Right-Wing Discussion Thread VIII: McCarthy Was Right

[Conscentia]

Anyone think it's time for a new poll? If so, what do you suggest?

It might be interesting to ask the denizens of the RWDT to select their favourite significant left-wing figures/leaders.

Might be difficult narrowing a list down to nine, assuming the tenth is reserved for "Other".

The idea for rotating polls has some support on the LWDT. I could run an equivalent poll over there simultaneously if people like the idea.

[Benuty]

Hence my mention of toying with forces beyond our understanding. It could for all we know cause the internet equivalent of a black hole (by virtue of a flame war of course).

Oh my. That's something I'd rather avoid seeing reappear.

Of course it is merely a hypothetical though, and for all we know nothing of the sort could happen. On a more positive note OT's suggestion is actually different from the trend that was here before I took a break from NSG (just a little break).

[Conscentia]

No. How about not dredging stuff up from pages ago and spamming the thread with your replies?

I disagree it must be done in order to make NSG great again.

Not really up to you. IIRC, the mods don't like it when a single user spams a thread with their replies.

[The V O I D]

1. Because that isn't how it works. Paying someone to violate their own bodily sovereignty and paying someone to help someone else live is completely different.

3. Yeah, except it's the other way around; their body is incompatible with their mind, and the only way to treat this according to every reputable source is sex change surgery.

4. Sure, but at the same time, I don't endorse suicide or self harm (what I consider self harm, not what you consider self harm).

5. That's an unrealistic scenario, and even if it did happen, unfortunately that means the infant or disabled person will die because no one cared for them. Not a new concept - it happens to homeless people and others in society. It happens; people go uncared for and end up dying.

1) Do not people in both scenarios have the right to refuse, if we believe in absolute bodily sovereignty/

3) The mind is a part of the body, not the body part of the mind. It is the body as a whole which makes them a person. What you suggest would make a brain in a vat a person. It is not, it is merely a brain in a vat, it is no more a person than a corpse on life-support is.

5) So, you accept then that bodily sovereignty gives us the right to refuse to help or support others, correct?

1. The difference is one compels someone to violate their own sovereignty while the other compels someone to ask if someone else would like assistance or not.

3. If the brain is still alive and capable of thought, and if we found a way to let it communicate and see/hear, then yes. It is just as human as you or me. Transgender people are the gender they identify as, and when they get corrective surgery, they are the sex they identify as.

5. I don't have to give you my kidney if you're dying of kidney failure. Yes.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

Oh my. That's something I'd rather avoid seeing reappear.

Of course it is merely a hypothetical though, and for all we know nothing of the sort could happen. On a more positive note OT's suggestion is actually different from the trend that was here before I took a break from NSG (just a little break).

I vaguely remember that trend. Not sure if we had to choose Hitler from a poll once though.

[Benuty]

I disagree it must be done in order to make NSG great again.

Not really up to you. IIRC, the mods don't like it when a single user spams a thread with their replies.

Oh it isn't just this thread I am afraid. All will be purged in good time, but for now I don't see why anyone should take offense at obvious punishment for VOID's generalization.

I mean to beat generalizations I must become them by out generalizing VOID (in a twisted illogical manner). I do have a title to uphold to be fair though.

[Benuty]

Of course it is merely a hypothetical though, and for all we know nothing of the sort could happen. On a more positive note OT's suggestion is actually different from the trend that was here before I took a break from NSG (just a little break).

I vaguely remember that trend. Not sure if we had to choose Hitler from a poll once though.

If I recall Hitler was in plenty of threads. Of course with the media accusing everything around the election of "being literally hitler" we didn't really have a choice, but to use them,

[Old Tyrannia]

As an aside, yesterday was the 224th anniversary of the regicide of Louis XVI, King of France and Navarre. We've debated the topic of the French Revolution and Louis XVI's fate here before, but at the risk of furthering my apparently well-entrenched reputation as a sycophant for any and all monarchs I wanted to use this opportunity to remind the thread that Louis XVI did absolutely nothing wrong.

Well, actually, he did plenty of things wrong; but only in the sense that his actions were unwise. He never did anything that was wrong morally or, indeed, legally. May he rest in piece.

[Benuty]

As an aside, yesterday was the 224th anniversary of the regicide of Louis XVI, King of France and Navarre. We've debated the topic of the French Revolution and Louis XVI's fate here before, but at the risk of furthering my apparently well-entrenched reputation as a sycophant for any and all monarchs I wanted to use this opportunity to remind the thread that Louis XVI did absolutely nothing wrong.

Well, actually, he did plenty of things wrong; but only in the sense that his actions were unwise. He never did anything that was wrong morally or, indeed, legally. May he rest in piece.

