Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[Islamic Government]

Oh, well that's not true at all.

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast ... story.html
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran- ... -809449820
https://www.stripes.com/news/report-ira ... s-1.447693
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/ ... amarra.php
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... ns-in-iraq

This is what I'm talking about

http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/10/06/whe ... s-weapons/
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33997408

These are STOLEN weapons, ISIS has stolen them from Iraqi army and Syrian rebels. It's not like the US supplied them to ISIS.

And uh...funny you mentioned Iran. Guess who they secretly fund?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-backs- ... 1434065528

Coincidence no?

What do Taliban have to do with ISIS or Salafism?

[Islamic Government]

Too bad there isn't a real force to defend the Ummah From Wahhabis like the good old days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E ... ahhabi_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_bin_Saud

Abdullah and his two followers were publicly beheaded for their crimes against holy cities and mosques.[1] Prior to his execution, bin Saud, a Wahhabi who forbade to listen music, was forced to listen to the lute.[2]

Absolutely amazing. We really need them back these days. They could be a big help with the pest problem the Middle East is dealing with.

Funny. If the Ottomans came back today, you would call them "Khawarij" or "CIA agents" because too violent.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Too bad there isn't a real force to defend the Ummah From Wahhabis like the good old days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E ... ahhabi_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_bin_Saud

Abdullah and his two followers were publicly beheaded for their crimes against holy cities and mosques.[1] Prior to his execution, bin Saud, a Wahhabi who forbade to listen music, was forced to listen to the lute.[2]

Absolutely amazing. We really need them back these days. They could be a big help with the pest problem the Middle East is dealing with.

Funny. If the Ottomans came back today, you would call them "Khawarij" or "CIA agents" because too violent.

Oh, no I absolutely wouldn't. I'm absolutely pro violence and Jihad if it's waged correctly towards the right people.

The Wahhabis and their like were the right people to fight.

They deserved every last bullet. They're probably writhing like the worms they are in the Hellfire about now.

[Islamic Government]

Funny. If the Ottomans came back today, you would call them "Khawarij" or "CIA agents" because too violent.

Oh, no I absolutely wouldn't. I'm absolutely pro violence and Jihad if it's waged correctly towards the right people.

The Wahhabis and their like were the right people to fight.

They deserved every last bullet. They're probably writhing like the worms they are in the Hellfire about now.

The Ottomans also burned alive people and beheaded a lot. The same things ISIS is doing today.

By the way, you support "Jihad" against "Wahhabis" but you don't support Jihad against USA, Russia and Iran? I don't think you even know what Jihad actually is.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Oh, well that's not true at all.

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast ... story.html
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran- ... -809449820
https://www.stripes.com/news/report-ira ... s-1.447693
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/ ... amarra.php
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... ns-in-iraq

They did back the Iraqi Shi'a. And that was wrong. That regime was not to be trusted. Nothing tied to Iran's Hardline Ayatollah is ever to be trusted. But not the Sufi Militia. Which is I was speaking of.

These are STOLEN weapons, ISIS has stolen them from Iraqi army and Syrian rebels. It's not like the US supplied them to ISIS.

You support ISIS? Well, not surprised. But they did create the environment needed to create them.

And they armed others like the "Islamic Front" in Syria. And these Salafi "Islamists" in general.
https://acmcu.georgetown.edu/the-policy-stupid

What do Taliban have to do with ISIS or Salafism?

You mean other than the fact that the Deobandi Clerics thatgave rise to the Taliban are just disguised Wahhabis?

[Islamic Government]

They did back the Iraqi Shi'a. And that was wrong. That regime was not to be trusted. Nothing tied to Iran's Hardline Ayatollah is ever to be trusted. But not the Sufi Militia. Which is I was speaking of.

Guess what, the USA are backing anyone who is fighting ISIS. They fear Khilafah more than anything else.

[Islamic Government]

You mean other than the fact that the Deobandi Clerics thatgave rise to the Taliban are just disguised Wahhabis?

Iran is backing Taliban against ISIS, not because they support "Wahhabism" whatever this word means.

[Jochizyd Republic]

The Ottomans also burned alive people and beheaded a lot. The same things ISIS is doing today.

Yeah but they did it towards Wahhabi Terrorists. Fire is Allah's punishment, so I wont support that. But their fighting was aimed towards those who deserved it.

By the way, you support "Jihad" against "Wahhabis" but you don't support Jihad against USA, Russia and Iran? I don't think you even know what Jihad actually is.

Very presumptuous, ignorant and hypocritical of you!

Jihad in the martial sense of Holy war against the Enemies of Islam has strictly codified requirements that must be met. For instance. Offense must be enacted by the enemy beforehand, as there is no preemtive attack in Islam. And in fighting them there are strict principles to be layed down. All of which the Salafi Jihadis violate.

It's clear you, as with other "Salafi" Wahhabi Jihadists, from what you've shared, have a thoroughly revisionist take on how it works.

[Jochizyd Republic]

They did back the Iraqi Shi'a. And that was wrong. That regime was not to be trusted. Nothing tied to Iran's Hardline Ayatollah is ever to be trusted. But not the Sufi Militia. Which is I was speaking of.

Guess what, the USA are backing anyone who is fighting ISIS. They fear Khilafah more than anything else.

Well, that so called "Khilafa" is almost buried under a pile of rubble and slag.

[Islamic Government]

Yeah but they did it towards Wahhabis.

No, they did it mainly towards Shias and Christian enemy soldiers.

