The Eternal Thread: 2016 is dead! Long live 2017!

[The Shining Purple Light]

Well, my family afforded it by buying the title during The Great Recession. Was like a thousand dollars a pop at the time, I think.

Basically, the only way to by was for demand for cars to have plummeted so badly that no one was willing to pay a high price to own them.

Or else maybe it was mostly the wealthy who decided against it and the poor/middle class who still had stable incomes went and bought them, thus the price just kept being down because of that, idk.

I mean $122,000 for a five door hatchback is insane. $122,00 could get you a mid-range Mercedes S-Class. Or a house if you went to some town in the middle of nowhere.

That's over twice how much my family payed for our three bedroom, two story house. O.o

[Sungai Pusat]

Well, my family afforded it by buying the title during The Great Recession. Was like a thousand dollars a pop at the time, I think.

Basically, the only way to by was for demand for cars to have plummeted so badly that no one was willing to pay a high price to own them.

Or else maybe it was mostly the wealthy who decided against it and the poor/middle class who still had stable incomes went and bought them, thus the price just kept being down because of that, idk.

I mean $122,000 for a five door hatchback is insane. $122,00 could get you a mid-range Mercedes S-Class. Or a house if you went to some town in the middle of nowhere.

Ah, the car price itself.

Well, we bit the bullet for that, really. And also bought a small-ish car.

We have a bigger car now. It was a swap of titles, really, with I think a friend or a relative, I forgot who, mostly because we figured we didn't need the car for so long... and then we recently bought half of the current COE value to keep it for another five years.



Also, what town in the middle of nowhere, where would you find that in Singapore? Or a $100k house for that matter?

[Hurdergaryp]

The US. Cigs here are expensive. I was a bad chain-smoker so I'd easily go through 3-4 packs a day, or smoke so many right after another in one sitting I'd feel sick. As you can see, I always make amazing life choices.

I live in the US and it costs less than $5 here. ***for a pack not a carton***

Cigarettes are significantly more expensive over here in the Netherlands, and rightly so.

[Sungai Pusat]

I mean $122,000 for a five door hatchback is insane. $122,00 could get you a mid-range Mercedes S-Class. Or a house if you went to some town in the middle of nowhere.

That's over twice how much my family payed for our three bedroom, two story house. O.o

Housing is expensive in an international city; the price of being in the spotlight is that all the blemishes HAVE to go.

[Police state of France]

2017 will guide us into the light, my children.

[Lady Scylla]

The US. Cigs here are expensive. I was a bad chain-smoker so I'd easily go through 3-4 packs a day, or smoke so many right after another in one sitting I'd feel sick. As you can see, I always make amazing life choices.

I live in the US and it costs less than $5 here. ***for a pack not a carton***

Jesus christ. I should pick it up again and move to where you're at. A pack here can sell for $6-7

[The Shining Purple Light]

That's over twice how much my family payed for our three bedroom, two story house. O.o

Housing is expensive in an international city; the price of being in the spotlight is that all the blemishes HAVE to go.

True but still, I don't know how people can afford that, everything's cheaper where I live, we wouldn't survive if it wasn't.

I live in the US and it costs less than $5 here. ***for a pack not a carton***

Cigarettes are significantly more expensive over here in the Netherlands, and rightly so.

Eh, I mean $5 where I live is not very cheap at least in the eyes of people who live here.

[Lady Scylla]

I mean $122,000 for a five door hatchback is insane. $122,00 could get you a mid-range Mercedes S-Class. Or a house if you went to some town in the middle of nowhere.

Ah, the car price itself.

Well, we bit the bullet for that, really. And also bought a small-ish car.

We have a bigger car now. It was a swap of titles, really, with I think a friend or a relative, I forgot who, mostly because we figured we didn't need the car for so long... and then we recently bought half of the current COE value to keep it for another five years.



Also, what town in the middle of nowhere, where would you find that in Singapore? Or a $100k house for that matter?

This is why I'll be getting my new motorcycle sometime next year. Brand new (Indian Scout) it's going to be around $10,000 versus a new car of like $30,000 or more.

[The Shining Purple Light]

I live in the US and it costs less than $5 here. ***for a pack not a carton***

Jesus christ. I should pick it up again and move to where you're at. A pack here can sell for $6-7

Comes with the territory when you live just a county or two over from tobacco farms, my state produces along with Georgia and Kentucky 80% of the US's local tobacco.

