The Eternal Thread: 2016 is dead! Long live 2017!

[Sungai Pusat]

Copyright and patents are two different kinds of protection and apply to different things.

Patents apply to technical inventions while copyright to "creations" (artwork, etc.).

Parents last 20 years after filing while copyright is lifetime + 70 years, iirc.

Can we file copyrights on children?

Maybe you can be the first to try.

[Lady Scylla]

Can we file copyrights on children?

Maybe you can be the first to try.

Noooooo. Kids are cute as long as I dont have to take care of them. They're demon blenders with no shield that sticks anything and everything up their nose. I'll pass.

[Costa Fierro]

New Zealand is 12 hours ahead. A few Pacific Islands are already in 2017 but we're the first country that matters that sees the New Year in. Midday tomorrow for us will be midnight for most of Europe.

....huh.

Weird odd how it honestly feels like New Zealand should be closer to Australia in my mind, so I went "GMT +12:00?"

Yup.

Still don't make sense, I live four hours behind that- oh wait, daylight time, I noticed that on the Wikipedia page.

So.... there you go.

Australia is two hours behind in time and 20 years behind in society.

[Veceria]

2016 isn't dead yet.
It still has time to kill more people.
Watch as the world explodes.

[Val Halla]

eHarmony, I think that trying to suggest that if you use another dating site, you'll end up dating a boar, is a bit of a stretch.

[Sungai Pusat]

Maybe you can be the first to try.

Noooooo. Kids are cute as long as I dont have to take care of them. They're demon blenders with no shield that sticks anything and everything up their nose. I'll pass.

True, true.

Honestly, for most kids at least, I think the point of "Be at least somewhat thankful to your parents; they probably took your vomit when you were a kid. Quite literally so." is a pretty apt point to bear.

[The Shining Purple Light]

2016 isn't dead yet.
It still has time to kill more people.
Watch as the world explodes.

We still have 18 hours left where I live...
Im 90% sure nuclear armageddon is gonna happen in that time.

[Sungai Pusat]

....huh.

Weird odd how it honestly feels like New Zealand should be closer to Australia in my mind, so I went "GMT +12:00?"

Yup.

Still don't make sense, I live four hours behind that- oh wait, daylight time, I noticed that on the Wikipedia page.

So.... there you go.

Australia is two hours behind in time and 20 years behind in society.

But aren't they doing really well with that whole mining thing, though?

I mean okay, they're pretty terrible in their treatment of refugees seeking asylum.

And they haven't legalised same sex marriage. And have an extremely religious party as half of the government. And have a none-neat number of years for terms (Three years what the fuuuuuuck (For parliament but still, the prime minister's IS a part of parliament))

[Sungai Pusat]

2016 isn't dead yet.
It still has time to kill more people.
Watch as the world explodes.

We still have 18 hours left where I live...
Im 90% sure nuclear armageddon is gonna happen in that time.

The world shall wipe out of existence by the time the new calendar rolls around, of course; I mean it happened with the Aztecs didn't it?

[Costa Fierro]

eHarmony, I think that trying to suggest that if you use another dating site, you'll end up dating a boar, is a bit of a stretch.

Well it's either that or waste time watching some 20 something woman with a 480p webcam stick things inside the Pink Cave of Despair and Destitution whilst conning middle aged men into buying her shit from an Amazon Wishlist because one was dumb enough to think clicking on the Tinder bot link would be worth the fulfillment of one's curiosity.

[Costa Fierro]

But aren't they doing really well with that whole mining thing, though?

Were. China's slow-motion economic meltdown is having knock on effects because all those precious mineral resources aren't being brought in the same quantities as they were before.

And have a none-neat number of years for terms (Three years what the fuuuuuuck (For parliament but still, the prime minister's IS a part of parliament))

We have three year terms too.

[Veceria]

2016 isn't dead yet.
It still has time to kill more people.
Watch as the world explodes.

We still have 18 hours left where I live...
Im 90% sure nuclear armageddon is gonna happen in that time.

Less than twelve hours here. I won't tell you if the world ends.

[Sungai Pusat]

But aren't they doing really well with that whole mining thing, though?

Were. China's slow-motion economic meltdown is having knock on effects because all those precious mineral resources aren't being brought in the same quantities as they were before.

And have a none-neat number of years for terms (Three years what the fuuuuuuck (For parliament but still, the prime minister's IS a part of parliament))

We have three year terms too.

Ah. Okay then.

And I mean, I was being facetious (Not obvious, I know); an economy reliant on mining is going to be inevitably volatile, much like an economy on tourism or one based on importing sexy Ryans, a la Canada.

[Costa Fierro]

Were. China's slow-motion economic meltdown is having knock on effects because all those precious mineral resources aren't being brought in the same quantities as they were before.



We have three year terms too.

Ah. Okay then.

And I mean, I was being facetious (Not obvious, I know); an economy reliant on mining is going to be inevitably volatile, much like an economy on tourism or one based on importing sexy Ryans, a la Canada.

