Banning the swastika = religious discrimination?

[Dilordaopia]

Welp, governments easily go full retard. Germany and Austria banned the Swastika after WW2, but this has never been complained about by anyone. Why? Because it seems that all the religions that use it are irrelevant.

LAS VEGAS, July 16 – Following a July 14 press conference held by Long Island, N.Y. rabbis and local politicians seeking a legal ban on public displays of the swastika – including banners featuring the symbol that were flown by the ProSwastika Alliance over public beaches last week – the Alliance countered today with its own statement.

“The non-Nazi-associated swastika has been revered for millennia by cultures worldwide as a symbol of peace and good will,” said Thomas Kaenzig, Raelian Guide and president of the alliance. “It’s found in thousands of temples and monuments across Asia, in the United States in pre-Nazi-era historical sites, and even in century-old sites in Israel. In fact, the swastika had only positive meanings since ancient times until the Nazis dragged it through the mud. My organization’s mission is to restore the original, positive meanings of this symbol and permanently eliminate its association with 20th century thugs.”

http://www.proswastika.org/news.php?extend.607

To me, this seems like religious discrimination.
You shouldn't associate a religious symbol with hate because the Nazi's stole it.

What is your opinion NSG?

[New Vlada]

wow
way to go
extremism

[Dilordaopia]

wow
way to go
extremism

what

[Rhomaia]

Oh, hell, how many damn times has this come up? It doesn't matter if it was once a symbol of peace, after it's been warped into something so hateful and irrevocably associated with the Nazis people tend to take offense to it. You know, what with 6 million dead because of it. But hey, that's just me.

[Dilordaopia]

Oh, hell, how many damn times has this come up? It doesn't matter if it was once a symbol of peace, after it's been warped into something so hateful and irrevocably associated with the Nazis people tend to take offense to it. You know, what with 6 million dead because of it. But hey, that's just me.

You do know that if you ban a peaceful religious symbol that means you're discriminating against AN ENTIRE FUCKING PEOPLE, right?

[Scandinavian Nations]

You do know that if you ban a peaceful religious symbol that means you're discriminating against AN ENTIRE FUCKING PEOPLE, right?

So... it doesn't apply if the symbol is not peaceful?

[Rhomaia]

Oh, hell, how many damn times has this come up? It doesn't matter if it was once a symbol of peace, after it's been warped into something so hateful and irrevocably associated with the Nazis people tend to take offense to it. You know, what with 6 million dead because of it. But hey, that's just me.

You do know that if you ban a peaceful religious symbol that means you're discriminating against AN ENTIRE FUCKING PEOPLE, right?

What I'm saying is that in the context of the common Westerner's view, it's not a religious symbol. It's become a symbol of racism, fascism, white supremacy, and ironically enough, discrimination. The West doesn't care about what you or the space-cultist Raelians have to say, because ever since Hitler, the status of the swastika as a religious icon is dead.

[Dilordaopia]

You do know that if you ban a peaceful religious symbol that means you're discriminating against AN ENTIRE FUCKING PEOPLE, right?

So... it doesn't apply if the symbol is not peaceful?

It does apply, I just wanted to clarify that it should not be mixed with Nazism.

[Jumhuriyah Hindustan]

yes banning the swastika is religious discrimination

i mean come here to india and we have swastikas painted on floors in temples and shit

that doesn't mean we're nazis

it's not our fault some cunts in germany decided to use our symbols

[Dilordaopia]

You do know that if you ban a peaceful religious symbol that means you're discriminating against AN ENTIRE FUCKING PEOPLE, right?

What I'm saying is that in the context of the common Westerner's view, it's not a religious symbol. It's become a symbol of racism, fascism, white supremacy, and ironically enough, discrimination.

Because the west is the entire world, right?

[The Realist Polities]

1. what religious group needs the swastika? this is a non-issue.

2. the nazi swastika is inverted, the Buddhist one is still used and is backwards from the nazi one

[Dilordaopia]

yes banning the swastika is religious discrimination

i mean come here to india and we have swastikas painted on floors in temples and shit

that doesn't mean we're nazis

it's not our fault some cunts in germany decided to use our symbols

Exactly.

[Great Nepal]

Oh, hell, how many damn times has this come up? It doesn't matter if it was once a symbol of peace, after it's been warped into something so hateful and irrevocably associated with the Nazis people tend to take offense to it. You know, what with 6 million dead because of it. But hey, that's just me.

So if people take offence to something, governments should ban it?

[Conscentia]

The legality of the swastika in Germany is situation dependent, it's not a total ban on the symbol. It's also not the only symbol that law covers.

[Jumhuriyah Hindustan]

1. what religious group needs the swastika? this is a non-issue.

