Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[Jochizyd Republic]

No, I don't. Because that's...factually not who is destroying ISIS right now. Muslim Countries are.

"Muslims countries"? Which "Muslim countries" are you talking about? Which of them is ruling by Shariah Law?

Maybe you mean those zionist puppets who are cooperating with the US-led Coalition against ISIS?

If anything you indirectly support it, seeing that Wahhabis work to divide and corrode the Ummah in the middle east so that Zionists can have a petty state.

Your "logic" just doesn't make sense.

The best thing for Israel is to keep the Ummah divided with borders and puppet dictators. A Khilafah abolishing all the borders and unifying the Ummah from Maghrib to Indonesia would just be the death of Zionism and this is why they fear ISIS so much.

You say that. But you lot really are just another pawn of theirs.

[Itoshiki]

"Muslims countries"? Which "Muslim countries" are you talking about? Which of them is ruling by Shariah Law?

Maybe you mean those zionist puppets who are cooperating with the US-led Coalition against ISIS?




Your "logic" just doesn't make sense.

The best thing for Israel is to keep the Ummah divided with borders and puppet dictators. A Khilafah abolishing all the borders and unifying the Ummah from Maghrib to Indonesia would just be the death of Zionism and this is why they fear ISIS so much.

You say that. But you lot really are just another pawn of theirs.

TIL ZOG is the agreed-upon axiom in Islamic Discussion Thread.

[Islamic Government]

Yazidis can't live under Islamic law. They are satanist pagans.

Actually they're an oddball mix of all three Abrahamic faiths, plus Zoroastrianism.

They worship a “peacock god” known as Melek Taus, also known as Lucifer.

[Itoshiki]

Actually they're an oddball mix of all three Abrahamic faiths, plus Zoroastrianism.

They worship a “peacock god” known as Melek Taus, also known as Lucifer.

Melek Taus isn't known as Lucifer, which is a nonexistent figure in Islamic mythology anyway. Melek Taus is known as Shaytan, and is the benevolent demiurge and chief of the angels with origin legend similar to Iblis in Islam, hence the common association.

[Philjia]

Actually they're an oddball mix of all three Abrahamic faiths, plus Zoroastrianism.

They worship a “peacock god” known as Melek Taus, also known as Lucifer.

Actually Melek Taus is an angel. There is no evidence that Melek Taus is Satan.

[Jochizyd Republic]

And yes. They rule secularly. Which I disagree with personally. But it's preferable to support those which have those following the Sunna and keeping to the Shariah

You first say they are secular and then you say the follow the Sunna and keep to the Shariah. You seem a bit confused.

No, they protect those who do that. So I'll give them that.

"Disorganized rabbles of savages"? These are the same words the Roman Pagans used to describe the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions and army.

Guess what. Those "disorganized rabbles of savages" created a Caliphate who became a world superpower for centuries. We can do it again.

Blasphemy. You'll never be what the Prophet (SAW) was. You wish you can be him.. He was honorable, upstanding and fought for truth and justice.

ISIS is just a bunch of criminals that has no respect, mercy or anything Nabi Muhammad (SAW) had. Cheap, Pathetic, Dying little imitations.

[Islamic Government]

One group of thugs destroyed, another fills the vacuum. Sorry, but that's just how it works. Of course, there's no doubt that the IS is significantly more terrible than the Hezbollah, but they're also less likely to last long anyway, thanks to their radically millennarian message even by Islamist standard. Khamenei now can play his pawns easier than ever after Rafsanjani's death, though maybe it's for the best.

Khameini and the Extremist Shia he supports will be cleansed, as in completely abolished from political and social authority, after the Zionist, Wahhabi and "Islamist" shills. Inshallah.

A Protector of the Ummah is going to emerge in the Middle East. Turkey, Egypt. A reformed Iran. Makes no difference. It's going to happen.

If Salah al-Din Ayyubi had to wait for the Mahdi to appear, the Crusaders would have conquered not only Palestine but also Mecca and Madina.

[Islamic Government]

Blasphemy. You'll never be what the Prophet (SAW) was. You wish you can be him.. He was honorable, upstanding and fought for truth and justice.

ISIS is just a bunch of criminals that has no respect, mercy or anything Nabi Muhammad (SAW) had. Cheap, Pathetic, Dying little imitations.

So you think if the Prophet (saw) was alive today, he would support the USA, Russia and Assad. I think yours is blasphemy.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Actually they're an oddball mix of all three Abrahamic faiths, plus Zoroastrianism.

They worship a “peacock god” known as Melek Taus, also known as Lucifer.

Their Theology is wholly alien, syncretic and completely unislamic. But they don't call themselves Muslims and tend to keep to themselves. I highly doubt they're Satanists. That's mostly a misunderstanding between Muslim and Yazidis.

Either way. Saying they need to convert or die is pretty repulsive.

[Islamic Government]

They worship a “peacock god” known as Melek Taus, also known as Lucifer.

Melek Taus isn't known as Lucifer, which is a nonexistent figure in Islamic mythology anyway. Melek Taus is known as Shaytan, and is the benevolent demiurge and chief of the angels with origin legend similar to Iblis in Islam, hence the common association.

Shaytan is the Arabic word for Satan. Yazidis are satanists. They are not People of the Book by the way.

[Islamic Government]

Either way. Saying they need to convert or die is pretty repulsive.

They are not People of the Book. The only kuffar who can live under Islamic law are the People of the Book. All the others must convert or they can't live in Islamic territory.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Blasphemy. You'll never be what the Prophet (SAW) was. You wish you can be him.. He was honorable, upstanding and fought for truth and justice.

ISIS is just a bunch of criminals that has no respect, mercy or anything Nabi Muhammad (SAW) had. Cheap, Pathetic, Dying little imitations.