Well NZ's biggest earner these days is tourism...

[Hurdergaryp]

Ah. Okay then.

And I mean, I was being facetious (Not obvious, I know); an economy reliant on mining is going to be inevitably volatile, much like an economy on tourism or one based on importing sexy Ryans, a la Canada.

Well NZ's biggest earner these days is tourism...

Also known as the LOTR effect.

[The Shining Purple Light]

We still have 18 hours left where I live...
Im 90% sure nuclear armageddon is gonna happen in that time.

The world shall wipe out of existence by the time the new calendar rolls around, of course; I mean it happened with the Aztecs didn't it?

I mean it'd be the perfect end to this year wouldn't it.

[Sungai Pusat]

Ah. Okay then.

And I mean, I was being facetious (Not obvious, I know); an economy reliant on mining is going to be inevitably volatile, much like an economy on tourism or one based on importing sexy Ryans, a la Canada.

Well NZ's biggest earner these days is tourism...

...well if it helps anything, Singapore is arguably a stable enough economy and we're expected to go into a recession for awhile...

[Sungai Pusat]

The world shall wipe out of existence by the time the new calendar rolls around, of course; I mean it happened with the Aztecs didn't it?

I mean it'd be the perfect end to this year wouldn't it.

I guess so.

I mean, it depends on where you're looking from and I mean more than just those more inclined towards the right of the political spectrum.

[Costa Fierro]

Well NZ's biggest earner these days is tourism...

Also known as the LOTR effect.

Well it's only because dairy prices went south.

[The Shining Purple Light]

I mean it'd be the perfect end to this year wouldn't it.

I guess so.

I mean, it depends on where you're looking from and I mean more than just those more inclined towards the right of the political spectrum.

The only good thing that happened for me this year was my state's governor loosing his re-election attempt.

Otherwise it's been pretty crap for me.

[Esternial]

Copyright and patents are two different kinds of protection and apply to different things.

Patents apply to technical inventions while copyright to "creations" (artwork, etc.).

Parents last 20 years after filing while copyright is lifetime + 70 years, iirc.

Ah, alright then.

Clarification is appreciated towards why the difference is so wide. I guess.

It still feels flimsy since a lot of what exists in modern culture exists based, in some manner or another, on past culture, much like how most of the technical innovations today come from technical innovations of the past, but ahhhhhhh Mickey Mouse.

No idea. I think patent protection is more stringent. Copyright protects the creation/concept but not how the concept is worked out, I think, so variations are permitted. Even though Mickey Mouse is copyrighted, it doesn't prohibit people from putting a talking mouse in their works.
A patent prohibits anyone from making something remotely similar (e.g. drug containing active element X), if it is phrased properly.

Patents are short to avoid monopolies on an invention, that much I know.

[Sungai Pusat]

I guess so.

I mean, it depends on where you're looking from and I mean more than just those more inclined towards the right of the political spectrum.

The only good thing that happened for me this year was my state's governor loosing his re-election attempt.

Otherwise it's been pretty crap for me.

Well, yeah... the feeling does seem to generally be that life seems to just have gone down south by the looks of it.

Not much that can be done for that, sadly. Except maybe booze, but I'm not a drinker so I can't join.

[Sungai Pusat]

Ah, alright then.

Clarification is appreciated towards why the difference is so wide. I guess.

It still feels flimsy since a lot of what exists in modern culture exists based, in some manner or another, on past culture, much like how most of the technical innovations today come from technical innovations of the past, but ahhhhhhh Mickey Mouse.

No idea. I think patent protection is more stringent. Copyright protects the creation/concept but not how the concept is worked out, I think, so variations are permitted. A patent prohibits anyone from making something remotely similar (e.g. drug containing active element X), if it is phrased properly.

Well... I guess that's true enough, though I think at least working off of the concept/creation itself is forbidden if it is money making or, at the least, it's implied as such; the idea itself can't be copyrighted, but all the details pertaining to the world certainly can be.

[Hurdergaryp]

Also known as the LOTR effect.

Well it's only because dairy prices went south.

Since New Zealand got its name from a Dutch province, follow the example of the Netherlands and make more cheese.

[Esternial]

No idea. I think patent protection is more stringent. Copyright protects the creation/concept but not how the concept is worked out, I think, so variations are permitted. A patent prohibits anyone from making something remotely similar (e.g. drug containing active element X), if it is phrased properly.

Well... I guess that's true enough, though I think at least working off of the concept/creation itself is forbidden if it is money making or, at the least, it's implied as such; the idea itself can't be copyrighted, but all the details pertaining to the world certainly can be.

Patents are fairly straightforward, in my opinion. Don't know about copyright, considering its protections aren't as "absolute".

Though patents also heavily rely on your phrasing. One word can drastically change the scope of your protection, in a way. At least that's what I gathered from my course on intellectual property.