BongBongLand (Philippine) Discussion Thread

[Duhon]

DDS. Ganun ba kaconvoluted ang English ko?

Oho. Kay vigilante group 'yon, hindi private army.

Oh well. The rest of the country will catch up to my purple prose. Eventually.

As to this threading distinctions between "vigilantes" and "private army", same difference. The state employs them to ferret out NPA sparrow units specifically, but it's hard to see how this won't be subject to de facto mission creep, ie salvaging commies and "commies" and well they're not commies *bang*, as has been happening with the drug war.

[Stormwrath]

Oho. Kay vigilante group 'yon, hindi private army.

Oh well. The rest of the country will catch up to my purple prose. Eventually.

As to this threading distinctions between "vigilantes" and "private army", same difference. The state employs them to ferret out NPA sparrow units specifically, but it's hard to see how this won't be subject to de facto mission creep, ie salvaging commies and "commies" and well they're not commies *bang*, as has been happening with the drug war.

Calm down, the death squads, which btw aren't employed by the state, aren't going to kill you in your sleep because you're left of "NAZI!" or something.

[Duhon]

So with the Makapili. So with the many other such groups we've had in our history. No matter: we still saw both blameworthy and blameless savaged then salvaged, with those in power able to pass the blame to the scapegoat of the moment.

[Vulkata II]

I honestly can't remember a time when we said "oops. We fucked up everybody, sorry."

The blaming finger always go wherever they can land on.

[Duhon]

The Balangiga bells are back, and so is the issue of martial law in Mindanao. Currently watching the GMA live coverage of the joint session of Congress upon the issue.

Me nanonood ba?

[Vulkata II]

Tingin ko alam ko na ano ang occassion.

Maganda naman sila. Malaki din.

[Kubra]

So uh is there minimum amount of marijuana to count as possession or is it just any amount
cuz I mean I recall a story of a guy going to a gulf state and having like a bit on his shoe and he got the book thrown at him
I mean, I probably got some on me, shits messy.

[Pasong Tirad]

So uh is there minimum amount of marijuana to count as possession or is it just any amount
cuz I mean I recall a story of a guy going to a gulf state and having like a bit on his shoe and he got the book thrown at him
I mean, I probably got some on me, shits messy.

Probably best to be safe and just throw it all out because our government is ass-backwards and they'll prosecute the hell out of you.

[Kubra]

So uh is there minimum amount of marijuana to count as possession or is it just any amount
cuz I mean I recall a story of a guy going to a gulf state and having like a bit on his shoe and he got the book thrown at him
I mean, I probably got some on me, shits messy.

Probably best to be safe and just throw it all out because our government is ass-backwards and they'll prosecute the hell out of you.

When I say "have some on me", I mean I probably have crumbs in some crevice or other, and well I was hoping to get away with not having a dry-cleaning bill.
Well, guess it beats rotting in a cockroach hilton.

[Pasong Tirad]

Probably best to be safe and just throw it all out because our government is ass-backwards and they'll prosecute the hell out of you.

When I say "have some on me", I mean I probably have crumbs in some crevice or other, and well I was hoping to get away with not having a dry-cleaning bill.
Well, guess it beats rotting in a cockroach hilton.

Best avoid the airport dogs then or something.

TBH I'm not entirely sure about, you know, crumbs. Maybe just dab a roller on yourself before you leave, I guess?

[Stormwrath]

> tfw you try to stop martial law by doing the very thing that justifies martial law

Thank you CPP, very cool /s

[Pasong Tirad]

> tfw you try to stop martial law by doing the very thing that justifies martial law

Thank you CPP, very cool /s

>tfw you think martial law is justified because some red bois want to stop some green bois from fucking up poor communities and bombing lumad schools

Sounds like something Marcos would have said.

>tfw the cpp-npa have been shooting up the countryside for half a century but presidents have only declared martial law in response to them twice, and the first time it led to the president who declared martial law becoming the best recruiter of the npa, ballooning their numbers from less than a thousand to nearly 30,000 by the 1980s.

[Stormwrath]

> tfw you try to stop martial law by doing the very thing that justifies martial law

Thank you CPP, very cool /s

>tfw you think martial law is justified because some red bois want to stop some green bois from fucking up poor communities and bombing lumad schools

Sounds like something Marcos would have said.

>tfw the cpp-npa have been shooting up the countryside for half a century but presidents have only declared martial law in response to them twice, and the first time it led to the president who declared martial law becoming the best recruiter of the npa, ballooning their numbers from less than a thousand to nearly 30,000 by the 1980s.

