BongBongLand (Philippine) Discussion Thread

[Pasong Tirad]

Najib needs to fuck off tbh

Barisan's still going to win tho. So they're probs replacing one puppet for another.

Also pfft. Mocha's appointment just means they're legitimizing gov't funds going into her pocket.

[Stormwrath]

Between Philippines and us down here, which will go up in flame first?

To your credit, Jokowi isn't even anywhere near as insane as Duts, and unlike that coward, Jokowi actually has the spine to stand up to China. Indonesia is far more successful in the "independent foreign policy" front.

If its any consolation, Malaysia and that embezzling Chinese puppet Najib Razak will burn long before either Philippines or Indonesia does.

> assuming Du30 doesn't go up in flames before Najib does

Whatever, both are going to burn in hell anyways.

[Victoriala II]

Najib needs to fuck off tbh

Barisan's still going to win tho. So they're probs replacing one puppet for another.

Also pfft. Mocha's appointment just means they're legitimizing gov't funds going into her pocket.

Bah, even BN hates the guy

[Pasong Tirad]

If you haven't already read it.

[Kubra]

If you haven't already read it.

probably one of the hardest things I've had to read in quite some time.

[Pasong Tirad]

If you haven't already read it.

probably one of the hardest things I've had to read in quite some time.

Really goes to show we have a history with slavery we also need to address.

EDIT: Also loving all the "Westsplaining" coming online right now.

[Vesilen Island]

> CA kicks Lopez
> CA approves Cayetano
> A lot of messy politics stuff
> NOTHING'S CHANGED

[Stormwrath]

> CA kicks Lopez
> CA approves Cayetano
> A lot of messy politics stuff
> NOTHING'S CHANGED

LOL, you actually think change happens within less than a year?

[Victoriala II]

My optimism died three months in

[Devernia]

My optimism died three months in

Ha, welcome to NationStates.

[Pasong Tirad]

> CA kicks Lopez
> CA approves Cayetano
> A lot of messy politics stuff
> NOTHING'S CHANGED

LOL, you actually think change happens within less than a year?

Ah, still a supporter, I see.

[Vesilen Island]

My optimism died three months in

Change must come from a radical, that's true. Duterte's being a radical. Radically stupid.

[Victoriala II]

My optimism died three months in

Change must come from a radical, that's true. Duterte's being a radical. Radically stupid.

Really vinegars your spring rolls doesn't it

[Vesilen Island]

Change must come from a radical, that's true. Duterte's being a radical. Radically stupid.

Really vinegars your spring rolls doesn't it

It really triggers my Tumblr. I supported that wacko on the Internet, even went into a flame war for a moment. Now.. I would've voted for Santiago or Poe and Escudero.

At least... there is still lumpiang Shanghai

[Stormwrath]

LOL, you actually think change happens within less than a year?

Ah, still a supporter, I see.

Yes, though I have grown apathetic at whatever fights he gets himself into by now. I got bigger problems. Also I have already come to terms long ago that change doesn't happen overnight, so I've learned to be patient.

[Pasong Tirad]

Really vinegars your spring rolls doesn't it

It really triggers my Tumblr. I supported that wacko on the Internet, even went into a flame war for a moment. Now.. I would've voted for Santiago or Poe and Escudero.

At least... there is still lumpiang Shanghai

Lol @ Santiago.

[Victoriala II]

Ah, still a supporter, I see.

Yes, though I have grown apathetic at whatever fights he gets himself into by now. I got bigger problems. Also I have already come to terms long ago that change doesn't happen overnight, so I've learned to be patient.

>trusting in the future in the current year

[Mundiferrum]

It really triggers my Tumblr. I supported that wacko on the Internet, even went into a flame war for a moment. Now.. I would've voted for Santiago or Poe and Escudero.

At least... there is still lumpiang Shanghai

Lol @ Santiago.

i voted for her, you know

lol

[Victoriala II]

he lied

OHOHOHOHO

[Kovacna]

I honestly don't think it matters if Duterte is polite or not. What matters more is that he gets the job done. Come to think of it, I'd rather have a president who curses the UN and EU to death but commits to positive change for the country than to have a respectful president that doesn't do anything.