So you think if the Prophet (saw) was alive today, he would support the USA, Russia and Assad. I think yours is blasphemy.

I never said that and I highly doubt he would ever support American Foreign Policy, Russia and Assad.

[Philjia]

Khameini and the Extremist Shia he supports will be cleansed, as in completely abolished from political and social authority, after the Zionist, Wahhabi and "Islamist" shills. Inshallah.

A Protector of the Ummah is going to emerge in the Middle East. Turkey, Egypt. A reformed Iran. Makes no difference. It's going to happen.

If Salah al-Din Ayyubi had to wait for the Mahdi to appear, the Crusaders would have conquered not only Palestine but also Mecca and Madina.

If you had actually bothered to read your medieval history you would have noted that Saladin, but the standards of the time, was noted for his generosity, wisdom, and honour, rather than being an unhinged fundamentalist religious zealot.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Khameini and the Extremist Shia he supports will be cleansed, as in completely abolished from political and social authority, after the Zionist, Wahhabi and "Islamist" shills. Inshallah.

A Protector of the Ummah is going to emerge in the Middle East. Turkey, Egypt. A reformed Iran. Makes no difference. It's going to happen.

If Salah al-Din Ayyubi had to wait for the Mahdi to appear, the Crusaders would have conquered not only Palestine but also Mecca and Madina.

Salah al Din also probably would have absolutely despised ISIS as the mohareb they are. Beneath him as well. Given the Weapons and he would probably have wiped the floor with those cockroaches.

[Islamic Government]

If Salah al-Din Ayyubi had to wait for the Mahdi to appear, the Crusaders would have conquered not only Palestine but also Mecca and Madina.

If you had actually bothered to read your medieval history you would have noted that Saladin, but the standards of the time, was noted for his generosity, wisdom, and honour, rather than being an unhinged fundamentalist religious zealot.

It doesn't mean he was the kind of hippie pacifist like you are trying to portrait him.

[Jochizyd Republic]

If you had actually bothered to read your medieval history you would have noted that Saladin, but the standards of the time, was noted for his generosity, wisdom, and honour, rather than being an unhinged fundamentalist religious zealot.

It doesn't mean he was the kind of hippie pacifist like you are trying to portrait him.

I don't think that's what they're saying at all. They were a fighter. And far above the Wahhabis of Today.

Saladin was a Sunni adhering to the Classical Islam that the Wahhabis revise and in many cases throw out because you think it's bid'ah and it doesn't suit your terrorist agenda. He was actually a member of a Sufi Order and followed the Ashari'i school of theology as well, interestingly enough. As most Medieval Sunnis did.

[Philjia]

If you had actually bothered to read your medieval history you would have noted that Saladin, but the standards of the time, was noted for his generosity, wisdom, and honour, rather than being an unhinged fundamentalist religious zealot.

It doesn't mean he was the kind of hippie pacifist like you are trying to portrait him.

Certainly not; he was an empire building conqueror. However, evidence suggests that war crimes weren't generally on his agenda.

[Itoshiki]

Melek Taus isn't known as Lucifer, which is a nonexistent figure in Islamic mythology anyway. Melek Taus is known as Shaytan, and is the benevolent demiurge and chief of the angels with origin legend similar to Iblis in Islam, hence the common association.

Shaytan is the Arabic word for Satan. Yazidis are satanists. They are not People of the Book by the way.

Historical caliphates used the designation of People of the Book, and by default the Dhimmis, quite loosely. There were Christians and Jews, obviously, the second-class people who were enjoined certain restrictions and privileges depending on the arbitrary whim of the ruling caliph, then numerous groups that claim to be "Sabaeans" including the polytheists of Harran, noted for their contribution in astronomy. Zoroastrians and Hindus in Iran and Hindustan respectively were also tolerated because their number is too large. Nevermind that the more people are recognized as Dhimmis, the more revenues the Bait-ul Mal received anyway.

Even following the claim that they're satanists, I still regard them as more civilized than rapists and slavers that claimed themselves as the followers of the true God.

[Islamic Government]

Shaytan is the Arabic word for Satan. Yazidis are satanists. They are not People of the Book by the way.

Historical caliphates used the designation of People of the Book, and by default the Dhimmis, quite loosely. There were Christians and Jews, obviously, the second-class people who were enjoined certain restrictions and privileges depending on the arbitrary whim of the ruling caliph, then numerous groups that claim to be "Sabaeans" including the polytheists of Harran, noted for their contribution in astronomy. Zoroastrians and Hindus in Iran and Hindustan respectively were also tolerated because their number is too large. Nevermind that the more people are recognized as Dhimmis, the more revenues the Bait-ul Mal received anyway.

Well Yazidis are not even so many like Hindus.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Wonder how bad it would really be to sell ISIS's families into Slavery.

[Philjia]

Wonder how bad it would really be to sell ISIS's families into Slavery.

Quite bad. Aren't punishments supposed to only apply to the guilty party?

[Jochizyd Republic]

Wonder how bad it would really be to sell ISIS's families into Slavery.

Quite bad. Aren't punishments supposed to only apply to the guilty party?

A lot of them are still accomplices. And they do the same to everyone else. The exact same things that ISIS does to other Muslims needs to be done right back at them.

[Islamic Government]

Quite bad. Aren't punishments supposed to only apply to the guilty party?

A lot of them are still accomplices.

You are worse than the worst crusader.

[Jochizyd Republic]

A lot of them are still accomplices.

You are worse than the worst crusader.

It's no less than what they deserve.

[Philjia]

A lot of them are still accomplices.

You are worse than the worst crusader.

Looters and plunderers entering a foreign land under the pretext of religious crusade to find fortune and glory regardless of the cost to the locals.

Sounds familiar.