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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:36 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Gondolaulus wrote:Define backward believe. And in essence, that is not multiculturalism.

Once one culture outforces another, there is no multiculturalism. There is cultural domination.


>Backwards Beliefs

Its ok to send children over minefields :^)

You know who never sent children over minefields?
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Postby The East Marches » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:37 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
>Backwards Beliefs

Its ok to send children over minefields :^)

You know who never sent children over minefields?
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Yes and that is why he was a much better choice than the Ayatollahs.
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Postby Aelex » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:56 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:You know who never sent children over minefields?

Removing the Shah was a total mistake. Worst is, the West still hasn't learnt three decades or so later that toppling secular dictators to replace them with Islamic """"""Republic"""""" ain't the best idea ever.
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Postby Nekoyama » Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:59 pm

Ban Pho wrote:What is your opinion on multiculturalism, RWDT?


Strongly opposed to it, people should adhere to the culture of the region they're staying in.
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Is "spook" coming to mean "heresy" in freethinkerese?


Is "freethinker" coming to be your go-to word for things you don't like?

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:00 pm

Nekoyama wrote:
Ban Pho wrote:What is your opinion on multiculturalism, RWDT?


Strongly opposed to it, people should adhere to the culture of the region they're staying in.
Venerable Bede wrote:Is "spook" coming to mean "heresy" in freethinkerese?


Is "freethinker" coming to be your go-to word for things you don't like?


It tells us much about the person in particular, methinks.
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Postby The V O I D » Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:25 pm

RWDT, what are your thoughts on Snowden? Also, speaking of Snowden; what do you think constitutes treason? Do you think Snowden is a hero or a traitor?

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Postby Mattopilos II » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:07 pm

Ban Pho wrote:What is your opinion on multiculturalism, RWDT?


Not opposed to it, but it really depends on how they try and implement it. It can be implemented very poorly, or quite well.
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Postby Mikelheim » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:19 pm

The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what are your thoughts on Snowden? Also, speaking of Snowden; what do you think constitutes treason? Do you think Snowden is a hero or a traitor?

Hero, just like the rest of the whistleblowers.
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Postby The V O I D » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:21 pm

Mikelheim wrote:
The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what are your thoughts on Snowden? Also, speaking of Snowden; what do you think constitutes treason? Do you think Snowden is a hero or a traitor?

Hero, just like the rest of the whistleblowers.


And as to my other questions?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:00 pm

The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what are your thoughts on Snowden? Also, speaking of Snowden; what do you think constitutes treason? Do you think Snowden is a hero or a traitor?

Should never have run. Wasn't a traitor until he took up a job as Putin's token Westerner.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:55 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what are your thoughts on Snowden? Also, speaking of Snowden; what do you think constitutes treason? Do you think Snowden is a hero or a traitor?

Should never have run. Wasn't a traitor until he took up a job as Putin's token Westerner.


He hasn't said anything. Russians would have either killed him, or turned him over already.

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Postby Crnobrnje » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:02 pm

The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what are your thoughts on Snowden? Also, speaking of Snowden; what do you think constitutes treason? Do you think Snowden is a hero or a traitor?

Traitor.
Conserative Morality wrote:
The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what are your thoughts on Snowden? Also, speaking of Snowden; what do you think constitutes treason? Do you think Snowden is a hero or a traitor?

Should never have run. Wasn't a traitor until he took up a job as Putin's token Westerner.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:06 pm

Crnobrnje wrote:Traitor.


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Postby Venerable Bede » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:46 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Venerable Bede wrote:Is "spook" coming to mean "heresy" in freethinkerese?

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If it did mean "heresy", then "spook" itself would've become a spook.

A spook is a heresy against orthodox egoism. Heretic egoism is that subject to spooks.
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Postby Venerable Bede » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:50 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Venerable Bede wrote:/his/ and /lit/ are truly much more advanced than NSG is. /pol/ is another story, though


/his/ and /int/ you mean. /lit/ is 110% pure cancer and nothing good has ever come out of it.

/his/ came out of it. That's where weaker philosophy like legit trolley goes. /his/ is partially a containment board to keep plebs off /lit/.
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A sacrifice to God is a brokenspirit; a broken and humbled heart God will not despise. (Psalm 50:19--Orthodox, Protestant 51:19)
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. (2 Corinthians 7:10)
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Postby Venerable Bede » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:55 pm

Nekoyama wrote:
Venerable Bede wrote:Is "spook" coming to mean "heresy" in freethinkerese?


Is "freethinker" coming to be your go-to word for things you don't like?