[Sungai Pusat]

Housing is expensive in an international city; the price of being in the spotlight is that all the blemishes HAVE to go.

True but still, I don't know how people can afford that, everything's cheaper where I live, we wouldn't survive if it wasn't.

Cigarettes are significantly more expensive over here in the Netherlands, and rightly so.

Eh, I mean $5 where I live is not very cheap at least in the eyes of people who live here.

I didn't say anything about how people afford the rent here, honestly.

Only said why and about what it would do to the people within the city......



Sorry, got a little sad from that; we mostly afford it from the fact that most people opt to buy their 50 to 100 square metre space in the sky as opposed to rent it.

Example: The house I live in is, I think, valued at maybe about... okay, maybe take another place instead.

Ang Mo Kio is a famous example for how expensive things are, so we'll use that:

For a 2 room flat, it's either 340k up front or 1.9k for monthly rent.

Past 15 years, the rent cost exceeds the cost of buying it.

So... best option is to buy it instead of paying the rent for it.

[Sungai Pusat]

Ah, the car price itself.

Well, we bit the bullet for that, really. And also bought a small-ish car.

We have a bigger car now. It was a swap of titles, really, with I think a friend or a relative, I forgot who, mostly because we figured we didn't need the car for so long... and then we recently bought half of the current COE value to keep it for another five years.



Also, what town in the middle of nowhere, where would you find that in Singapore? Or a $100k house for that matter?

This is why I'll be getting my new motorcycle sometime next year. Brand new (Indian Scout) it's going to be around $10,000 versus a new car of like $30,000 or more.

Oooohh...

[Police state of France]

Jesus christ. I should pick it up again and move to where you're at. A pack here can sell for $6-7

Comes with the territory when you live just a county or two over from tobacco farms, my state produces along with Georgia and Kentucky 80% of the US's local tobacco.

Cigarettes =\= as good as Cigars.

[Lady Scylla]

Comes with the territory when you live just a county or two over from tobacco farms, my state produces along with Georgia and Kentucky 80% of the US's local tobacco.

Cigarettes =\= as good as Cigars.

Cigars are good. Unless you pull a me, and not knowing, inhale the bloody thing while your friend laughs his ass off.

[The Shining Purple Light]

True but still, I don't know how people can afford that, everything's cheaper where I live, we wouldn't survive if it wasn't.

Eh, I mean $5 where I live is not very cheap at least in the eyes of people who live here.

I didn't say anything about how people afford the rent here, honestly.

Only said why and about what it would do to the people within the city......



Sorry, got a little sad from that; we mostly afford it from the fact that most people opt to buy their 50 to 100 square metre space in the sky as opposed to rent it.

Example: The house I live in is, I think, valued at maybe about... okay, maybe take another place instead.

Ang Mo Kio is a famous example for how expensive things are, so we'll use that:

For a 2 room flat, it's either 340k up front or 1.9k for monthly rent.

Past 15 years, the rent cost exceeds the cost of buying it.

So... best option is to buy it instead of paying the rent for it.

That's such a large amount of money for a two room flat... You could buy a whole neighborhood here with that.

Sorry it's just hard to imagine houses costing that much, I mean i've been in apartments before and like where my dad lives, that costs him like a $900 and it's a two bedroom apartment in the city limits of Charlotte.

[Police state of France]

Cigarettes =\= as good as Cigars.

Cigars are good. Unless you pull a me, and not knowing, inhale the bloody thing while your friend laughs his ass off.

Yeah, cigar's are not supposed to be inhaled, cuz they're supposed to be *insert name of thing you do with mouth*, and it tastes good as well.

[Lady Scylla]

Cigars are good. Unless you pull a me, and not knowing, inhale the bloody thing while your friend laughs his ass off.

Yeah, cigar's are not supposed to be inhaled, cuz they're supposed to be *insert name of thing you do with mouth*, and it tastes good as well.

Rolling it. Roll the smoke in your mouth. That information was conveniently left out for others' amusement.

[Hurdergaryp]

Cigarettes are significantly more expensive over here in the Netherlands, and rightly so.

Eh, I mean $5 where I live is not very cheap at least in the eyes of people who live here.

But it is considered a low price where I live.

[Lady Scylla]

I didn't say anything about how people afford the rent here, honestly.

Only said why and about what it would do to the people within the city......



Sorry, got a little sad from that; we mostly afford it from the fact that most people opt to buy their 50 to 100 square metre space in the sky as opposed to rent it.

Example: The house I live in is, I think, valued at maybe about... okay, maybe take another place instead.

