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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:06 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If your dark humor is devoid of wit, it usually isn't funny. This is a good example of dark humor done well: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Africa#Pro_and_Cons

It's gotta be witty. Comedy devoid of wit is as bad as children's comedy, or the Big Bang Theory.

I fucking love it.
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Postby Venerable Bede » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:06 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Venerable Bede wrote:Funny in the sense that people sometimes laugh at cringey things because someone being extremely edgy is embarrassing.

Tell a violent enough joke, and it becomes funny.

No, it doesn't.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:06 pm

Venerable Bede wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Tell a violent enough joke, and it becomes funny.

No, it doesn't.

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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:07 pm

The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what's the trashiest right-wing ideology that isn't the alt-right?


Neo-conservatism or what have you.

Venerable Bede wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Yeah I did not much like that bit either because it has some modern relevance as a touchy subject, but I do think it was just attempting to make it go even more absurd or possibly refer to how little the western world cares about African lives in general comparatively. I agree that it goes a bit beyond where the bantz should be taken, but I don't suspect any foul play either.

I don't think there was any intent to mock the lack of compassion in the West, I don't think it had anything to do with that.

Muh edgy jokes discussion thread is not this one.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:08 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what's the trashiest right-wing ideology that isn't the alt-right?

I can't decide... Evola's nonsense? Ayn Rand's nonsense? National Anarchism? Propertarianism? "Creativity"?


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Grand Britannia wrote:
The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what's the trashiest right-wing ideology that isn't the alt-right?


Neo-conservatism or what have you.


Interesting choice.

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:12 pm

Venerable Bede wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
I think you fail to realise that what you find to be bad could be great to another. Perhaps you've heard the quote:

"One man's trash is another man's treasure."

I believe it can be applied to this scenario.

Just because you say something is good, doesn't make it good. It just means you enjoy it. You could enjoy heroin, that doesn't make it good, heroin is in fact very bad.


I suppose so. I'll concede the point.

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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:12 pm

The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what's the trashiest right-wing ideology that isn't the alt-right?

>implying the alt-right is trash
fucking normie

anyways, probably neoconservatism or "national anarchism."
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:>swedish
>conservatism

Islamic nations tend to be right wing.

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Postby Conscentia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:14 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If your dark humor is devoid of wit, it usually isn't funny. This is a good example of dark humor done well: [...]

It's gotta be witty. Comedy devoid of wit is as bad as children's comedy, or the Big Bang Theory.

Isn't linking to Uncyclopedia an abomination unto the mods?
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Postby Oil exporting People » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:16 pm

The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what's the trashiest right-wing ideology that isn't the alt-right?


Probably the "Moderate" factions that emerged in the late 20th and early 21st Century in such forms as Neo-Conservatism (I'd include Neo-Liberalism in this) and the modern One Nation form over in the UK.
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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:16 pm

The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what's the trashiest right-wing ideology that isn't the alt-right?


Tempted to say Swedish conservatism or Merkelism, but if trashy is the norm then probably de-facto African Fascism.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:18 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what's the trashiest right-wing ideology that isn't the alt-right?


Tempted to say Swedish conservatism or Merkelism, but if trashy is the norm then probably de-facto African Fascism.

>swedish
>conservatism
>merkel
>conservative
stop
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:>swedish
>conservatism

Islamic nations tend to be right wing.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:20 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Tempted to say Swedish conservatism or Merkelism, but if trashy is the norm then probably de-facto African Fascism.

>swedish
>conservatism

Islamic nations tend to be right wing.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:20 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:>swedish
>conservatism

Islamic nations tend to be right wing.

This is the best comment I've seen in a while. That's going in my quote collection.
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:>swedish
>conservatism

Islamic nations tend to be right wing.

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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:22 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:>swedish
>conservatism

Islamic nations tend to be right wing.


Yeah, and I mean you could probably throw in Sudan with de-facto African Fascism. But yes, traditional conservative Islamism is pretty terrible and backwards.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:23 pm

Conscentia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If your dark humor is devoid of wit, it usually isn't funny. This is a good example of dark humor done well: [...]

