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Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:43 pm**

Associate professor of politics and global studies at Drexel, George Ciccariello-Maher, decided to celebrate Christmas by deriding white people, as is a favoured passed time of many American social science professors these days. Except this time he decided to go no filter mode and just outright stated "all I want for Christmas is white genocide."
The professor went on to claim that he was merely mocking the idea of white genocide, which is in fact an imaginary concept, because white isn't a race. Except further confusion was added as he also applauded when "whites were massacred" during the Haitian Revolution:

Regarding this massacre, wikipedia reminds us that "squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] ".

After the University makes a statement claiming that those tweets were utterly reprehensible, the professor responds that everyone is just lacking proper context, and that his obvious flamebait is completely fine because of what is, to most people, undisclosed and ambiguous said context - which doesn't really explain his Haiti tweet, and is a different defence to claiming that the white race simply doesn't exist.

What are your thoughts on this situation, how should Drexel university handle this matter?

Link with more neutral summary

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:45 pm**

Looks like somebody is gonna need to polish up their LinkedIn.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:45 pm**

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:47 pm**

It's kinda like saying the Nazis killing the Jews was good, it's one thing to do ironically with friends or family, not something you make public.

The lesson to be learned? Twitter is for pointless nonsense, not politics. (That includes you Trump!)

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:47 pm**

Someone must have been getting into the holiday spirit in a big way.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:49 pm**

Remember, whites can't be discriminated against.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:50 pm**

Dipshit professor says stupid shit on stupid social media platform.

Gets called out for it.

Then retracts and says that he was merely acting retarded.

then says another retarded thing.

Man.

College is fucking awesome.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:53 pm**

Let's be honest here: If I was saying "All I want for Christmas is a black genocide" I would have my twitter account closed immediately and I would be prosecuted for hate speech. The fact that this guy is being protected by thousands of keyboard Red Army troops and denying White Genocide as fiction as a point why we shouldn't take offense is the real danger that is happening, not some kind of self-loathing imbecile that is calling himself a communist while he looks down upon a certain race over the other and having a hatred for working class nationalists.

To be honest, people like him made me 'quit' communism some time ago. I cannot believe you can consider yourself a communist or a marxist while you hold such a deep hatred for a certain race, whether they were historically oppressors or not.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:54 pm**

We live in a world now where our political leaders 'focus test' their shitty ideas on Twitter and in speeches and when people go, "Holy shit that's a terrible idea" they just say "They were joking...why are you so serious?"

Ever since the bar for "I'm joking" has gotten so low I'm at a loss to get up in arms about something an associate professor said somewhere.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:00 pm**

Cannot think of a name wrote:We live in a world now where our political leaders 'focus test' their shitty ideas on Twitter and in speeches and when people go, "Holy shit that's a terrible idea" they just say "They were joking...why are you so serious?"

Ever since the bar for "I'm joking" has gotten so low I'm at a loss to get up in arms about something an associate professor said somewhere.

They're only allowed to cop out with "It was just a joke!" if they're Republican-leaning.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:02 pm**

Cannot think of a name wrote:We live in a world now where our political leaders 'focus test' their shitty ideas on Twitter and in speeches and when people go, "Holy shit that's a terrible idea" they just say "They were joking...why are you so serious?"

Ever since the bar for "I'm joking" has gotten so low I'm at a loss to get up in arms about something an associate professor said somewhere.

But this associate professor somewhere was talking about white people!

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:09 pm**

Gauthier wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:We live in a world now where our political leaders 'focus test' their shitty ideas on Twitter and in speeches and when people go, "Holy shit that's a terrible idea" they just say "They were joking...why are you so serious?"

Ever since the bar for "I'm joking" has gotten so low I'm at a loss to get up in arms about something an associate professor said somewhere.

They're only allowed to cop out with "It was just a joke!" if they're Republican-leaning.

We brits have the same thing except we say "it's just banter" - perhaps the university should fire him, and when asked to justify it they can say it's just a bit of banter, or that he was fired ironically.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:10 pm**

Ifreann wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:We live in a world now where our political leaders 'focus test' their shitty ideas on Twitter and in speeches and when people go, "Holy shit that's a terrible idea" they just say "They were joking...why are you so serious?"