[Stormwrath]

Really vinegars your spring rolls doesn't it

It really triggers my Tumblr. I supported that wacko on the Internet, even went into a flame war for a moment. Now.. I would've voted for Santiago or Poe and Escudero.

At least... there is still lumpiang Shanghai

Well, spoiler alert: one of them's dead.

[Mundiferrum]

I honestly don't think it matters if Duterte is polite or not. What matters more is that he gets the job done. Come to think of it, I'd rather have a president who curses the UN and EU to death but commits to positive change for the country than to have a respectful president that doesn't do anything.

the problem isn't that he's impolite; the problem is more that he's so blase about death. he's basically inciting us all not just to rail against the establishment, which i don't agree with but isn't necessarily evil, but to rail against the deepest standards of good and evil by which our society is kept sane. hate against the EU? it might lead to economic ruin, which would destroy your point about "committing to positive change", but sure. ignore all incentives to make this current drug war any less murderous, even if he's not directly responsible for all the deaths? might as well be responsible for those deaths, he's supposed to represent this entire nation.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

I honestly don't think it matters if Duterte is polite or not. What matters more is that he gets the job done. Come to think of it, I'd rather have a president who curses the UN and EU to death but commits to positive change for the country than to have a respectful president that doesn't do anything.

I wouldn't say tens if not hundreds of children dead under the drug policy or as the President calls them "collateral", decreased tourism from South Korea (our 4th largest tourist market) due to a murdered Korean, again under the drug policy, and the fact that terrorist attacks can still happen in downtown Manila as "getting the job done".

[Emperio Maharlika]

I honestly don't think it matters if Duterte is polite or not. What matters more is that he gets the job done. Come to think of it, I'd rather have a president who curses the UN and EU to death but commits to positive change for the country than to have a respectful president that doesn't do anything.

It's one thing to be feared, and another to be ridiculed.
Sure, perhaps his scare tactics worked with drug dealers, but to the more intellectual populace, they lose respect for a man who cusses 24/7 and keeps on presenting this "bravado" personality like he's constantly trying to prove something. See Trump.

[Kovacna]

I honestly don't think it matters if Duterte is polite or not. What matters more is that he gets the job done. Come to think of it, I'd rather have a president who curses the UN and EU to death but commits to positive change for the country than to have a respectful president that doesn't do anything.

the problem isn't that he's impolite; the problem is more that he's so blase about death. he's basically inciting us all not just to rail against the establishment, which i don't agree with but isn't necessarily evil, but to rail against the deepest standards of good and evil by which our society is kept sane. hate against the EU? it might lead to economic ruin, which would destroy your point about "committing to positive change", but sure. ignore all incentives to make this current drug war any less murderous, even if he's not directly responsible for all the deaths? might as well be responsible for those deaths, he's supposed to represent this entire nation.

By positive change I mean change that is beneficial ONLY to the Philippines. That's the only thing that matters: that he serves his country well because Duterte is only answerable to the Filipino people.

"Deepest standards of good and evil?" Don't lecture me about morality and ethics: there is nothing logical with morality unless you talk about a certain actions should be done which would benefit your own country and your own people.

"Hate against the EU?" Negative opinion, that is. The EU needs better leaders, not the Philippines. The EU can't even answer the cultural jihad that's spreading in their nations and they come here lecturing us about "human rights" while they seem to be okay with ithe free movement of pedophile "refugees". Place leaders like Le Pen, Wilders, Farage, Orbán, Hofer and Petry in those EU countries, and not replace Duterte in the Philippines.

The deaths are mostly caused by people who resist arrest: they should know that they should not resist arrest and instead surrender to the police. If they don't surrender, then it is COMPLETELY LEGAL to shoot them in the name of self-defence. I completely support that notion, and no, Duterte isn't responsible for those killings and he cannot and he has no right to apologize for anyone: he can only apologise for himself.

What Duterte SHOULD change, however, is the policy in which policemen are screened. He should focus more on the corrupt policemen who abuse their power, and not on the current "EJK" exaggeration that the opposition keeps on crying about. EJK here isn't as big as they make it look like. Another thing I believe that he should fix is the economic growth and the flow of investments in the country, as well as the Transportation/Internet in the country. No, it's not about his tirades, but it's about knowing how and who he should negotiate and appoach certain countries through an independent foreign policy.