Drexel professor "ironically" promotes 'white genocide'

[Alvecia]

Because they haven't.

nope
http://www.academia.org/self-identifyin ... rofessors/

No.

[Tahar Joblis]

The massacre which used mass rape, in which a male general ordered that women who wouldn't submit to forced marriage with his men be killed.

When put into context, it was quite normal and to be expected. Haiti was the only country in world history at that point, which was founded as part of a successful slave rebellion and specifically ruled by Blacks and former slaves.

Point one: "Normal" and "to be expected" stands in contradiction to uniqueness. You cannot point to a litany of cases where slave rebellions succeeded in establishing a new state because they exterminated all the people of the ownership "class" (construed broadly) or failed because they did not.

However, we can point to key factors that could easily be removed, which would have prevented the genocide; which in turn establish that the genocide was not in any way an inevitable outcome of the rebellion, or a normal outcome of the process of rebellion particular to Haiti. The massacre was imposed from the top down by a key leader, who issued the order to kill all the whites, who then had to go from place to place within Haiti to have those orders followed out. It was not a "natural" action in terms of social behavior. It was a systematic and intentional act of brutality.

There was a fear that if the Whites were allowed to leave, that they would lobby foreign powers to invade Haiti and reimpose the system of plantation slavery they had abolished.

As opposed to what actually happened, which is that a force to reconquer Haiti showed up a generation later and was satisfied by a ruinous cash tribute (which had been more or less negotiated ten years earlier)?

Haiti's White population were in a no win situation and only select groups of them were spared of the ones that didn't manage to leave, after the great majority of Whites were already killed off as an act of political necessity and vengeance from Jean-Jacques Dessalines' perspective.

"Political necessity" from his perspective. Not even from the general perspective of most of the Haitian population.

American slave owners in the southern states, would use what happened in Haiti to justify their continuation of slavery and brutality towards slaves.

By carrying out a genocidal massacre, Dessalines helped insure the continuity and survival of the plantation system in the United States. Poor whites who weren't wealthy enough to have slaves had no stake in the slave-owning system ... except for three things.

(1) The hope that they might become rich whites some day, and then having slaves would make them even richer.
(2) The faint reassurance that their own lot could be worse.
(3) If you let the blacks out from under your thumb, they'll rape and murder all the white people. Like in Haiti.

If anything, the brutality of the genocide was an obstacle to political recognition as well as an obstacle to the end of slavery elsewhere.

Unlike in Haiti, Whites were the predominate majority in the US south and back then, many thought nothing of casually having Blacks abused or lynched for any perceived slight. White supremacy was the law both de jure and de facto in US southern states. Only native Americans were regarded as even lesser beings, if not confined to a reservation.

The issues between the natives and the settlers of European stock was one not so much coded by actual racial identity as culture. There was quite a bit of intermarriage and cultural conversion.

[PaNTuXIa]

nope
http://www.academia.org/self-identifyin ... rofessors/

No.

"no" isn't an argument.

[Jumhuriyah Hindustan]

Because they haven't.

nope
http://www.academia.org/self-identifyin ... rofessors/

"self identifying marxists" =/= marxists

[PaNTuXIa]

nope
http://www.academia.org/self-identifyin ... rofessors/

"self identifying marxists" =/= marxists

What?

[Alvecia]

No.

"no" isn't an argument.

It wasn't meant to be, it was a rejection of your premise and "evidence".

[Jumhuriyah Hindustan]

"self identifying marxists" =/= marxists

What?

i meant most of them know jackshit about marxism/communism in general. don't put us in the same category as these SJWs

[MERIZoC]

This is probably the maddest I've been in a long time. He isn't "ironically" saying it. He actually believes it. He said that the genocide of whites in Haiti was good, and unsurprisingly, he's a communist. How can the left say that Marxists haven't infiltrated our universities?

It's always great when the right complains about a left-wing tilt in academia.

[Insaeldor]

This is probably the maddest I've been in a long time. He isn't "ironically" saying it. He actually believes it. He said that the genocide of whites in Haiti was good, and unsurprisingly, he's a communist. How can the left say that Marxists haven't infiltrated our universities?

You can easily say this stuff in an ironic way, now putting it on twitter without the needed context makes it easy to misinterpret but you can say this shit ironically. I'd also like to see where you got the information that he's a Marxist. While I don't don't disagree with the general idea that the far-left is unnaturally highly represented in acidemia just saying he's a Marxist because he's a professor is pretty dubious.

[New Scario]

This is probably the maddest I've been in a long time. He isn't "ironically" saying it. He actually believes it. He said that the genocide of whites in Haiti was good, and unsurprisingly, he's a communist. How can the left say that Marxists haven't infiltrated our universities?

You can easily say this stuff in an ironic way, now putting it on twitter without the needed context makes it easy to misinterpret but you can say this shit ironically. I'd also like to see where you got the information that he's a Marxist. While I don't don't disagree with the general idea that the far-left is unnaturally highly represented in acidemia just saying he's a Marxist because he's a professor is pretty dubious.

