Right-Wing Discussion Thread VIII: McCarthy Was Right

[Napkiraly]

Also it'd lead the cops not getting discounts.

[Thermodolia]

Several liberal Christians would like to have a word with you.

Liberalism has severely decayed Church moral authority and has resulted in the break down of the family structure. The left is inhabited by many individuals that would love nothing more than see the extinction of Christianity.

Ok but you don't get to say that those who are liberal and Christian aren't taking their faith seriously

Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

If this is in America, it should be decided by the states. I'm against it because it turns women into a commodity. It also promotes adultery and leads to break downs in marriages and higher divorce rates.

Marriage is already doing that on its own

[Hakons]

Liberalism has severely decayed Church moral authority and has resulted in the break down of the family structure. The left is inhabited by many individuals that would love nothing more than see the extinction of Christianity.



If this is in America, it should be decided by the states. I'm against it because it turns women into a commodity. It also promotes adultery and leads to break downs in marriages and higher divorce rates.

Adultery is going to happen anyways, prostitution or not.

I must presume you have never checked your local Craigslist personal ads, have you?

Sins will always happen, but we must resist them at every turn.

[Thermodolia]

Why can't you? They're workers, they have the capacity do so, they have done so in the past. And cops will want to be careful if they go around bashing unionised workers.

If cops are going to surrender to unions, then Zombie Reagan will take the Presidency and fire all prostitute public servants.

Being in a union =/= public worker.

I work a Union job I've done it before. It's great it's hard work but it's great.

[Theodosios]

Liberalism has severely decayed Church moral authority and has resulted in the break down of the family structure. The left is inhabited by many individuals that would love nothing more than see the extinction of Christianity.

Ok but you don't get to say that those who are liberal and Christian aren't taking their faith seriously

Yes - we do.

[Great Minarchistan]

If cops are going to surrender to unions, then Zombie Reagan will take the Presidency and fire all prostitute public servants.

Being in a union =/= public worker.

I work a Union job I've done it before. It's great it's hard work but it's great.

Never implied that. Just said Zombie Reagan would fire all prostitute public servants in the strike.

[Lalaki]

Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

I'm not conservative, but I do think it should be legal. I actually live in Nevada -- the only state where prostitution is allowed (in smaller counties which allow it). There are a lot of stories of mothers being able to support their kids on the money they make in the industry. The only thing that needs to happen is extensive screening to make sure no one is forcibly trafficked into the business. There was a case many decades ago where folks were kidnapped from Oregon and given to a Storey County brothel. Luckily they were saved, but it goes to show the amount of monitoring that is required.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Adultery is going to happen anyways, prostitution or not.

I must presume you have never checked your local Craigslist personal ads, have you?

Sins will always happen, but we must resist them at every turn.

Humans are opportunistic. They will do things because it benefits them, not because it's right.

If someone is going to commit adultery, I don't think your traditional notions of Christianity are going to stop them. It didn't in the past, it certainly isn't going to happen now or in the future.

[Thermodolia]

Ok but you don't get to say that those who are liberal and Christian aren't taking their faith seriously

Yes - we do.

You can't tell anyone that they aren't taking their faith seriously. As faith is a personal matter, you can definitely disagree with them but you can't call them not serious about their faith.

[The East Marches II]

Sins will always happen, but we must resist them at every turn.

Humans are opportunistic. They will do things because it benefits them, not because it's right.

If someone is going to commit adultery, I don't think your traditional notions of Christianity are going to stop them. It didn't in the past, it certainly isn't going to happen now or in the future.

Then why bother with morality in general? It's a garbage argument to say "well they will do it anyway". Same could apply to murder yet we teach it is wrong.

[Salus Maior]

Ok but you don't get to say that those who are liberal and Christian aren't taking their faith seriously

If they're putting their politics before doctrine and what the faith has held to be true since the beginning, then forgive me for thinking that they don't take the faith seriously. Or at least put it more on the back burner than those that don't.

[Thermodolia]

Being in a union =/= public worker.

I work a Union job I've done it before. It's great it's hard work but it's great.

Never implied that. Just said Zombie Reagan would fire all prostitute public servants in the strike.

In order for that to work the government would have to hire them and nobody is going to that, well maybe Clinton would

[Thermodolia]

Sins will always happen, but we must resist them at every turn.

Humans are opportunistic. They will do things because it benefits them, not because it's right.

If someone is going to commit adultery, I don't think your traditional notions of Christianity are going to stop them. It didn't in the past, it certainly isn't going to happen now or in the future.

