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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:56 am

My ruling on whether Belisarius is a cuck: He's not a cuck, but he has terrible judgement in women, because he married a fucking sociopath. I wouldn't trust him as a wingman, or trust any woman he picks around children.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:56 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:My ruling on whether Belisarius is a cuck: He's not a cuck, but he has terrible judgement in women, because he married a fucking sociopath. I wouldn't trust him as a wingman, or trust any woman he picks around children.


Another victory in court for TEM.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:09 am

Aelex wrote:
Jelmatt wrote:
The rebellion in Les Mis was not the July Revolution. Pretantia has it right, Les Mis depicts the June Rebellion, which was a failed revolt against the monarchy which had been set up by the July Revolution.

Hum. My bad. This is still wrong, tho, as the painting is representing the Révolution of 1848, anyway.

I'm pretty sure that Delacroix's Liberty leading the people represents the 1830 revolution that overthrew Charles X. It was painted in part to remind Louis-Philippe of his promises upon the establishment of the July Monarchy, the failure to uphold which directly led to his overthrow in 1848.
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Postby Aelex » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:12 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:I'm pretty sure that Delacroix's Liberty leading the people represents the 1830 revolution that overthrew Charles X. It was painted in part to remind Louis-Philippe of his promises upon the establishment of the July Monarchy, the failure to uphold which directly led to his overthrow in 1848.

Ouf, I'm mingling everything indeed and you do are right. I'm way too fucking tired right now.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:15 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:My ruling on whether Belisarius is a cuck: He's not a cuck, but he has terrible judgement in women, because he married a fucking sociopath. I wouldn't trust him as a wingman, or trust any woman he picks around children.


UMN confirmed would let his wife fuck other men as long as she's the dominant one.
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:20 am

The East Marches II wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:My ruling on whether Belisarius is a cuck: He's not a cuck, but he has terrible judgement in women, because he married a fucking sociopath. I wouldn't trust him as a wingman, or trust any woman he picks around children.


Another victory in court for TEM.

We went to court? AND YOU FORGOT ME?!
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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:27 am

Luminesa wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Another victory in court for TEM.

We went to court? AND YOU FORGOT ME?!


Sorry Lumi, I will be sure to bring a guest pass for next time.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:27 am

Grand Britannia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:My ruling on whether Belisarius is a cuck: He's not a cuck, but he has terrible judgement in women, because he married a fucking sociopath. I wouldn't trust him as a wingman, or trust any woman he picks around children.


UMN confirmed would let his wife fuck other men as long as she's the dominant one.

No, I would divorce immediately. It would be stupid to even marry one like that in the first place.
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Postby Kekonistan » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:28 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:
LDT


>tfw Pinochet is a libertarian

Honestly, I can't complain. I do like the logical conclusion Hoppe finds.

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Postby Luminesa » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:29 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Luminesa wrote:We went to court? AND YOU FORGOT ME?!


Sorry Lumi, I will be sure to bring a guest pass for next time.

Yay!
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:34 am

Aelex wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:I'm pretty sure that Delacroix's Liberty leading the people represents the 1830 revolution that overthrew Charles X. It was painted in part to remind Louis-Philippe of his promises upon the establishment of the July Monarchy, the failure to uphold which directly led to his overthrow in 1848.

Ouf, I'm mingling everything indeed and you do are right. I'm way too fucking tired right now.

It happens to the best of us, monsieur.

Of course, realistically the vast majority of people who post here are basically liberal nationalists rather than real reactionaries, so you'd all be behind the barricades in the July Revolution along with the leftists. The only people who post regularly in this thread that I can see supporting Charles X against the usurper are myself, Dio and Bede.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:40 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Aelex wrote:Ouf, I'm mingling everything indeed and you do are right. I'm way too fucking tired right now.

It happens to the best of us, monsieur.

Of course, realistically the vast majority of people who post here are basically liberal nationalists rather than real reactionaries, so you'd all be behind the barricades in the July Revolution along with the leftists. The only people who post regularly in this thread that I can see supporting Charles X against the usurper are myself, Dio and Bede.

Eh, I might go for the reaction. I am, after all, a supporter of absolutism. Though, I may not be wholly behind inherited monarchy (or, at least, I think that it should be up to more than just inheritance)
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Postby Jelmatt » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:42 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Aelex wrote:Ouf, I'm mingling everything indeed and you do are right. I'm way too fucking tired right now.

It happens to the best of us, monsieur.

Of course, realistically the vast majority of people who post here are basically liberal nationalists rather than real reactionaries, so you'd all be behind the barricades in the July Revolution along with the leftists. The only people who post regularly in this thread that I can see supporting Charles X against the usurper are myself, Dio and Bede.


