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What Denomination are You?

Sunni
132
28%
Sunni (Sufi)
31
7%
Sunni (Salafi)
26
6%
Ithna'ashari/Twelver Shi'a
30
6%
Other Shi'a
15
3%
Ibadi
13
3%
Ahmadiyya
11
2%
Qur'anist
17
4%
Nondenominational
50
11%
Other
145
31%
 
Total votes : 470

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Jochizyd Republic
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:05 am

Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?


Yes, I approve.

Okay, so, not that I approve of American Interventionalism...but why should we feel sorry if you get exactly what you did done right back at you?
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Itoshiki
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Postby Itoshiki » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:05 am

Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?


Yes, I approve.

Glad it has been clarified. :)
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Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?

Yes, I approve.

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Islamic Government
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Postby Islamic Government » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:05 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:Joch the Sufi is happy about Muslim innocents (women included) getting raped by Americans in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib.

I'll leave that to the readers.

*sob* oh no, poor little Wahhabis.

To be fair. The American Occupation was unjustified. Brutality towards Wahhabis is always a source of schadenfreude


You first say we "Wahhabis" are Muslims (i.e. your brothers) and then you say we deserve to die badly.

You are either confused or ignorant.
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Itoshiki
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Postby Itoshiki » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:06 am

IDT used to be so much better back then. It was practically one of the best, most civil threads in NSG.
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Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?

Yes, I approve.

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Islamic Government
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Postby Islamic Government » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:07 am

Joch the Sufi says innocent women and children deserve to be raped and killed by Americans in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib just because they are "Wahhabis".

That's the famous "Sufi tolerance", folks.
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Jochizyd Republic
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:07 am

Islamic Government wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:*sob* oh no, poor little Wahhabis.

To be fair. The American Occupation was unjustified. Brutality towards Wahhabis is always a source of schadenfreude


You first say we "Wahhabis" are Muslims (i.e. your brothers) and then you say we deserve to die badly.

You are either confused or ignorant.

No. ISIS is a perversions of Islam. Perversions of people. Not the same as Non Muslim. but still horrible people.
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Postby Philjia » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:08 am

Islamic Government wrote:Joch the Sufi says innocent women and children deserve to be raped and killed by Americans in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib just because they are "Wahhabis".

That's the famous "Sufi tolerance", folks.


And you have the moral high ground why?
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Jochizyd Republic
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:08 am

Itoshiki wrote:IDT used to be so much better back then. It was practically one of the best, most civil threads in NSG.

It's because people let Wahhabis use the internet
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Jochizyd Republic
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:09 am

Islamic Government wrote:Joch the Sufi says innocent women and children deserve to be raped and killed by Americans in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib just because they are "Wahhabis".

That's the famous "Sufi tolerance", folks.

I didn't say women and children deserved to be raped and killed.

I said that Terrorists deserved to die and that I really didn't feel sorry for Khawarij rapists that got raped in jail. Wasn't approving of the act. I just didn't feel sorry for them.
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For The Khan! For The State! For Faith and For Heritage!
Muslim and Tengrist Clerical Fascist State. Not my rl views.

Just Call Me Joch.
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Itoshiki
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Postby Itoshiki » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:11 am

Philjia wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:Joch the Sufi says innocent women and children deserve to be raped and killed by Americans in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib just because they are "Wahhabis".

That's the famous "Sufi tolerance", folks.


And you have the moral high ground why?

Because the women he supports to be raped are satanists duh
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Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?

Yes, I approve.

IRL anime best girl shitposter.

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Islamic Government
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Postby Islamic Government » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:11 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:
Yes, I approve.

Okay, so, not that I approve of American Interventionalism...but why should we feel sorry if you get exactly what you did done right back at you?


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Gondolaulus
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Postby Gondolaulus » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:12 am

Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?


Yes, I approve.

You can stop memeing here man.
Also known as Aulus by some.
I am: Iron Pill, Muslim, native European
PRO: Integralism, Perennialism, Esoterism, Sufism.
ANTI: Salafism, Wahhabism, Daesh, interventionism.

Former history/Catholic theology/philosophy student.
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Itoshiki
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Postby Itoshiki » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:12 am

Gondolaulus wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:
Yes, I approve.

You can stop memeing here man.

Nah, he's fun lol
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Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?

Yes, I approve.

IRL anime best girl shitposter.

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Jochizyd Republic
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:13 am

Islamic Government wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Okay, so, not that I approve of American Interventionalism...but why should we feel sorry if you get exactly what you did done right back at you?


Al-Wala' wal-Bara'?

Why? you never showed any.
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For The Khan! For The State! For Faith and For Heritage!
Muslim and Tengrist Clerical Fascist State. Not my rl views.

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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:16 am

Itoshiki wrote:
Gondolaulus wrote:You can stop memeing here man.

Nah, he's fun lol

He just flamebaits and diverts every conversation while he's on here, advocated murder and terrorism (which the Mods never punish) and then chimps out when people give him a taste of his own medicine..
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The Sons and Daughters of Jochi Ride Out Again!
For The Khan! For The State! For Faith and For Heritage!
Muslim and Tengrist Clerical Fascist State. Not my rl views.