[Islamic Government]

Guess what, the USA are backing anyone who is fighting ISIS. They fear Khilafah more than anything else.

Oh, so you support ISIS then.

Only a matter of time then.

Yeah, only a matter of time.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Yeah but they did it towards Wahhabis.

No, they did it mainly towards Shias and Christian enemy soldiers.

That was pretty great of them as well. Beating back the Shi'a Extremists and the Serbs and the Greeks.

Hope someone like them will be back soon honestly. As a Traditional Sunni, It's hard not to long for a force like that to protect the Ummah from people that seek to blow it up. Zionist, Khomeinist, or Wahhabi.

[Islamic Government]

No, they did it mainly towards Shias and Christian enemy soldiers.

That was pretty great of them as well. Beating back the Shi'a Extremists and the Serbs and the Greeks.

Imagine if they did the same thing today against Russians and Americans. You would call them "monsters", your coconut scholars would condemn them as "Khawarij" and "terrorists" and would ally with Obama/Trump in their "War on Terror" and so on....

[FelrikTheDeleted]

That was pretty great of them as well. Beating back the Shi'a Extremists and the Serbs and the Greeks.

Imagine if they did the same thing today against Russians and Americans. You would call them "monsters", your coconut scholars would condemn them as "Khawarij" and "terrorists" and would ally with Obama/Trump in their "War on Terror" and so on....

Unlike that time, many a peoples hold different ideas on what is and isn't acceptable for armies to do to one another.

[Islamic Government]

Guess what, the USA are backing anyone who is fighting ISIS. They fear Khilafah more than anything else.

Well, that so called "Khilafa" is almost buried under a pile of rubble and slag.

So you support the American crusade against Muslims. Very disappointing from a "Traditional Sunni"...

[Jochizyd Republic]

That was pretty great of them as well. Beating back the Shi'a Extremists and the Serbs and the Greeks.

Imagine if they did the same thing today against Russians and Americans. You would call them "monsters", your coconut scholars would condemn them as "Khawarij" and "terrorists" and would ally with Obama/Trump in their "War on Terror" and so on....

Swing and a Miss brah
Running out of wild guesses there?

I'd love if they would come back to beat back Russian and Zionist foreign policy. And maybe they will soon, who knows.

coconut scholars

Uh. wut.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Well, that so called "Khilafa" is almost buried under a pile of rubble and slag.

So you support the American crusade against Muslims. Very disappointing from a "Traditional Sunni"...

Steeeeeerike Three!

I couldn't be more critical of American Foreign Policy.

It's run by Zionists for Israeli Interests.
And often uses Wahhabis like you to divide the Ummah to get it ready for Israel.

[Islamic Government]

Steeeeeerike Three!

Are you nuts?!
I couldn't be more critical of American Foreign Policy.

It's run by Zionists for Israeli Interests.

You say you are critical of America and Zionists but in the same thread you just wrote that you are happy that Khilafah is being defeated by the Zionist US-led Coalition.

Quite hypocritical, uh?

[Jochizyd Republic]

Very disappointing from a "Traditional Sunni"...

Even more disappointing seeing someone roped into the revisionist brigandry movement of Wahhab (La'anatullah)

[Jochizyd Republic]

You say you are critical of America and Zionists but in the same thread you just wrote that you are happy that Khilafah is being defeated by the Zionist US-led Coalition.

Quite hypocritical, uh?

It's being crushed by the Zionist Led US coalition?

Uh. I really don't like Assad or the Iraqi Shi'a Militias at all. (those are the ones killing them actually, along with Sunni cooperation) I'm just Glad ISIS is being Crushed. Reform to purge those states of Extremist Shi'a will come in due time.

[Islamic Government]

I'm just Glad ISIS is being Crushed.

So you support Zionist American foreign policy and military actions.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Steeeeeerike Three!

Are you nuts?!
I couldn't be more critical of American Foreign Policy.

It's run by Zionists for Israeli Interests.

You say you are critical of America and Zionists but in the same thread you just wrote that you are happy that Khilafah is being defeated by the Zionist US-led Coalition.

Quite hypocritical, uh?

This Caliphate is presumably ISIS correct? If so then I believe that they are Wahhabi, something of which I am certain Jochi despises. It is not a surprise that he would celebrate something of which he believes to be bad being destroyed. Not very hypocritical.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Ba'athis are your best bet.

Well, only if they are original Ba'athists. Like the Syrian ones. Not the degenerate leftovers of Saddam Hussein's regime.

The Ba'athist Leftovers to Saddam's regime were quite good. I don't buy that they "allied with ISIS" or any of that. They're just fighting to protect Sunni Interests in the area from anti-Sunni Militia. ISIS is actually very heavily opposed to the Naqshbandi and Saddamist rebels.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/n ... -ISIS.html

[Jochizyd Republic]

I'm just Glad ISIS is being Crushed.

So you support Zionist American foreign policy and military actions.

No, I don't. Because that's...factually not who is destroying ISIS right now. Muslim Countries are. I seriously doubt you actually even know what's going on in the region other than what Ummah.com or some other mohareb-lover site tells you.

If anything you indirectly support it, seeing that Wahhabis work to divide and corrode the Ummah in the middle east so that Zionists can have a petty state.

[Itoshiki]

I'm just Glad ISIS is being Crushed.

So you support Zionist American foreign policy and military actions.

.. Why do you act as an apologist to a regime which, among many other things, openly endorses and practices sexual slavery, genocide against minority ethnoreligious groups, and casually engages in wanton cruelty to attract media attention?