Banning the swastika = religious discrimination?

[HMS Vanguard]

Naziism is just a defeated foreign enemy that no one really adhered to in our countries even when it was serious. It's like banning Ba'athi party symbols (which is why swastikas aren't banned in the US or UK).

Eh, if you look at it like that. There is some more radical centrism popping up, though, and the alt-right. Not Nazis, per say, but are easily becoming the more extreme side of American politics.

The alt-right programme is almost identical to that of FDR, the US's war leader in WWII. Might as well ban this flag:

[Herrebrugh]

So we should just think in absolutes? All or nothing? That lacks any real logic. But sure, what ever you say.

Yes, yes we should think in Absolutes now, because the "New Left" has polarized itself so heavily there is nothing left but absolutes; the times they are a changin' is applicable in this circumstance. Potentially rational thinking "old left" remnants like yourself are swiftly becoming the exception, not the rule.

"Because other people aren't thinking rationally, neither should we!"

Great logic there, m80.

[HMS Vanguard]

Nazi swastika is not the same as Hinduism/Buddhism/Jainism swastika. The targets of these laws are the Nazi swastika.

However, beacuse the Nazis are bunch of assholes, the swastika is so unpopular that these groups have mostly no problem ditching the swastika.

Also, Brazil has it in law that you can't "To manufacture, commercialize, distribute or transport symbols, emblems, ornaments, badges or advertisements that use the swastika or swastika, for the purpose of spreading Nazism"

tl;dr

No it isn't religious discrimination.

That was not their opinion. Their argument was that the swastika is a pre-Christian symbol of the Aryan race and religion, of which Hinduism is the truest surviving remnant. It was literally the Hindu swastika.

[Jumhuriyah Hindustan]

no you see he said "I will do it" when i said not to start that shit

also yes believing any religion is 'satanic' is genuinely fucked up

i myself am a critic of many things in islam christianity hinduism etc etc but going so far as to call them 'satanic' and 'cults' is waaay too much

Your feels are contrary to the truth.

ditto

[Mattopilos]

So we should just think in absolutes? All or nothing? That lacks any real logic. But sure, what ever you say.

Yes, yes we should think in Absolutes now, because the "New Left" has polarized itself so heavily there is nothing left but absolutes; the times they are a changin' is applicable in this circumstance. Potentially rational thinking "old left" remnants like yourself are swiftly becoming the exception, not the rule.

And the alt-right, but I guess we should just ignore them, because they aren't leftists. We get it, you are right-wing. I would hardly say I am an old remnant, given I am post-left, but whatever you say, dixie. To throw cation and logic into the wind because "da left are gonna get us!?!?!" is pretty absurd.

[Mattopilos]

Eh, if you look at it like that. There is some more radical centrism popping up, though, and the alt-right. Not Nazis, per say, but are easily becoming the more extreme side of American politics.

The alt-right programme is almost identical to that of FDR, the US's war leader in WWII. Might as well ban this flag:

Strawmen, strawmen everywhere. Where on earth did I argue banning it? I didn't even argue banning the Swastika.

[HMS Vanguard]

The alt-right programme is almost identical to that of FDR, the US's war leader in WWII. Might as well ban this flag:

Strawmen, strawmen everywhere. Where on earth did I argue banning it? I didn't even argue banning the Swastika.

Regardless, the American alt-right has nothing much to do with Naziism. The programme of Trump is the programme of FDR, Hitler's most dangerous enemy.

[Festung Mittelwesten]

Your feels are contrary to the truth.

ditto

Erm, no, actually.

[Mattopilos]

Strawmen, strawmen everywhere. Where on earth did I argue banning it? I didn't even argue banning the Swastika.

Regardless, the American alt-right has nothing much to do with Naziism. The programme of Trump is the programme of FDR, Hitler's most dangerous enemy.

Note where I said:

Eh, if you look at it like that. There is some more radical centrism popping up, though, and the alt-right. Not Nazis, per say, but are easily becoming the more extreme side of American politics.

I said they are becoming the more extreme side of the right, not that they are Nazis.

[HMS Vanguard]

Regardless, the American alt-right has nothing much to do with Naziism. The programme of Trump is the programme of FDR, Hitler's most dangerous enemy.

Note where I said:

Eh, if you look at it like that. There is some more radical centrism popping up, though, and the alt-right. Not Nazis, per say, but are easily becoming the more extreme side of American politics.

I said they are becoming the more extreme side of the right, not that they are Nazis.

They're the extreme side of the American right, perhaps, which goes to show that America doesn't have any kind of a Nazi problem.

[Zombie Swarms]

As I stated before, I think, that swastika should be returned back as peace symbol and smh. However, NAZI swastika still should be not allowed to use.

[Mattopilos]

As I stated before, I think, that swastika should be returned back as peace symbol and smh. However, NAZI swastika still should be not allowed to use.

Exactly. Nuance is needed on an issue like this.

[Dilordaopia]

DOUBLE KEK

How bigoted and racist of you.

ULTIMATE KEK.

I know, but Slavs and Balts have very similar patterns.

Yeah, I know. And Estonian patterns might be very similar too.

aren't Estonians also Balts?