It's gotta be witty. Comedy devoid of wit is as bad as children's comedy, or the Big Bang Theory.

Isn't linking to Uncyclopedia an abomination unto the mods?

You're thinking of Encyclopedia Dramatica, I am pretty sure.
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Postby Philjia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:23 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Tempted to say Swedish conservatism or Merkelism, but if trashy is the norm then probably de-facto African Fascism.

>swedish
>conservatism
>merkel
>conservative
stop


The CDU is centre right.

Sweden's government is broadly centrist to centre left, but the Moderate Party is still generally conservative.
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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:23 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Tempted to say Swedish conservatism or Merkelism, but if trashy is the norm then probably de-facto African Fascism.


On point with this.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:25 pm

Philjia wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:>swedish
>conservatism
>merkel
>conservative
stop


The CDU is centre right.

Sweden's government is broadly centrist to centre left, but the Moderate Party is still generally conservative.

"center-right" in Europe, from what I've gathered, seems to just mean neoliberal.
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:>swedish
>conservatism

Islamic nations tend to be right wing.

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Postby Conscentia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:26 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Isn't linking to Uncyclopedia an abomination unto the mods?

You're thinking of Encyclopedia Dramatica, I am pretty sure.

Yep. I misremembered.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:27 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what's the trashiest right-wing ideology that isn't the alt-right?

>implying the alt-right is trash
fucking normie

anyways, probably neoconservatism or "national anarchism."

The aut-right is trash because it is basically liberals LARPing as right-wingers, for the most part. They don't embrace traditional thought, they are often supportive of things like LGBT movements purely for reasons of opposing Islam, they often attack traditional morality for not being modern enough (i.e. not being nationalistic or racist), and they are oftentimes supportive of liberal economics.
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Postby Philjia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:28 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
Philjia wrote:
The CDU is centre right.

Sweden's government is broadly centrist to centre left, but the Moderate Party is still generally conservative.

"center-right" in Europe, from what I've gathered, seems to just mean neoliberal.


This is because neoliberalism is centre right.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:29 pm

The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what's the trashiest right-wing ideology that isn't the alt-right?

Monarchism.

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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:34 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:>implying the alt-right is trash
fucking normie

anyways, probably neoconservatism or "national anarchism."

The aut-right is trash because it is basically liberals LARPing as right-wingers, for the most part. They don't embrace traditional thought, they are often supportive of things like LGBT movements purely for reasons of opposing Islam, they often attack traditional morality for not being modern enough (i.e. not being nationalistic or racist), and they are oftentimes supportive of liberal economics.

nobody in the movement does that lol

Most people in the alt-right don't support gay marriage, or are moderate, many admire Evola and traditionalism (such as myself) and almost no one attacks morality for not being "modern enough."
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:>swedish
>conservatism

Islamic nations tend to be right wing.

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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:41 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The aut-right is trash because it is basically liberals LARPing as right-wingers, for the most part. They don't embrace traditional thought, they are often supportive of things like LGBT movements purely for reasons of opposing Islam, they often attack traditional morality for not being modern enough (i.e. not being nationalistic or racist), and they are oftentimes supportive of liberal economics.

nobody in the movement does that lol

Most people in the alt-right don't support gay marriage, or are moderate, many admire Evola and traditionalism (such as myself) and almost no one attacks morality for not being "modern enough."

Then why do so many attack Christianity for essentially being a universal religion? And why do so many only support anti-Islamist policies to further "European" (read: liberal) policies?
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Even the apologists of industrialism have been obliged to admit that some economic evils follow in the wake of the machines. These are such as overproduction, unemployment, and a growing inequality in the distribution of wealth. But the remedies proposed by the apologists are always homeopathic. They expect the evils to disappear when we have bigger and better machines, and more of them. Their remedial programs, therefore, look forward to more industrialism.
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