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Which state in the USA could survive alone the best?

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Postby Ixzara » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:43 pm

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Ixzara wrote:Here's a proposal to my American friends, Mexico will take troublesome Texas off your hands, as long as we get to deport George "Dubya" Bush to the US.

Do we have a deal?

Idk, I think we're getting the raw end of the deal here....


Still there is much potential here. I think a mutually beneficial agreement could still be worked out. Would Mexico be willing instead to take Texas off our hands and arrest Bush and send him off to Hague to face a war crimes tribunal?


DONE!!!! As an add on to the agreement let us both agree that California blows which is why Chicago is so windy....
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Postby Vandengaarde » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:48 pm

I have a new question to pose. Which state do you find most likely to secede? And what are their chances of surviving long if they were to isolate themselves?
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Postby Ixzara » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:53 pm

Vandengaarde wrote:I have a new question to pose. Which state do you find most likely to secede? And what are their chances of surviving long if they were to isolate themselves?


Texas without a doubt. Texas is primarily self-sufficient, from what I saw the last time I went like 5 years ago. However Isolating themselves would be suicide since I think Texas accounts for a huge amount of American exports.
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Frisivisia wrote:Fact, the best President in history was white. Fact, that proves white people are better at being president. Duh.

But since we all came from Africa, it's a known fact that the best president is an African.
So we need a white African. And we have Obama! Har har har har.


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Postby Alsatian Knights » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:55 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Britain. Oh sorry I keep forgetting that's not a state. :p

Defo Utah.

This, they're pretty much unified over there, and can work towards a common goal, don't tolerate crime, good education, rich to poor gap is absolutely amazing, only down side is they have to spend millions to irrigate the place.
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Postby Free Kanadian Refugees » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:00 pm

Vandengaarde wrote:I have a new question to pose. Which state do you find most likely to secede? And what are their chances of surviving long if they were to isolate themselves?

Texas, then they'd get annexed by Mexico, then re-annexed by the USA.
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Postby JuNii » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:02 pm

Vandengaarde wrote:Which state do you think could last the longest using its own industrial power, funding, and land?

One of my guesses would be Washington state, because they are connected to the ocean, do fairly well in times of economic trouble, and have good business and education.

I would say the least likely is California, as they go bankrupt quite a bit, have terrible education, and their oceans wouldn't supply much food.


Remember, this is if they COULDN'T get funding from outside land. This is a secession scenario, assuming the U.S. or someone else didn't stop the secession.

HAWAII was surviving on it's own long before it became a territory...

now... we probably will have a rough patch as we have to rebuild our agriculture... but if trade is still allowed... we might still survive.
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Postby Ixzara » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:07 pm

Free Kanadian Refugees wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I have a new question to pose. Which state do you find most likely to secede? And what are their chances of surviving long if they were to isolate themselves?

Texas, then they'd get annexed by Mexico, then re-annexed by the USA.


What I find funny and ironic about Texas is that they declared independence from Mexico in 1836 and then strove for 9 consecutive years to get annexed by the US until they agreed to it in 1845, thereby causing a war between the 2 nation, at Mexico's expense, and then from 1848 forward, anytime Texas did not like the way something was going in the US gov't, they threatened to secede, and did once, and continue to do that to this day. That state's got to pick a side, does it want to be independent or part of the US? It can't have the best of both worlds, especially since Hannah Montana is from Tennessee...
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Frisivisia wrote:Fact, the best President in history was white. Fact, that proves white people are better at being president. Duh.

But since we all came from Africa, it's a known fact that the best president is an African.
So we need a white African. And we have Obama! Har har har har.


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Postby Natapoc » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:18 pm

Washington state and Oregon would like to file a formal request to join the European Union as "cascadia"
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:22 pm

Natapoc wrote:Washington state and Oregon would like to file a formal request to join the European Union as "cascadia"

I think one has to be European for that, ;)

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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:23 pm

Hawii.
Just because.

and Junii agrees with me so i must be right.
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Postby Braaainsss » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:29 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Hawii.
Just because.

and Junii agrees with me so i must be right.


Hawaii is completely dependent on tourism and imported goods.

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Postby Gordonisia » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:31 pm

maybe Indiana, since we have agriculture as well as industry and everybody likes us...
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:32 pm

Gordonisia wrote:maybe Indiana, since we have agriculture as well as industry and everybody likes us...

Well, not everybody I can assure you, :?

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Postby States United as One » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:34 pm

California, Texas, and New York....maybe Alaska or Hawaii.
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Postby Gordonisia » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:35 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Gordonisia wrote:maybe Indiana, since we have agriculture as well as industry and everybody likes us...

Well, not everybody I can assure you, :?

you don't mean that! :o
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:36 pm

Braaainsss wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Hawii.
Just because.

and Junii agrees with me so i must be right.


Hawaii is completely dependent on tourism and imported goods.

they have fish and the power of teh lolcats. they need no imports of anykind, they are at one with lolness.

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Postby Chrobalta » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:47 pm

States United as One wrote:California, Texas, and New York....maybe Alaska or Hawaii.

Alaska? Alaska is a welfare state that receives $1.84 in returns from the Federal government for every dollar that is paid in federal taxes. Alaska is dependent on the support of the taxpayers of the other 49 states. It could not survive without the money coming in from a US Federal government.
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Postby JuNii » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:09 pm

Braaainsss wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Hawii.
Just because.

and Junii agrees with me so i must be right.


Hawaii is completely dependent on tourism and imported goods.

yet Hawaii has survived before it became a "tourist" spot and long before anyone else knew it was here.
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Postby Tungookska » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:12 pm

Illinois

because I live there.

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Postby Jaloria » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:14 pm

Texas it was actually a country
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Postby Braaainsss » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:27 pm

Jaloria wrote:Texas it was actually a country


So were Hawaii, Vermont, and California (kind of).

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Postby Sailsia » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:32 pm

Maurepas wrote:Probably a toss-up between California and Texas...

TEXAS, Cali is too dependent on other Americans (rich ones) moving there, and the debt they are in would cripple them, Texas is far more stable, and could defend itself in war if it needed.
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Postby Missouri Republic » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:45 pm

Missouri
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Postby Imsogone » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:47 pm

Ashmoria wrote:california.


California has the resources, it just has a lousy government, too many people and a penchant for waste and bandaid solutions to problems. If you could overhaul the government, kick out about half the people (especially those living in LaLa Land) and convince the rest to live responsibly, you might have something.

At this point, there is no state in the Union that isn't financially distressed and I seriously doubt any of them could make it on their own, although I understand that North Dakota isn't doing too badly right now.
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Postby Ixzara » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:11 pm

I'd also say California if they somehow were able to meander their way out of their huge debt problems.
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Frisivisia wrote:Fact, the best President in history was white. Fact, that proves white people are better at being president. Duh.

But since we all came from Africa, it's a known fact that the best president is an African.
So we need a white African. And we have Obama! Har har har har.


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