BongBongLand (Philippine) Discussion Thread

[Kovacna]

Not if you're on other forums/comments sections where you have to deal with some politically correct left-wing people who can't tolerate opposing political beliefs.

We're not the intolerant ones here.

You're one of the first people I've seen on the Internet who's left-leaning (from my observation) but is pretty constructive and open minded towards other political beliefs.

[Pasong Tirad]

We're not the intolerant ones here.

You're one of the first people I've seen on the Internet who's left-leaning (from my observation) but is pretty constructive and open minded towards other political beliefs.

The whole left-right dichotomy is too weird for me. I'm only left-leaning because of my social and political beliefs, but economically I don't know jack shit and would much rather let the market do its own thing (with regulation here and there, of course - certain capitalist practices in the Philippines need to be remedied).

[Kovacna]

You're one of the first people I've seen on the Internet who's left-leaning (from my observation) but is pretty constructive and open minded towards other political beliefs.

The whole left-right dichotomy is too weird for me. I'm only left-leaning because of my social and political beliefs, but economically I don't know jack shit and would much rather let the market do its own thing (with regulation here and there, of course - certain capitalist practices in the Philippines need to be remedied).

The left-right thing is a spectrum that is from an economic and social viewpoint: in the PH, the social part is more emphasized as conservative and liberal. The economic left wants more government regulation and even redistribution + higher taxes while economic right wants less government regulation and no redistribution/socialist policies. They have more freedom from taxation. Pretty interesting how this game taught me how the left-right system on the economic scale works.

[Victoriala II]

joke: identifying your opinions with overarching ideologies and movements
woke: the opposite

[Pasong Tirad]

The whole left-right dichotomy is too weird for me. I'm only left-leaning because of my social and political beliefs, but economically I don't know jack shit and would much rather let the market do its own thing (with regulation here and there, of course - certain capitalist practices in the Philippines need to be remedied).

The left-right thing is a spectrum that is from an economic and social viewpoint: in the PH, the social part is more emphasized as conservative and liberal. The economic left wants more government regulation and even redistribution + higher taxes while economic right wants less government regulation and no redistribution/socialist policies. They have more freedom from taxation. Pretty interesting how this game taught me how the left-right system on the economic scale works.

Okay then yeah you can call me a leftist in basically all aspects.

And I have to add that I'm very open minded about other political beliefs because I don't really care as much about your leanings.

joke: identifying your opinions with overarching ideologies and movements
woke: the opposite

If I laugh which one am I?

[Kovacna]

joke: identifying your opinions with overarching ideologies and movements
woke: the opposite

pretty sure that i'm aware of my life being a joke lmao

[Kovacna]

Okay then yeah you can call me a leftist in basically all aspects.

And I have to add that I'm very open minded about other political beliefs because I don't really care as much about your leanings.

Thoughts on legit anarchy?

[Pasong Tirad]

Okay then yeah you can call me a leftist in basically all aspects.

And I have to add that I'm very open minded about other political beliefs because I don't really care as much about your leanings.

Thoughts on legit anarchy?

Don't know enough of anarchy to make an opinion. Probably won't work in the Philippines, though (if we're thinking of anarchy as in statelessness and stuff). Too regionalist to function now, what more without a national government?

[Kovacna]

Thoughts on legit anarchy?

Don't know enough of anarchy to make an opinion. Probably won't work in the Philippines, though (if we're thinking of anarchy as in statelessness and stuff). Too regionalist to function now, what more without a national government?

True. Pretty much why I'm reluctant of gun rights being implemented in PH, compared with how effective it is in Switzerland. People here are not as disciplined to be given the right to gun ownership.

[Pasong Tirad]

Don't know enough of anarchy to make an opinion. Probably won't work in the Philippines, though (if we're thinking of anarchy as in statelessness and stuff). Too regionalist to function now, what more without a national government?

True. Pretty much why I'm reluctant of gun rights being implemented in PH, compared with how effective it is in Switzerland. People here are not as disciplined to be given the right to gun ownership.

Discipline isn't the issue here. Discipline now just sounds like this buzzword people throw around as an excuse to take away things they think people shouldn't have. Like cars, gun rights and basic freedoms.

[Kovacna]

True. Pretty much why I'm reluctant of gun rights being implemented in PH, compared with how effective it is in Switzerland. People here are not as disciplined to be given the right to gun ownership.

Discipline isn't the issue here. Discipline now just sounds like this buzzword people throw around as an excuse to take away things they think people shouldn't have. Like cars, gun rights and basic freedoms.

I'm more of the type of person who prefers to live in a stable and safe society than to have freedom while in a more unsafe environment. Sometimes we have to take away certain freedoms to make our situation safer.

[Victoriala II]

The left-right thing is a spectrum that is from an economic and social viewpoint: in the PH, the social part is more emphasized as conservative and liberal. The economic left wants more government regulation and even redistribution + higher taxes while economic right wants less government regulation and no redistribution/socialist policies. They have more freedom from taxation. Pretty interesting how this game taught me how the left-right system on the economic scale works.