Yes, lima beans are freethinkers.
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A sacrifice to God is a brokenspirit; a broken and humbled heart God will not despise. (Psalm 50:19--Orthodox, Protestant 51:19)
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. (2 Corinthians 7:10)
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Postby The East Marches » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:55 pm

Venerable Bede wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
/his/ and /int/ you mean. /lit/ is 110% pure cancer and nothing good has ever come out of it.

/his/ came out of it. That's where weaker philosophy like legit trolley goes. /his/ is partially a containment board to keep plebs off /lit/.


This explains why you and I don't get along. You go to one of the objectively worst and most pleby boards on all of 4chan. GG no re, enjoy hanging with Conserative Morality. Real right wing boards like /his/, /int/ or /k/ are the only worthwhile places for good discussion. For instance, /int/ has the best place for studying international relations.
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Postby Mattopilos II » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:51 pm

Venerable Bede wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
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If it did mean "heresy", then "spook" itself would've become a spook.

A spook is a heresy against orthodox egoism. Heretic egoism is that subject to spooks.


All egoists don't even subscribe to the idea of spooks.
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Postby Austrasien » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:58 pm

Ban Pho wrote:What is your opinion on multiculturalism, RWDT?


Neutral as a means. Certain benefits but also drawbacks.

Terrible as an ends. Operationalization of a nations death drive.
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Postby Nekoyama » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:00 pm

Mattopilos II wrote:
Venerable Bede wrote:A spook is a heresy against orthodox egoism. Heretic egoism is that subject to spooks.


All egoists don't even subscribe to the idea of spooks.


"Spook" also assumes everyone accepts nominalism.

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What Multiculturism?

Postby Grand Sovereign League » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:09 pm

It boggles my mind that multiculturism is still referenced and discussed in terms of civilisations. The entire world and all of its races and ethnicities (even those that vehemently flaunt their social and religious minutia as distinct) willing and joyously emulate Western Europe and North America (read... The US) to a degree that is fast approaching global uniformity. People easily forget that most problems and friction between "cultures" are the result of Europeans introducing technology and mercantile/industrial economics to functionally neolithic and medieval populations in the now-called developing world. They have had no chance to adapt , unlike the Europeans who, through gradual development of nearly all major world contributions, created the artificially stable and safe environments that allowed liberalism to be born. Basically non-western peoples don't jive with openess and equality and pacifism and gays and feminism because they find such things absurd, again do to the fact that this whole modern urban life thing came out of nowhere and they are barely, just barely adjusting as we speak. And adjusting like a 2yr old to a sippy-cup mind you.

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Postby The Greater Aryan Race » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:16 pm

Ban Pho wrote:What is your opinion on multiculturalism, RWDT?

It can work, with extensive laws to regulate communitarian relations and provided all ethnic groups remain loyal members to the State.

The V O I D wrote:RWDT, what are your thoughts on Snowden? Also, speaking of Snowden; what do you think constitutes treason? Do you think Snowden is a hero or a traitor?

Traitor. Should he somehow be returned to the United States, he should be punished in a court of law and receive the full penalty for treason.

What constitutes treason you say? Fleeing your country and consorting with foreign powers by disclosing sensitive information to them, amongst other things. Of course, numerous other acts constitute treason and Snowden's conduct is but one example.
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Postby Mattopilos II » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:21 pm

Nekoyama wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
All egoists don't even subscribe to the idea of spooks.


"Spook" also assumes everyone accepts nominalism.


I.e. concrete and abstract? Eh, I see value in such a concept insofar it helps one compartmentalize their thoughts and conclusions.
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Postby New Vaden » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:27 pm

My personal opinion on multiculturalism varies. If, like Stalin, or Tamerlane, or Attila, you're willing to kill and terrify everyone who so much as raises an eyebrow at any decision you make, a multicultural empire can work. Or you can assimilate minorities. Only two ways that work long-term.

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Postby Grand Sovereign League » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:33 pm

The Greater Aryan Race wrote:
Ban Pho wrote:What is your opinion on multiculturalism, RWDT?

It can work, with extensive laws to regulate communitarian relations and provided all ethnic groups remain loyal members to the State.

I must disagree. Regulating communitarian relations only gives validation to other cultures by acknowledging their right to exist. I am not advocating ethnic cleansing or anything violent, but until a nations government openly and actively endorses western culture as superior as well as identifying it's french, English, germanic, greco-roman origins as the source of all modern things we enjoy. Loyalty to the state only occurs when there is a dominant culture of patriotism and societal homogenity. My reason for advocating a denial of validity and an outright denounciation of non-western culture (save for some bits of east asian culture) is for the very fact that due to their stark primitiveness, all developing-world cultures are in direct conflict with all notions of western societal norms. The enjoy the fruits of European culture while constantly making accusations of european decadence or depravity. We must place European history and culture upon a pillar miles above all others. It is that simple.

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