[Dilordaopia]

Eh, if you look at it like that. There is some more radical centrism popping up, though, and the alt-right. Not Nazis, per say, but are easily becoming the more extreme side of American politics.

The alt-right programme is almost identical to that of FDR, the US's war leader in WWII. Might as well ban this flag:

Yep, since it also represents discrimination.

[Yugoslav Memes]

As I stated before, I think, that swastika should be returned back as peace symbol and smh. However, NAZI swastika still should be not allowed to use.

The problem comes when they don't identify themselves as nazis and the line gets blurred again

[United Dixieland Territories]

Balderdash & poppycock, nuance is out the window now. Consider just how many "Classical Liberals" have jumped ship over to the traditionally "Republican" and "Right leaning" conservatism based organizations. The New Left is here, and it is here to try and enforce an Orwellian dystopia upon us all. And worst of all, it will try to do so with a smug and conniving smile.

Shit. You uncovered our dastardly plan.

*twirls moustache*

Of course I've uncovered it you closeted tankie, with the trend of political correctness and the blatant intention to force a "Kulturkampf" as some German students once called it during the late 1800s. These insidious people cannot be allowed to gain anymore footholds; they must be resisted and pushed back against when & where possible to hold back the mind-numbingly self-destructive policies that seem to be propping that naive notion of "White guilt", all slowly boiling down to create some form of obscene self fulfilling prophecy.

[HMS Vanguard]

As I stated before, I think, that swastika should be returned back as peace symbol and smh. However, NAZI swastika still should be not allowed to use.

There's no evidence it originated as a "peace symbol". It is an ancient symbol of the Aryan peoples who conquered India and Europe, an extent of conquest that seems to belie peaceful intent.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Nazi swastika is not the same as Hinduism/Buddhism/Jainism swastika. The targets of these laws are the Nazi swastika.

However, beacuse the Nazis are bunch of assholes, the swastika is so unpopular that these groups have mostly no problem ditching the swastika.

Also, Brazil has it in law that you can't "To manufacture, commercialize, distribute or transport symbols, emblems, ornaments, badges or advertisements that use the swastika or swastika, for the purpose of spreading Nazism"

tl;dr

No it isn't religious discrimination.

That was not their opinion. Their argument was that the swastika is a pre-Christian symbol of the Aryan race and religion, of which Hinduism is the truest surviving remnant. It was literally the Hindu swastika.

Yes it was.

Welp, governments easily go full retard. Germany and Austria banned the Swastika after WW2, but this has never been complained about by anyone. Why? Because it seems that all the religions that use it are irrelevant.

[HMS Vanguard]

That was not their opinion. Their argument was that the swastika is a pre-Christian symbol of the Aryan race and religion, of which Hinduism is the truest surviving remnant. It was literally the Hindu swastika.

Yes it was.

Welp, governments easily go full retard. Germany and Austria banned the Swastika after WW2, but this has never been complained about by anyone. Why? Because it seems that all the religions that use it are irrelevant.

That post doesn't say anything about how the Nazis viewed the swastika, and even if it did some NSG poster's opinion would not be a persuasive source.

[Dilordaopia]

As I stated before, I think, that swastika should be returned back as peace symbol and smh. However, NAZI swastika still should be not allowed to use.

There's no evidence it originated as a "peace symbol". It is an ancient symbol of the Aryan peoples who conquered India and Europe, an extent of conquest that seems to belie peaceful intent.

The word swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means “good fortune” or “well-being."

[HMS Vanguard]

There's no evidence it originated as a "peace symbol". It is an ancient symbol of the Aryan peoples who conquered India and Europe, an extent of conquest that seems to belie peaceful intent.

The word swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means “good fortune” or “well-being."

And?

[Mattopilos]

Shit. You uncovered our dastardly plan.

*twirls moustache*

Of course I've uncovered it you closeted tankie, with the trend of political correctness and the blatant intention to force a "Kulturkampf" as some German students once called it during the late 1800s. These insidious people cannot be allowed to gain anymore footholds; they must be resisted and pushed back against when & where possible to hold back the mind-numbingly self-destructive policies that seem to be propping that naive notion of "White guilt", all slowly boiling down to create some form of obscene self fulfilling prophecy.

Personal attacks be classy this time of year.
Also loves their buzzwords. PC and anti-PC both suck. They both want to restrict what is said in different ways.
And if that is the view you hold of the left, don't expect us to hold back and not push back. As a song said I was listening to:

Don't believe what the pacifist tells you: No war, no peace

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Don't act like you are the pure side. That is just sad.

[Dilordaopia]

The word swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means “good fortune” or “well-being."

And?

That means it didn't originate from a fucking war symbol

[HMS Vanguard]

And?

That means it didn't originate from a fucking war symbol

I didn't say it did, only that there is no evidence it is a peace symbol.

You can wish good fortune to a conquering army, well-being to a general or an aggressive nation.

The Indo-Aryans, who created the swastika, conquered most of their known world.

[Dilordaopia]

That means it didn't originate from a fucking war symbol

I didn't say it did, only that there is no evidence it is a peace symbol.

You can wish good fortune to a conquering army, well-being to a general or an aggressive nation.

The Indo-Aryans, who created the swastika, conquered most of their known world.

Ah, sorry then.
Still shouldn't be banned though.