Ever since the bar for "I'm joking" has gotten so low I'm at a loss to get up in arms about something an associate professor said somewhere.

But this associate professor somewhere was talking about white people!

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:10 pm**

Hydesland wrote:
Gauthier wrote:They're only allowed to cop out with "It was just a joke!" if they're Republican-leaning.

We brits have the same thing except we say "it's just banter" - perhaps the university should fire him, and when asked to justify it they can say it's just a bit of banter, or that he was fired ironically.

That would be hilarious and it has my full support.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:11 pm**

So a racist person, not particularly surprising. I could care less if he was fired, I'd rather he wasn't, instead I'd like him to be dealt with by society; in which I mean social scorn.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:12 pm**

He should be sacked as an example to anyone who would promote such nonsense against anyone in the future.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:17 pm**

Gauthier wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:We live in a world now where our political leaders 'focus test' their shitty ideas on Twitter and in speeches and when people go, "Holy shit that's a terrible idea" they just say "They were joking...why are you so serious?"

Ever since the bar for "I'm joking" has gotten so low I'm at a loss to get up in arms about something an associate professor said somewhere.

They're only allowed to cop out with "It was just a joke!" if they're Republican-leaning.

Except, this retard did it...right here...

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:17 pm**

Were a professor to call for a genocide against [x] category, even if claiming to have done so only in some hamhanded ironic manner, they'd likely be canned. Seems like such applies in this case as well.

No criminal punishment is suitable, though. Freeze peach and all that fruit.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:18 pm**

Gauthier wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:We live in a world now where our political leaders 'focus test' their shitty ideas on Twitter and in speeches and when people go, "Holy shit that's a terrible idea" they just say "They were joking...why are you so serious?"

Ever since the bar for "I'm joking" has gotten so low I'm at a loss to get up in arms about something an associate professor said somewhere.

They're only allowed to cop out with "It was just a joke!" if they're Republican-leaning.

Both sides are using this argument.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:21 pm**

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:So a racist person, not particularly surprising. I could care less if he was fired, I'd rather he wasn't, instead I'd like him to be dealt with by society; in which I mean social scorn.

Being sacked is the best type of social scorn.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:23 pm**

Brachauland wrote:
Gauthier wrote:They're only allowed to cop out with "It was just a joke!" if they're Republican-leaning.

Both sides are using this argument.

Except this cat has the ability to fractionally effect the GPA of a handful of students at a specific college...I mean, can you imagine?

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:23 pm**

Minzerland II wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:So a racist person, not particularly surprising. I could care less if he was fired, I'd rather he wasn't, instead I'd like him to be dealt with by society; in which I mean social scorn.

Being sacked is the best type of social scorn.

Being brought up forever as "That one professor who wants to kill whitey" will probably limit his ability to make friends and influence people.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:24 pm**

I suspect he's being purposefully glib. There's certainly an argument to be made that had Dessalines not massacred the whites the Haitian Revolution would have ultimately failed, for example, but I doubt anyone would call it 'good' in and of itself.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:29 pm**

Ifreann wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Being sacked is the best type of social scorn.

Being brought up forever as "That one professor who wants to kill whitey" will probably limit his ability to make friends and influence people.

If he could adequately perform his job and duties, to the best of his abilities of course, I'd have little-to-no problem with employing him, regardless of what he's said in the past; however, most people and I don't see eye-to-eye on this matter, and I'd likely be ostracized myself.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:30 pm**

Cannot think of a name wrote:We live in a world now where our political leaders 'focus test' their shitty ideas on Twitter and in speeches and when people go, "Holy shit that's a terrible idea" they just say "They were joking...why are you so serious?"

Ever since the bar for "I'm joking" has gotten so low I'm at a loss to get up in arms about something an associate professor said somewhere.

It's Schrodinger's Offense: any controversial or baiting statement is a joke based on how much said statement offends people.

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Drexel professor "ironically" promotes 'white genocide'

Drexel professor "ironically" promotes 'white genocide'