It is a very good thing you added that last part or else the defenders of the revolution might have charged at you blindly.

[Targovia]

Anyone think it's time for a new poll? If so, what do you suggest?

Perhaps: Best Ruler in the world. Caesar Charlemagne, etc.

[Benuty]

Anyone think it's time for a new poll? If so, what do you suggest?

Perhaps: Best Ruler in the world. Caesar Charlemagne, etc.

So many to choose from, and not enough poll spaces. Shame we can't purchase them like we can with tg inbox amounts. Would make for some very interesting polls.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

I vaguely remember that trend. Not sure if we had to choose Hitler from a poll once though.

If I recall Hitler was in plenty of threads. Of course with the media accusing everything around the election of "being literally hitler" we didn't really have a choice, but to use them,

Alas. It truly was an apocalyptic time. I still can't quite shake the feeling that the notion of a President Trump is a delusion to be held permanently in delay. But then again I identified very strongly with President Obama.

As an aside, yesterday was the 224th anniversary of the regicide of Louis XVI, King of France and Navarre. We've debated the topic of the French Revolution and Louis XVI's fate here before, but at the risk of furthering my apparently well-entrenched reputation as a sycophant for any and all monarchs I wanted to use this opportunity to remind the thread that Louis XVI did absolutely nothing wrong.

Well, actually, he did plenty of things wrong; but only in the sense that his actions were unwise. He never did anything that was wrong morally or, indeed, legally. May he rest in piece.

Two pieces, actually.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Anyone think it's time for a new poll? If so, what do you suggest?

It might be interesting to ask the denizens of the RWDT to select their favourite significant left-wing figures/leaders.

Ten bucks says UMN's is Bernie Sanders.

As an aside, yesterday was the 224th anniversary of the regicide of Louis XVI, King of France and Navarre. We've debated the topic of the French Revolution and Louis XVI's fate here before, but at the risk of furthering my apparently well-entrenched reputation as a sycophant for any and all monarchs I wanted to use this opportunity to remind the thread that Louis XVI did absolutely nothing wrong.

Well, actually, he did plenty of things wrong; but only in the sense that his actions were unwise. He never did anything that was wrong morally or, indeed, legally. May he rest in piece.

Viva le revolution

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

It might be interesting to ask the denizens of the RWDT to select their favourite significant left-wing figures/leaders.

Ten bucks says UMN's is Bernie Sanders.

As an aside, yesterday was the 224th anniversary of the regicide of Louis XVI, King of France and Navarre. We've debated the topic of the French Revolution and Louis XVI's fate here before, but at the risk of furthering my apparently well-entrenched reputation as a sycophant for any and all monarchs I wanted to use this opportunity to remind the thread that Louis XVI did absolutely nothing wrong.

Well, actually, he did plenty of things wrong; but only in the sense that his actions were unwise. He never did anything that was wrong morally or, indeed, legally. May he rest in piece.

Viva le revolution

Fifty says it's Sorel.

[Benuty]

If I recall Hitler was in plenty of threads. Of course with the media accusing everything around the election of "being literally hitler" we didn't really have a choice, but to use them,

Alas. It truly was an apocalyptic time. I still can't quite shake the feeling that the notion of a President Trump is a delusion to be held permanently in delay. But then again I identified very strongly with President Obama.

As an aside, yesterday was the 224th anniversary of the regicide of Louis XVI, King of France and Navarre. We've debated the topic of the French Revolution and Louis XVI's fate here before, but at the risk of furthering my apparently well-entrenched reputation as a sycophant for any and all monarchs I wanted to use this opportunity to remind the thread that Louis XVI did absolutely nothing wrong.

Well, actually, he did plenty of things wrong; but only in the sense that his actions were unwise. He never did anything that was wrong morally or, indeed, legally. May he rest in piece.

Two pieces, actually.

Maybe all of us are in a giant lotus eater machine?

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

Alas. It truly was an apocalyptic time. I still can't quite shake the feeling that the notion of a President Trump is a delusion to be held permanently in delay. But then again I identified very strongly with President Obama.

Two pieces, actually.

Maybe all of us are in a giant lotus eater machine?

Can't shake that possibility.

[Benuty]

It might be interesting to ask the denizens of the RWDT to select their favourite significant left-wing figures/leaders.

Ten bucks says UMN's is Bernie Sanders.

As an aside, yesterday was the 224th anniversary of the regicide of Louis XVI, King of France and Navarre. We've debated the topic of the French Revolution and Louis XVI's fate here before, but at the risk of furthering my apparently well-entrenched reputation as a sycophant for any and all monarchs I wanted to use this opportunity to remind the thread that Louis XVI did absolutely nothing wrong.