First off, I wasn't defending Martial Law extension or the Lumad bombings, in fact I had no idea we still had it in place or that actual communities are being bombed (inb4 OH LOOK, YOU HAVE PLAYED YOURSELF STORM, YOUR BENEVOLENT LEADER IS BOMBING YOUR DUMB ASS). Secondly, stuff like attacking government troops bcoz martial law is gonna go on for another year is counterproductive to actually ending martial law bcoz it gives the government even more justification, misguided it may be, to actually make it go on forever.

[Pasong Tirad]

>tfw you think martial law is justified because some red bois want to stop some green bois from fucking up poor communities and bombing lumad schools

Sounds like something Marcos would have said.

>tfw the cpp-npa have been shooting up the countryside for half a century but presidents have only declared martial law in response to them twice, and the first time it led to the president who declared martial law becoming the best recruiter of the npa, ballooning their numbers from less than a thousand to nearly 30,000 by the 1980s.

First off, I wasn't defending Martial Law extension or the Lumad bombings, in fact I had no idea we still had it in place or that actual communities are being bombed (inb4 OH LOOK, YOU HAVE PLAYED YOURSELF STORM, YOUR BENEVOLENT LEADER IS BOMBING YOUR DUMB ASS). Secondly, stuff like attacking government troops bcoz martial law is gonna go on for another year is counterproductive to actually ending martial law bcoz it gives the government even more justification, misguided it may be, to actually make it go on forever.

"Counterproductive" would imply the military wasn't going to keep screwing over poor communities if the NPA didn't attack, and that the administration wasn't going to keep extending martial law if not for the CPP-NPA. Which obviously isn't true, given how abuses during the year-long period of martial law continued and actually increased (weird how giving people unchecked power leads to fuck all) and how the justification for martial law keeps changing. It's not counterproductive to arm up and fight when you're backed into a corner and all other possible avenues for you have been blocked off. Your Glorious Leader did this, not the NPA, and any attempt to lay any guilt on them is just a pointless attempt to pass blame for the deep shit the poor and the indigenous are facing.

[Stormwrath]

First off, I wasn't defending Martial Law extension or the Lumad bombings, in fact I had no idea we still had it in place or that actual communities are being bombed (inb4 OH LOOK, YOU HAVE PLAYED YOURSELF STORM, YOUR BENEVOLENT LEADER IS BOMBING YOUR DUMB ASS). Secondly, stuff like attacking government troops bcoz martial law is gonna go on for another year is counterproductive to actually ending martial law bcoz it gives the government even more justification, misguided it may be, to actually make it go on forever.

"Counterproductive" would imply the military wasn't going to keep screwing over poor communities if the NPA didn't attack, and that the administration wasn't going to keep extending martial law if not for the CPP-NPA. Which obviously isn't true, given how abuses during the year-long period of martial law continued and actually increased (weird how giving people unchecked power leads to fuck all) and how the justification for martial law keeps changing. It's not counterproductive to arm up and fight when you're backed into a corner and all other possible avenues for you have been blocked off. Your Glorious Leader did this, not the NPA, and any attempt to lay any guilt on them is just a pointless attempt to pass blame for the deep shit the poor and the indigenous are facing.

Did I just read what I think you just... is that an advocation for armed rebellion I hear?

Who am I kidding, attacking military personnel all over the country because they swore allegiance to the President (who has proven to be less-than-capable of making peace with your violent, terroristic, revolutionary, overthrow-the-government ass bcoz you want nothing short of a Communist takeover) is a valid course of action. It's 2018, and goddammit if the Bolsheviks and CCP can do it, so can we!

Also, the "abuses" you talk about during the olden Martial Law, if that is what you were referring to, included arrests for curfew violations. Which isn't an abuse of power btw, you just didn't bother to go home by 22:00.

[Pasong Tirad]

"Counterproductive" would imply the military wasn't going to keep screwing over poor communities if the NPA didn't attack, and that the administration wasn't going to keep extending martial law if not for the CPP-NPA. Which obviously isn't true, given how abuses during the year-long period of martial law continued and actually increased (weird how giving people unchecked power leads to fuck all) and how the justification for martial law keeps changing. It's not counterproductive to arm up and fight when you're backed into a corner and all other possible avenues for you have been blocked off. Your Glorious Leader did this, not the NPA, and any attempt to lay any guilt on them is just a pointless attempt to pass blame for the deep shit the poor and the indigenous are facing.

Did I just read what I think you just... is that an advocation for armed rebellion I hear?

Who am I kidding, attacking military personnel all over the country because they swore allegiance to the President (who has proven to be less-than-capable of making peace with your violent, terroristic, revolutionary, overthrow-the-government ass bcoz you want nothing short of a Communist takeover) is a valid course of action. It's 2018, and goddammit if the Bolsheviks and CCP can do it, so can we!