Well it definitely hasn't prevented people from being gay even though that's a no no

[Great Minarchistan]

Never implied that. Just said Zombie Reagan would fire all prostitute public servants in the strike.

In order for that to work the government would have to hire them and nobody is going to that, well maybe Clinton would

Then Zombie Reagan will buy all the prostitute private sector so he can fire them.

[Thermodolia]

Humans are opportunistic. They will do things because it benefits them, not because it's right.

If someone is going to commit adultery, I don't think your traditional notions of Christianity are going to stop them. It didn't in the past, it certainly isn't going to happen now or in the future.

Then why bother with morality in general? It's a garbage argument to say "well they will do it anyway". Same could apply to murder yet we teach it is wrong.

Well murder is illegal

[Thermodolia]

Ok but you don't get to say that those who are liberal and Christian aren't taking their faith seriously

If they're putting their politics before doctrine and what the faith has held to be true since the beginning, then forgive me for thinking that they don't take the faith seriously. Or at least put it more on the back burner than those that don't.

The same goes for those on the right side of politics as well. It's a two way street

[The East Marches II]

Humans are opportunistic. They will do things because it benefits them, not because it's right.

If someone is going to commit adultery, I don't think your traditional notions of Christianity are going to stop them. It didn't in the past, it certainly isn't going to happen now or in the future.

Well it definitely hasn't prevented people from being gay even though that's a no no

It used to prevent them from acting on such urges or at the least suppressing it from public view. Just look at the number of Victorian writers who were thought gay but didn't have relationships for fear of fallout.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Humans are opportunistic. They will do things because it benefits them, not because it's right.

If someone is going to commit adultery, I don't think your traditional notions of Christianity are going to stop them. It didn't in the past, it certainly isn't going to happen now or in the future.

Then why bother with morality in general? It's a garbage argument to say "well they will do it anyway". Same could apply to murder yet we teach it is wrong.

It's also a garbage argument to say "if we allow prostitution, adultery is going to be promoted".

It's going to happen anyways whether you allow prostitution or not. Heck, it happens all over the U.S. everyday and nobody bats an eye right now.

So why should I believe that your moralistic approach to prostitution is going to stop adultery?

[The East Marches II]

Then why bother with morality in general? It's a garbage argument to say "well they will do it anyway". Same could apply to murder yet we teach it is wrong.

Well murder is illegal

So used to be homosexuality and also prostitution still is.

[Thermodolia]

Well it definitely hasn't prevented people from being gay even though that's a no no

It used to prevent them from acting on such urges or at the least suppressing it from public view. Just look at the number of Victorian writers who were thought gay but didn't have relationships for fear of fallout.

Suppression isn't going to make prostitution go away. In fact it will do the exact opposite

[Thermodolia]

Well murder is illegal

So used to be homosexuality and also prostitution still is.

Only in 49 states

[Bakery Hill]

Also it'd lead the cops not getting discounts.

Cops expecting discounts is so fucking stupid.

[The East Marches II]

Then why bother with morality in general? It's a garbage argument to say "well they will do it anyway". Same could apply to murder yet we teach it is wrong.

It's also a garbage argument to say "if we allow prostitution, adultery is going to be promoted".

It's going to happen anyways whether you allow prostitution or not. Heck, it happens all over the U.S. everyday and nobody bats an eye right now.

So why should I believe that your moralistic approach to prostitution is going to stop adultery?

Indoctrination of young kids with beliefs is proven to work? Murder happens all the time too yet we still aggressively prosecute and moralize against it. Just because something tends to happen does not make the fight against it pointless. It's crypto-nihilist position I've seen you take more than once.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It used to prevent them from acting on such urges or at the least suppressing it from public view. Just look at the number of Victorian writers who were thought gay but didn't have relationships for fear of fallout.

Suppression isn't going to make prostitution go away. In fact it will do the exact opposite

The Victorian Era was certainly a rampant time for underground prostitution, contrary to the beliefs of people who think the Victorians were sexually repressed.

[The East Marches II]

It used to prevent them from acting on such urges or at the least suppressing it from public view. Just look at the number of Victorian writers who were thought gay but didn't have relationships for fear of fallout.

Suppression isn't going to make prostitution go away. In fact it will do the exact opposite

It indeed has limited its spread. Just as the severe repression of gays has and in some places in the ME still does. Whether or not it has any utility or gives a benefit is another argument entirely.