Well..

To clarify: when the whites were massacred during the Haitian revolution, that was a good thing indeed.

[New Werpland]

Because they haven't.

nope
http://www.academia.org/self-identifyin ... rofessors/

So do you want affirmative action for conservatives?

[Squidysquid]

denying White Genocide as fiction

White Genocide is fiction. It is utterly ridiculous.

[Insaeldor]

You can easily say this stuff in an ironic way, now putting it on twitter without the needed context makes it easy to misinterpret but you can say this shit ironically. I'd also like to see where you got the information that he's a Marxist. While I don't don't disagree with the general idea that the far-left is unnaturally highly represented in acidemia just saying he's a Marxist because he's a professor is pretty dubious.

Well..

To clarify: when the whites were massacred during the Haitian revolution, that was a good thing indeed.

No I know what he tweeted. But if it was done in jest then where is the claim that he is a Marxist coming from? If I said "To clarify: when the Jews we massacred during the final solution, that was a good thing indeed" doesn't mean I'm anti-Semitic nor a Neo-Nazi if it's done in jest. I'm asking for evidence to the claim of him being a Marxist.

[New Scario]

denying White Genocide as fiction

White Genocide is fiction. It is utterly ridiculous.

Thats pushing it, given he himself provided cases where whites were hunted down and massacred.
His excuse is is that "whites arent a race"

[Insaeldor]

White Genocide is fiction. It is utterly ridiculous.

Thats pushing it, given he himself provided cases where whites were hunted down and massacred.
His excuse is is that "whites arent a race"

That must mean Black are a not a race, the more you know!"

[Alvecia]

White Genocide is fiction. It is utterly ridiculous.

Thats pushing it, given he himself provided cases where whites were hunted down and massacred.
His excuse is is that "whites arent a race"

I think the definition of genocide is sufficiently vague to there that there probably have been white genocides

[New Scario]

Thats pushing it, given he himself provided cases where whites were hunted down and massacred.
His excuse is is that "whites arent a race"

That must mean Black are a not a race, the more you know!"

It was from his official released statement, which only makes the whole situation worse. Man just needs to shut up and weather the storm until the news cycle picks up another story.

[New Scario]

Thats pushing it, given he himself provided cases where whites were hunted down and massacred.
His excuse is is that "whites arent a race"

I think the definition of genocide is sufficiently vague to there that there probably have been white genocides

In Africa regarding the slaughter of people who were ancestors of European colonialists based off the fact they were white, yes.
In the US? No.
Killing is killing. Race mixing isn't killing.

[The Twelve Isles]

Honestly, this is a stupid thing to say, but why should I care?

Im white, but it doesn't affect me in any negative way. And by drawing attention to it, all we're doing is giving the statement more power than it deserves, for better or for worse. Its a stupid comment, and his excuse that it was a joke is a shitty excuse, but it is ultimately a pointless tweet that hasnt hurt anyone. Point being, this is a retarded thing to get up in arms about, and I have better things to do with my time.

[Novorossitov]

Isn't the retar-I mean, professor white? I don't believe for a minute it's a joke, but if the guy's white then who cares? And if he's not then Drexel should drop him. Everyone can be racist, and people who believe otherwise just want justification that whites are the worst thing to exist.

[Squidysquid]

White Genocide is fiction. It is utterly ridiculous.

Thats pushing it, given he himself provided cases where whites were hunted down and massacred.
His excuse is is that "whites arent a race"

White Genocide, as pushed by the alt-right, if that whites will no longer exist do to interracial marriages.

[New Scario]

Thats pushing it, given he himself provided cases where whites were hunted down and massacred.
His excuse is is that "whites arent a race"

White Genocide, as pushed by the alt-right, if that whites will no longer exist do to interracial marriages.

The actual concept of genocide or systematic killing of a race perpetrated against whites has occurred in small fashions in parts of the world.
It's happened.

White Genocide via intermixing is BS.
Thats a natural product of globalization.

[Gauthier]

You reap what you sow.

What did the children sow that got them killed?

They were born. *nod*

[Novus America]

Thats pushing it, given he himself provided cases where whites were hunted down and massacred.
His excuse is is that "whites arent a race"

White Genocide, as pushed by the alt-right, if that whites will no longer exist do to interracial marriages.

According to some identifying as alt right sure. But this professor talked not about that, but an actual white genocide where whites were hacked to death for machetes just for being white.

Interracial marriage is NOT genocide.
But hacking white people to death with machetes just for being white IS genocide.

This professor advocated the latter.

[Squidysquid]

White Genocide, as pushed by the alt-right, if that whites will no longer exist do to interracial marriages.

According to some identifying as alt right sure. But this professor talked not about that, but an actual white genocide where whites were hacked to death for machetes just for being white.

Interracial marriage is NOT genocide.
But hacking white people to death with machetes just for being white IS genocide.

Yeah see I get that (though that hasn't really happened that much in recent years