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What Denomination are You?

Sunni
132
28%
Sunni (Sufi)
31
7%
Sunni (Salafi)
26
6%
Ithna'ashari/Twelver Shi'a
30
6%
Other Shi'a
15
3%
Ibadi
13
3%
Ahmadiyya
11
2%
Qur'anist
17
4%
Nondenominational
50
11%
Other
145
31%
 
Total votes : 470

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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:55 pm

Menassa wrote:
Shurjah wrote:I am from Libya the Jews should have stayed in Europe

They were exterminated en mass in Europe, the leaks of which society has never seen before and hopefully may never see again in our lifetimes.

Yet this is an Arab problem
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:55 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:Germany actually lost a lot of land that got partitioned between: Poland, Austria, the USSR, Denmark, etc...

Not an inch to a single Jew and THEY DID THE HOLOCAUST!

And instead the Jews got part of their ancestral homeland back.

And soon, they might get all of it back, if Palestine keeps acting as unreasonable as they currently are.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:55 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:But he did mean harm for people he saw as undesirable, the untermensch.

That is not my problem or anyone elses outside his country

You should find that highly objectionable, even if you wouldn't have been within his country or his prospective territorial gains. Which ranged from France to Poland.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:56 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Menassa wrote:They were exterminated en mass in Europe, the leaks of which society has never seen before and hopefully may never see again in our lifetimes.

Yet this is an Arab problem

Mainly because the Arab world doesn't know what this thing called "Peace" is.
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:56 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:But he did mean harm for people he saw as undesirable, the untermensch.

That is not my problem or anyone elses outside his country

You do not care about millions of human life why should they care about you
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:56 pm

New haven america wrote:
Shurjah wrote:Not an inch to a single Jew and THEY DID THE HOLOCAUST!

And instead the Jews got part of their ancestral homeland back.

And soon, they might get all of it back, if Palestine keeps acting as unreasonable as they currently are.

So give me Spain
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:56 pm

Darussalam wrote:
Shurjah wrote:That is not my problem or anyone elses outside his country

You do not care about millions of human life why should they care about you

I never asked them to
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:57 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Shurjah wrote:That is not my problem or anyone elses outside his country

You should find that highly objectionable, even if you wouldn't have been within his country or his prospective territorial gains. Which ranged from France to Poland.

No I should not we all have seen them and their slaugthers in Palestine
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:57 pm

Aillyria wrote:

https://mobile.the-scientist.com/article/37821/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews
Try again.

New haven america wrote:Actual, multiple Arab countries worked with Germany, so yes it is.

Rather than zionist colonizers, damn skippy. It'd choose the one that doesn't want my land too.

I've already explained my reasoning:

New haven america wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Especially since most of them aren't really hebrews, just white imposters from Europe.


The native Jew minority had the land they lived on, and the Palestinians had their lands.....why should the Palestinians give their land to Jews?

A. First and foremost, it wasn't their land to give, it was the British Empire's as they were the rightful owners, and B. The British spent a good while drawing a map that would make both the Palestinians and Jews happy, but seeing as how Arab countries love finding new ways to go to war, the Palestinians only have themselves to blame when they lost the conflict that they themselves started, twice.

Israel has offered to become a 2 party state and offered peace agreements multiple times, and Palestine instead decided to join with a terrorist organization (Hamas) that is hell bent on creating Islamic purity within the Middle East and North Africa (You can see their handiwork in Lebanon, one of the only secular countries in the Middle East). Can't say I feel much sympathy towards what the Palestinians are trying to do.
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:58 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Darussalam wrote:You do not care about millions of human life why should they care about you

I never asked them to

So you don't want international recognition of Palestine or liberation of Palestinians from suffering, you just want good boi point of being the oppressed.

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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:58 pm

New haven america wrote:
Shurjah wrote:Yet this is an Arab problem

Mainly because the Arab world doesn't know what this thing called "Peace" is.

That is beyond irrelevant how is the holocaust my problem
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:58 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:You should find that highly objectionable, even if you wouldn't have been within his country or his prospective territorial gains. Which ranged from France to Poland.

No I should not we all have seen them and their slaugthers in Palestine

So, because Jewish people have killed some Palestinians, Hitler's ideas shouldn't be seen as highly objectionable retroactively? :eyebrow:
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:59 pm

Darussalam wrote:
Shurjah wrote:I never asked them to

So you don't want international recognition of Palestine or liberation of Palestinians from suffering, you just want good boi point of being the oppressed.

arab.jpeg

The international "community" is full of shit most the time anyway
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:59 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:And instead the Jews got part of their ancestral homeland back.