Okay then yeah you can call me a leftist in basically all aspects.

And I have to add that I'm very open minded about other political beliefs because I don't really care as much about your leanings.

joke: identifying your opinions with overarching ideologies and movements
woke: the opposite

If I laugh which one am I?

self aware

[Pasong Tirad]

Discipline isn't the issue here. Discipline now just sounds like this buzzword people throw around as an excuse to take away things they think people shouldn't have. Like cars, gun rights and basic freedoms.

I'm more of the type of person who prefers to live in a stable and safe society than to have freedom while in a more unsafe environment. Sometimes we have to take away certain freedoms to make our situation safer.

Those aren't exclusive concepts.

[Pasong Tirad]

joke: identifying your opinions with overarching ideologies and movements
woke: the opposite

If I laugh which one am I?

self aware[/quote]
Awyis.

[Kovacna]

I'm more of the type of person who prefers to live in a stable and safe society than to have freedom while in a more unsafe environment. Sometimes we have to take away certain freedoms to make our situation safer.

Those aren't exclusive concepts.

Yes, I'm just saying that taking away some freedoms in the name of stability is fine by me.

[Pasong Tirad]

Those aren't exclusive concepts.

Yes, I'm just saying that taking away some freedoms in the name of stability is fine by me.

Okay cool you do that, I'll keep my freedoms, thanks.

[Rio Cana]

Confirmed: 9 Marawi City residents attempting to flee were executed by Maute terrorists in a checkpoint. All were Christians. This is just depressing.

A French news source was saying that people of all religions were trying to get out of Marawi City. The Pres. of the Philippines declared martial law in all of Mindanao island. He says its not the locals rebelling but outside foreign forces which want to establish in Mindanao there own caliphate. These foreign forces have made Marawi City there so called stronghold. Government troops are pouring in.

Seems since what is left of there so called caliphate in Iraq, in Syria and Iraq, is falling apart big time that they have decided to move on to other places. Egypt , so we have these groups in Egypt trying to eliminate the Copts. And now most likely the same group trying to do the same in the Southern Philippines. At least in the Philippines the current Pres. will most likely do what it takes to crush these so called foreign forces.

Edit -
Video of government forces pouring in - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqtF6q-Ta-Q

Another edit - Found a story on this from a UK. source - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05 ... o-rampage/

[Yortium Allanstan]

I thought that's already a given.

Not if you're on other forums/comments sections where you have to deal with some politically correct left-wing people who can't tolerate opposing political beliefs.

I thought you liked authoritarianism?

[Greed and Death]

Trump said he is doing a good job do we need to investigate further ?

[Mundiferrum]

Yes, I'm just saying that taking away some freedoms in the name of stability is fine by me.

Okay cool you do that, I'll keep my freedoms, thanks.

That's the nature of any state: to take away some freedoms for the sake of others. I'm not free to shoot someone in the street, but, in exchange, I am free to not get shot by someone random in the street, and thus am free of living my life with a bit less fear. The real question is what freedoms do you consider essential, and what freedoms are you willing to sacrifice?

[Victoriala II]

Okay cool you do that, I'll keep my freedoms, thanks.

That's the nature of any state: to take away some freedoms for the sake of others. I'm not free to shoot someone in the street, but, in exchange, I am free to not get shot by someone random in the street, and thus am free of living my life with a bit less fear. The real question is what freedoms do you consider essential, and what freedoms are you willing to sacrifice?

I'd sacrifice my freedom to be a fucking TOOL haha dab that shit my guy

[Kovacna]

Not if you're on other forums/comments sections where you have to deal with some politically correct left-wing people who can't tolerate opposing political beliefs.

I thought you liked authoritarianism?

Just because I am fine with authoritarianism doesn't mean I don't tolerate other beliefs.

[Kovacna]

Okay cool you do that, I'll keep my freedoms, thanks.

That's the nature of any state: to take away some freedoms for the sake of others. I'm not free to shoot someone in the street, but, in exchange, I am free to not get shot by someone random in the street, and thus am free of living my life with a bit less fear. The real question is what freedoms do you consider essential, and what freedoms are you willing to sacrifice?

That depends. For me, the end justifies the means.

[Senkaku]

Never been here before but this Marawi shit is p crazy, and getting surprisingly little attention in the states (tho I guess we just had Manchester, so we're probs too busy mourning white people to move onto the actually more worrying ISIS thing)

[Pasong Tirad]

Never been here before but this Marawi shit is p crazy, and getting surprisingly little attention in the states (tho I guess we just had Manchester, so we're probs too busy mourning white people to move onto the actually more worrying ISIS thing)

Maute isn't ISIS. They've pledged their allegiance to ISIS, but that Baghdadi dude himself isn't really paying attention. Think of Marawi as an elaborate audition tape.