Well, actually, he did plenty of things wrong; but only in the sense that his actions were unwise. He never did anything that was wrong morally or, indeed, legally. May he rest in piece.

Viva le revolution

Rip Pretantia.

[Sanctissima]

As an aside, yesterday was the 224th anniversary of the regicide of Louis XVI, King of France and Navarre. We've debated the topic of the French Revolution and Louis XVI's fate here before, but at the risk of furthering my apparently well-entrenched reputation as a sycophant for any and all monarchs I wanted to use this opportunity to remind the thread that Louis XVI did absolutely nothing wrong.

Well, actually, he did plenty of things wrong; but only in the sense that his actions were unwise. He never did anything that was wrong morally or, indeed, legally. May he rest in piece.

Monarchist scum! To the guillotine with him!

But seriously, Louis was an idiot. France needed a monarch who would fix the kingdom economically and lower its debt. Instead it got a half-wit who stupidly got France involved in another nation's war and fired the few ministers who might have actually maintained some semblance of order. Nevermind summoning the Estates-General, that never ends well.

[Old Tyrannia]

As an aside, yesterday was the 224th anniversary of the regicide of Louis XVI, King of France and Navarre. We've debated the topic of the French Revolution and Louis XVI's fate here before, but at the risk of furthering my apparently well-entrenched reputation as a sycophant for any and all monarchs I wanted to use this opportunity to remind the thread that Louis XVI did absolutely nothing wrong.

Well, actually, he did plenty of things wrong; but only in the sense that his actions were unwise. He never did anything that was wrong morally or, indeed, legally. May he rest in piece.

Viva le revolution

I hate to break it you but as it turns out, "living long" was not among the Revolution's accomplishments. Depending on your point of view, it lasted for between 15 and 25 years. Meanwhile the Ancien Régime, for all its flaws, lasted for around 2-3 centuries. France, like middle aged man in the grips of a mid-life identity crisis, has been reinventing itself every few decades ever since, although she probably would have settled on a form of constitutional monarchy if not for the "principle before common sense" attitude displayed by the likes of Charles X and Henri, comte de Chambord.

[Engleberg]

#WilhelmIIDidNothingWrong

(While you're talking about monarchies that were wrongfully dissolved)

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

#WilhelmIIDidNothingWrong

(While you're talking about monarchies that were wrongfully dissolved)

Then who exactly gave the country over into the hands of incompetent generals who were out of their competency zone? Because from my viewpoint, Hindenburg and Ludendorff were the idiots that fucked up the efforts to keep people supplied with food and stuff during the blockade- even if they couldn't get some of the stuff the Brits were keeping out surely they could have done better on the home front than they did.

[Sanctissima]

#WilhelmIIDidNothingWrong

(While you're talking about monarchies that were wrongfully dissolved)

If Willie didn't try so hard to overcompensate there would still be a German Empire.

I mean, you know you've got issues when most of your extended family mocks you behind your back.

Food for thought.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

Viva le revolution

I hate to break it you but as it turns out, "living long" was not among the Revolution's accomplishments. Depending on your point of view, it lasted for between 15 and 25 years. Meanwhile the Ancien Régime, for all its flaws, lasted for around 2-3 centuries. France, like middle aged man in the grips of a mid-life identity crisis, has been reinventing itself every few decades ever since, although she probably would have settled on a form of constitutional monarchy if not for the "principle before common sense" attitude displayed by the likes of Charles X and Henri, comte de Chambord.

It's a revolution. It can't last forever, it'll burn out the fuel it runs on and come to a stop like a gas guzzler from the fifties.

[Sanctissima]

#WilhelmIIDidNothingWrong

(While you're talking about monarchies that were wrongfully dissolved)

Then who exactly gave the country over into the hands of incompetent generals who were out of their competency zone? Because from my viewpoint, Hindenburg and Ludendorff were the idiots that fucked up the efforts to keep people supplied with food and stuff during the blockade- even if they couldn't get some of the stuff the Brits were keeping out surely they could have done better on the home front than they did.

Say what you will about Willie, but Hindenburg and Ludendorff kicked ass on the Eastern Front.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

Then who exactly gave the country over into the hands of incompetent generals who were out of their competency zone? Because from my viewpoint, Hindenburg and Ludendorff were the idiots that fucked up the efforts to keep people supplied with food and stuff during the blockade- even if they couldn't get some of the stuff the Brits were keeping out surely they could have done better on the home front than they did.

Say what you will about Willie, but Hindenburg and Ludendorff kicked ass on the Eastern Front.

Yeah, and that's about all they were good at.
I stand by my position that letting them effectively run the country was a bad idea. It ruined things to the point that the Revolution happened.