And soon, they might get all of it back, if Palestine keeps acting as unreasonable as they currently are.

So give me Spain

Sorry, Spain won the Iberian Peninsula from you, and then some.

Maybe if Palestine actually won something I might be more understasnding towards them, but they're sore losers who have lost every attempt they've made to get the Israel held land.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:00 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:Mainly because the Arab world doesn't know what this thing called "Peace" is.

That is beyond irrelevant how is the holocaust my problem

No, it's totally relevant.
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
Shurjah wrote:So give me Spain

Sorry, Spain won the Iberian Peninsula from you.

Maybe if Palestine actually won something I might be more understasnding towards them, but they're sore losers who have lost every attempt they've made to get the Israel held land.

And we won Palestine from the Greeks who won it from Rome who won it from Egypt and so on Palestine is our land
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:00 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:Mainly because the Arab world doesn't know what this thing called "Peace" is.

That is beyond irrelevant how is the holocaust my problem

It is a symptom of a larger problem, namely the Arab world ignoring things such as universal human dignity
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:01 pm

New haven america wrote:
Shurjah wrote:That is beyond irrelevant how is the holocaust my problem

No, it's totally relevant.

No it is not you just hate Arabs
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Postby Menassa » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:02 pm


Did you not read your own article? Perhaps try coming back with more when you have access to a computer?

for many Ashkenazi males, whose Y chromosomal DNA suggests a likely origin in the Near East


The dissent in your article states that there is a link between Ashkenazi Jews and the near east.
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:02 pm

Darussalam wrote:
Shurjah wrote:That is beyond irrelevant how is the holocaust my problem

It is a symptom of a larger problem, namely the Arab world ignoring things such as universal human dignity

These are things morons that claim to be smart come up with these things are not our problem and we do not care and we do not want Europeans telling us what is right and wrong we are capable of this ourselves and better at it
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:02 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:Sorry, Spain won the Iberian Peninsula from you.

Maybe if Palestine actually won something I might be more understasnding towards them, but they're sore losers who have lost every attempt they've made to get the Israel held land.

And we won Palestine from the Greeks who won it from Rome who won it from Egypt and so on Palestine is our land

Ignoring the ridiculous leaps of logic you've just made, You do realize that A. Palestine lost their soverignty to the British, and B. Palestine has continued to lose every attempt they've made at regaining land, every single time. Hence the reason that they're sore losers.
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Postby Menassa » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:02 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:Sorry, Spain won the Iberian Peninsula from you.

Maybe if Palestine actually won something I might be more understasnding towards them, but they're sore losers who have lost every attempt they've made to get the Israel held land.

And we won Palestine from the Greeks who won it from Rome who won it from Egypt and so on Palestine is our land

Then you lost it to the Jews.

Twice.
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:02 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Darussalam wrote:So you don't want international recognition of Palestine or liberation of Palestinians from suffering, you just want good boi point of being the oppressed.

arab.jpeg

The international "community" is full of shit most the time anyway

Good to see you're not denying it. Fortunately I would like to inform you that many outside the Arab world are genuinely interested in actual changes, so you can just sit down and twiddling thumbs and mumbling about how Hitler did nothing wrong.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:03 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:No, it's totally relevant.

No it is not you just hate Arabs

No I don't, I don't hate any people group.

Try again.
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Postby Aillyria » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:03 pm

New haven america wrote:
Aillyria wrote:https://mobile.the-scientist.com/article/37821/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews
Try again.


Rather than zionist colonizers, damn skippy. It'd choose the one that doesn't want my land too.

I've already explained my reasoning:

New haven america wrote:A. First and foremost, it wasn't their land to give, it was the British Empire's as they were the rightful owners, and B. The British spent a good while drawing a map that would make both the Palestinians and Jews happy, but seeing as how Arab countries love finding new ways to go to war, the Palestinians only have themselves to blame when they lost the conflict that they themselves started, twice.

Israel has offered to become a 2 party state and offered peace agreements multiple times, and Palestine instead decided to join with a terrorist organization (Hamas) that is hell bent on creating Islamic purity within the Middle East and North Africa (You can see their handiwork in Lebanon, one of the only secular countries in the Middle East). Can't say I feel much sympathy towards what the Palestinians are trying to do.

Would you accept the partition of your house? They stole land and they want a 2 state solution on land that isn't even theirs? Screw that.
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