2. the nazi swastika is inverted, the Buddhist one is still used and is backwards from the nazi one

1. us
2. not really you can find swastikas here in the same orientation as the ones used by nazis

[Dilordaopia]

1. what religious group needs the swastika? this is a non-issue.

2. the nazi swastika is inverted, the Buddhist one is still used and is backwards from the nazi one

1. Hinduism
2. Hindu swastika's are also inverted.
Here's a list of swastika using peoples.

[Rhomaia]

What I'm saying is that in the context of the common Westerner's view, it's not a religious symbol. It's become a symbol of racism, fascism, white supremacy, and ironically enough, discrimination.

Because the west is the entire world, right?

Did I say the West was the entire world? No. No I did not. The context of the article is the status of the swastika in the West, therefore I am simply applying logic of why the West does not like the swastika.

[Dilordaopia]

The legality of the swastika in Germany is situation dependent, it's not a total ban on the symbol. It's also not the only symbol that law covers.

Rabbi's are calling for complete banning so even if its not a complete ban that doesn't change the fact that this is very hypocritical.

[Rhomaia]

Oh, hell, how many damn times has this come up? It doesn't matter if it was once a symbol of peace, after it's been warped into something so hateful and irrevocably associated with the Nazis people tend to take offense to it. You know, what with 6 million dead because of it. But hey, that's just me.

So if people take offence to something, governments should ban it?

Never did I say that. It's a rationale for the banning of a symbol, as the Austrians and Germans did, but I'm fairly sure it's been limited to them.

Again, you don't see me calling for a worldwide ban of it. I'm just saying Germany, Austria, and the Western countries hold negative views of it for a reason.

[Dilordaopia]

Because the west is the entire world, right?

Did I say the West was the entire world? No. No I did not. The context of the article is the status of the swastika in the West, therefore I am simply applying logic of why the West does not like the swastika.

Ah, correct.
Though, I can associate a thousand things with hate, lets take the Croatian Checkerboard/Chessboard for example.
The Ustase used it in WWII, but it has been a Croatian symbol for a long time and not a symbol of genocide.
Does this mean that their national symbols should be banned?

[Rhomaia]

Did I say the West was the entire world? No. No I did not. The context of the article is the status of the swastika in the West, therefore I am simply applying logic of why the West does not like the swastika.

Ah, correct.
Though, I can associate a thousand things with hate, lets take the Croatian Checkerboard/Chessboard for example.
The Ustase used it in WWII, but it has been a Croatian symbol for a long time and not a symbol of genocide.
Does this mean that their national symbols should be banned?

...Circlejerk, eh?

I'm not calling for bans here. I don't need to restate myself thrice, do I? I just came to point something out, I'll show myself the door.

[Festung Mittelwesten]

But it's fine to have this.

[Imperializt Russia]

Welp, governments easily go full retard. Germany and Austria banned the Swastika after WW2, but this has never been complained about by anyone. Why? Because it seems that all the religions that use it are irrelevant.

LAS VEGAS, July 16 – Following a July 14 press conference held by Long Island, N.Y. rabbis and local politicians seeking a legal ban on public displays of the swastika – including banners featuring the symbol that were flown by the ProSwastika Alliance over public beaches last week – the Alliance countered today with its own statement.

“The non-Nazi-associated swastika has been revered for millennia by cultures worldwide as a symbol of peace and good will,” said Thomas Kaenzig, Raelian Guide and president of the alliance. “It’s found in thousands of temples and monuments across Asia, in the United States in pre-Nazi-era historical sites, and even in century-old sites in Israel. In fact, the swastika had only positive meanings since ancient times until the Nazis dragged it through the mud. My organization’s mission is to restore the original, positive meanings of this symbol and permanently eliminate its association with 20th century thugs.”

http://www.proswastika.org/news.php?extend.607

To me, this seems like religious discrimination.
You shouldn't associate a religious symbol with hate because the Nazi's stole it.

What is your opinion NSG?

You can't exactly blame them for assuming that swastika banners being flown in the US is probably flying the actual Nazi Hakenkreuz.

[Dilordaopia]

But it's fine to have this.

Exactly.

[Dilordaopia]

Welp, governments easily go full retard. Germany and Austria banned the Swastika after WW2, but this has never been complained about by anyone. Why? Because it seems that all the religions that use it are irrelevant.

http://www.proswastika.org/news.php?extend.607

To me, this seems like religious discrimination.
You shouldn't associate a religious symbol with hate because the Nazi's stole it.

What is your opinion NSG?

You can't exactly blame them for assuming that swastika banners being flown in the US is probably flying the actual Nazi Hakenkreuz.

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