Also, the "abuses" you talk about during the olden Martial Law, if that is what you were referring to, included arrests for curfew violations. Which isn't an abuse of power btw, you just didn't bother to go home by 22:00.

Hardly an endorsement of the CPP-NPA, rather an explanation that, since the government is going to kill us all anyway, might as well arm up. This is the government's fault, after all. The Reds have been around for fifty years and they've done fuck all, unless you think some oppressed provincials in some godforsaken mountain are suddenly going to have the logistical capabilities to launch an offensive aimed at the Malacanan - which, given the systematic suppression of workers' unions and the impoverishing of our farmers is highly unlikely. But sure, continue trying to red-tag people (myself included, apparently) as Joma Sison-worshipping little terrorists who want to kill everybody, since it's the way to go apparently. It's 2018, and goddamnit if Macoy can do it, so can I!

And yes, just so you know, fighting back against the military for literally murdering and threatening Lumads who just want to go to school.

I was talking about this current martial law (as the statement and link above may show), but holy shit thank you for showing your hand and trying to justify Marcos' arrests as "didn't go home by 10." Moving the goalposts is a great move, but it ain't gonna work. What load of fucking authoritarian-loving bullshit you have spewing out of your mouth.

[Kubra]

It's enough to say that the CCP-NPA experienced its highest growth during the martial law period, and mostly because of it.
Chances are the CCP has judged, perhaps correctly, that martial law will not hurt it except in the short term.

[Duhon]

And we see your true colors shinin' through
And we see your true colors
That's why I loathe dicks
So don't be afraid
You're fucked anyway
Chinese lapdog
Marcos suckup
You're so beautiful
Now lick my ass off

And what inspired this little ditty, sure to send our raving loon over yonder on a titter? Why, over government contracts he's signed with Xi. And you ask me what's wrong with authoritarianism? As if not questioning and criticizing people in government is the natural state of things?

To tyrants everywhere and everywhen: Gotz von fuckin' B!

[Stormwrath]

*sees thread revived*

Oh no.

Oh no.

[Duhon]

*sees thread revived*

Oh no.

Oh no.

I had to say it.

[Stormwrath]

*sees thread revived*

Oh no.

Oh no.

I had to say it.

Duterte's threats were borne from the govt contract review stuff, not from people criticizing our ass spreading to China or his fanboyism for Marcos.

Look what you made me do, I'm going down the Dutertard spiral again.

[Duhon]

I had to say it.

Duterte's threats were borne from the govt contract review stuff, not from people criticizing our ass spreading to China or his fanboyism for Marcos.

Look what you made me do, I'm going down the Dutertard spiral again.

I know.

That makes it worse. Even if the request to review outstanding contracts the admin has had with Beijing is unreasonable, there remains no need for him to go on a wannabe authoritarian rant about how he can always get rid of the opposition if he so wants. It is grossly irresponsible, very much so.

[Duhon]

What actual fresh hell is this?

Duterte signs law breaking up Palawan into 3 provinces

The provinces of Palawan del Norte, Palawan Oriental, and Palawan del Sur will be created upon approval of a majority of voters in a May 2020 plebiscite that excludes Puerto Princesa residents.

Once the new provinces are created, the ownership of the real properties and infrastructure projects of each local government unit shall belong to the province where it is located.

In the case of Puerto Princesa, real properties in the city owned by the current Palawan province or held in trust for the national government, will be “co-owned and/or co-managed be the three (3) provinces for the mutual benefit of its constituents.”

“Decision as to its use and disposition shall be made upon consensus of at least two provinces to be embodied in a memorandum of agreement duty entered into in accordance with the Local Government Code of 1991, as amended," the law said.

[Pan-Asiatic States]

What actual fresh hell is this?

Duterte signs law breaking up Palawan into 3 provinces

The provinces of Palawan del Norte, Palawan Oriental, and Palawan del Sur will be created upon approval of a majority of voters in a May 2020 plebiscite that excludes Puerto Princesa residents.

Once the new provinces are created, the ownership of the real properties and infrastructure projects of each local government unit shall belong to the province where it is located.

In the case of Puerto Princesa, real properties in the city owned by the current Palawan province or held in trust for the national government, will be “co-owned and/or co-managed be the three (3) provinces for the mutual benefit of its constituents.”

“Decision as to its use and disposition shall be made upon consensus of at least two provinces to be embodied in a memorandum of agreement duty entered into in accordance with the Local Government Code of 1991, as amended," the law said.

Ah yes.

Pala-one.
Pala-two.
And Pala-three.

[Pasong Tirad]

What actual fresh hell is this?

Duterte signs law breaking up Palawan into 3 provinces

Ah yes.

Pala-one.
Pala-two.
And Pala-three.

You're banned. Get out. That was the worst.