Yeah, but the difference is they'd probably be cool with Louis-Phillipe, and we'd be like "vive la république (démocratique et sociale)."

In all honesty though, I don't really mind ceremonial constitutional monarchies, so as long as we completely took power away from the King, he can still call himself King if he wants. That's fine.

(monarchie démocratique et sociale?)
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:42 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:It happens to the best of us, monsieur.

Of course, realistically the vast majority of people who post here are basically liberal nationalists rather than real reactionaries, so you'd all be behind the barricades in the July Revolution along with the leftists. The only people who post regularly in this thread that I can see supporting Charles X against the usurper are myself, Dio and Bede.

Eh, I might go for the reaction. I am, after all, a supporter of absolutism. Though, I may not be wholly behind inherited monarchy (or, at least, I think that it should be up to more than just inheritance)

You're not a Legitimist, in other words. Which means that Louis-Philippe's version of monarchy would likely appeal to you much more.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:43 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Eh, I might go for the reaction. I am, after all, a supporter of absolutism. Though, I may not be wholly behind inherited monarchy (or, at least, I think that it should be up to more than just inheritance)

You're not a Legitimist, in other words. Which means that Louis-Philippe's version of monarchy would likely appeal to you much more.

Why so?
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Postby Aelex » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:44 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:It happens to the best of us, monsieur.

Of course, realistically the vast majority of people who post here are basically liberal nationalists rather than real reactionaries, so you'd all be behind the barricades in the July Revolution along with the leftists. The only people who post regularly in this thread that I can see supporting Charles X against the usurper are myself, Dio and Bede.

Thanks. ;^)

And, well, I would personally have stayed at home as I would have saw neither Charles X "the """Beloved""" " de Bourbon nor Louis-Phillipe "the Bourgeois-King" d'Orléans as people worth to fight and die for.

Louis-Napoléon and the République, however, absolutely were.
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Postby Nekotani » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:49 am

Aelex wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:It happens to the best of us, monsieur.

Of course, realistically the vast majority of people who post here are basically liberal nationalists rather than real reactionaries, so you'd all be behind the barricades in the July Revolution along with the leftists. The only people who post regularly in this thread that I can see supporting Charles X against the usurper are myself, Dio and Bede.

Thanks. ;^)

And, well, I would personally have stayed at home as I would have saw neither Charles X "the """Beloved""" " de Bourbon nor Louis-Phillipe "the Bourgeois-King" d'Orléans as people worth to fight and die for.

Louis-Napoléon and the République, however, absolutely were.


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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:50 am

Nekotani wrote:
Aelex wrote:Thanks. ;^)

And, well, I would personally have stayed at home as I would have saw neither Charles X "the """Beloved""" " de Bourbon nor Louis-Phillipe "the Bourgeois-King" d'Orléans as people worth to fight and die for.

Louis-Napoléon and the République, however, absolutely were.


"There is only one Bonapartist, Neko - and he is mad!"

And there's only Bonaparte worth supporting, tbh.
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Postby The V O I D » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:54 am

My friend is a dirty monarchist that believes the US should submit to the UK's authority and become a dominion/colony once again.

How do I fix him?

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Postby Aelex » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:56 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:And there's only Bonaparte worth supporting, tbh.

Napoléon III, indeed, who was thrice the man his uncle was.
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Postby Nekotani » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:56 am

The V O I D wrote:My friend is a dirty monarchist that believes the US should submit to the UK's authority and become a dominion/colony once again.

How do I fix him?


You don't, you just laugh at his naivety.

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Postby Ban Pho » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:03 pm

Nekotani wrote:
The V O I D wrote:My friend is a dirty monarchist that believes the US should submit to the UK's authority and become a dominion/colony once again.

How do I fix him?


You don't, you just laugh at his naivety.

Do you have a doctors grade in anti-monarchism or something?

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:06 pm

Aelex wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:And there's only Bonaparte worth supporting, tbh.

Napoléon III, indeed, who was thrice the man his uncle was.

This is a joke, right?
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Postby Aelex » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:13 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:This is a joke, right?

No. I advise you to read on the man. His life was truly fascinating and it's without the slightest bit of sarcasm and irony that I can say that he did was thrice the man his uncle was.
Sure, he wasn't perfect (in fact, he was rather far from that) and his short-coming costed us dearly but that doesn't take away anything from what he did.

Napoléon I won for himself glory in the pages of history but left France in the most abject ruins while Napoléon III only got opprobrium on his name while he reconstructed France and lead her out of internal crisis that could have made her implode totally.
There is absolutely no doubt that Napoléon III was better than his uncle.
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