Ang Mo Kio is a famous example for how expensive things are, so we'll use that:

For a 2 room flat, it's either 340k up front or 1.9k for monthly rent.

Past 15 years, the rent cost exceeds the cost of buying it.

So... best option is to buy it instead of paying the rent for it.

That's such a large amount of money for a two room flat... You could buy a whole neighborhood here with that.

Sorry it's just hard to imagine houses costing that much, I mean i've been in apartments before and like where my dad lives, that costs him like a $900 and it's a two bedroom apartment in the city limits of Charlotte.

Here, housing to buy can be $250K up. To rent is usually $800 in the projects, and around $1-1.5K in the nicer parts of town.

[Sungai Pusat]

I didn't say anything about how people afford the rent here, honestly.

Only said why and about what it would do to the people within the city......



Sorry, got a little sad from that; we mostly afford it from the fact that most people opt to buy their 50 to 100 square metre space in the sky as opposed to rent it.

Example: The house I live in is, I think, valued at maybe about... okay, maybe take another place instead.

Ang Mo Kio is a famous example for how expensive things are, so we'll use that:

For a 2 room flat, it's either 340k up front or 1.9k for monthly rent.

Past 15 years, the rent cost exceeds the cost of buying it.

So... best option is to buy it instead of paying the rent for it.

That's such a large amount of money for a two room flat... You could buy a whole neighborhood here with that.

Sorry it's just hard to imagine houses costing that much, I mean i've been in apartments before and like where my dad lives, that costs him like a $900 and it's a two bedroom apartment in the city limits of Charlotte.

It's 800 sq feet... that doesn't help.

Again, that's what you get by being an international city tbf; NYC, London, Paris, Hong Kong, Tokyo; all of those places are marked right now by a similar process of gentrification. At this rate, all the local shops will start closing down here in Singapore and up will be hipster-y junctions that probably can't fucking afford the prices themselves.

At least we're not Hong Kong; fucking PRADA has to close a store there, apparently, because the rents are so atypically high.

[Lady Scylla]

http://i.imgur.com/BZi8WBy.mp4

Raccoons are terrifying.

[The V O I D]

http://i.imgur.com/BZi8WBy.mp4

Raccoons are terrifying.

Wait, is that something you just found, or is this at your house?

Either way, flamethrowers.

[Sungai Pusat]

http://i.imgur.com/BZi8WBy.mp4

Raccoons are terrifying.

Well.... they're terrifying because they have no conception of time beyond the current and knowing that someone's dumping food just above them, but never actually being able to reach the person doing so to kill them for hiding so much of the goodies from them.

[The Shining Purple Light]

Eh, I mean $5 where I live is not very cheap at least in the eyes of people who live here.

But it is considered a low price where I live.

Money is different for everyone.

That's such a large amount of money for a two room flat... You could buy a whole neighborhood here with that.

Sorry it's just hard to imagine houses costing that much, I mean i've been in apartments before and like where my dad lives, that costs him like a $900 and it's a two bedroom apartment in the city limits of Charlotte.

Here, housing to buy can be $250K up. To rent is usually $800 in the projects, and around $1-1.5K in the nicer parts of town.

Projects? Like public housing?
We just got our first public housing building where I live, like ten apartments beside an old middle school.

That's such a large amount of money for a two room flat... You could buy a whole neighborhood here with that.

Sorry it's just hard to imagine houses costing that much, I mean i've been in apartments before and like where my dad lives, that costs him like a $900 and it's a two bedroom apartment in the city limits of Charlotte.

It's 800 sq feet... that doesn't help.

Again, that's what you get by being an international city tbf; NYC, London, Paris, Hong Kong, Tokyo; all of those places are marked right now by a similar process of gentrification. At this rate, all the local shops will start closing down here in Singapore and up will be hipster-y junctions that probably can't fucking afford the prices themselves.

At least we're not Hong Kong; fucking PRADA has to close a store there, apparently, because the rents are so atypically high.

Jesus... I've never been anywhere with more than a million people so like this is alot of culture shock for me.

[Lady Scylla]

http://i.imgur.com/BZi8WBy.mp4

Raccoons are terrifying.

Wait, is that something you just found, or is this at your house?

Either way, flamethrowers.

I just found it.

[The V O I D]

Wait, is that something you just found, or is this at your house?

Either way, flamethrowers.

I just found it.

Ah. Still. Flamethrowers.

Some nice, crispy BBQ Raccoon.