Just Call Me Joch.
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Gondolaulus
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Postby Gondolaulus » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:17 am

Itoshiki wrote:
Gondolaulus wrote:You can stop memeing here man.

Nah, he's fun lol

I don't see the fun in this

Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?


Yes, I approve.


I know Yazidis IRL and seeing this shit on the internet. Nah m8, never again.
Also known as Aulus by some.
I am: Iron Pill, Muslim, native European
PRO: Integralism, Perennialism, Esoterism, Sufism.
ANTI: Salafism, Wahhabism, Daesh, interventionism.

Former history/Catholic theology/philosophy student.
RIP Jochy unjustly deleted defending Islamic pride ☪6-2-2017

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Islamic Government
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Postby Islamic Government » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:19 am

Gondolaulus wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:
Yes, I approve.

You can stop memeing here man.


I see you removed "Classical Pantheist" from your signature after I showed your beliefs have nothing to do with Islam.

You don't even have the guts to admit your kufr.
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Gondolaulus
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Postby Gondolaulus » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:20 am

Islamic Government wrote:
Gondolaulus wrote:You can stop memeing here man.


I see you removed "Classical Pantheist" from your signature after I showed your beliefs have nothing to do with Islam.

You don't even have the guts to admit your kufr.

Oh I can easily add them again tho.
Also known as Aulus by some.
I am: Iron Pill, Muslim, native European
PRO: Integralism, Perennialism, Esoterism, Sufism.
ANTI: Salafism, Wahhabism, Daesh, interventionism.

Former history/Catholic theology/philosophy student.
RIP Jochy unjustly deleted defending Islamic pride ☪6-2-2017

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Itoshiki
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Postby Itoshiki » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:21 am

Gondolaulus wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:Nah, he's fun lol

I don't see the fun in this

Islamic Government wrote:
Yes, I approve.


I know Yazidis IRL and seeing this shit on the internet. Nah m8, never again.

Pretty sure that being the person I am, he'd advocate me ideally to be either pushed down from a tall building or burned alive...depending on the tafsir I suppose.

The remark merely indicates he's not worth being taken seriously here. That said, it's seriously fucked up to think that there are people who think the same as him IRL.
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Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?

Yes, I approve.

IRL anime best girl shitposter.

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Islamic Government
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Postby Islamic Government » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:22 am

Gondolaulus wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:
I see you removed "Classical Pantheist" from your signature after I showed your beliefs have nothing to do with Islam.

You don't even have the guts to admit your kufr.

Oh I can easily add them again tho.


"Hindu-Shia Muslim".

This thread is getting better day by day.
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Postby Gondolaulus » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:24 am

Islamic Government wrote:
Gondolaulus wrote:Oh I can easily add them again tho.


"Hindu-Shia Muslim".

This thread is getting better day by day.

To be fair, this marvelous thing called internet makes us able to express ourselfs however we want. I am really proud it is this way. Only Allah (swt) has the possibility to make mankind so diverse yet equal.
Also known as Aulus by some.
I am: Iron Pill, Muslim, native European
PRO: Integralism, Perennialism, Esoterism, Sufism.
ANTI: Salafism, Wahhabism, Daesh, interventionism.

Former history/Catholic theology/philosophy student.
RIP Jochy unjustly deleted defending Islamic pride ☪6-2-2017

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Postby Islamic Government » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:24 am

Itoshiki wrote:
Gondolaulus wrote:I don't see the fun in this



I know Yazidis IRL and seeing this shit on the internet. Nah m8, never again.

Pretty sure that being the person I am, he'd advocate me ideally to be either pushed down from a tall building or burned alive...depending on the tafsir I suppose.

The remark merely indicates he's not worth being taken seriously here. That said, it's seriously fucked up to think that there are people who think the same as him IRL.


I'm absolutely serious. I already said I don't support freedom, democracy or human rights.
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Itoshiki
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Postby Itoshiki » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:28 am

Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:Pretty sure that being the person I am, he'd advocate me ideally to be either pushed down from a tall building or burned alive...depending on the tafsir I suppose.

The remark merely indicates he's not worth being taken seriously here. That said, it's seriously fucked up to think that there are people who think the same as him IRL.


I'm absolutely serious. I already said I don't support freedom, democracy or human rights.

Oh, I know that you could possibly be serious. All I'm saying is that you're not worth being taken seriously, that is, for us, not that you're not being serious. What common ground can be achieved from discussing with a person who regards wanton brutality as divine ordinance?

You don't support those, you apparently don't support human decency like "don't rape a person", either. There is no agreeable axiom that can be held here.
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Islamic Government wrote:
Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?

Yes, I approve.

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Islamic Government
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Postby Islamic Government » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:29 am

Gondolaulus wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:
"Hindu-Shia Muslim".

This thread is getting better day by day.

To be fair, this marvelous thing called internet makes us able to express ourselfs however we want. I am really proud it is this way. Only Allah (swt) has the possibility to make mankind so diverse yet equal.


Next step "Sikh-Pastafarian-Protestant-Scientologist-Mormon Muslim"?
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Jochizyd Republic
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:30 am

If I am permabanned, Mahdistan should probably be given a shot at being OP again.
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