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What Denomination are You?

Sunni
132
28%
Sunni (Sufi)
31
7%
Sunni (Salafi)
26
6%
Ithna'ashari/Twelver Shi'a
30
6%
Other Shi'a
15
3%
Ibadi
13
3%
Ahmadiyya
11
2%
Qur'anist
17
4%
Nondenominational
50
11%
Other
145
31%
 
Total votes : 470

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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:43 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Pray tell, why is Holocaust denial so prevalent in the Middle East today?

You value your nation over human lives, which is disgusting.

Because we do not take in every lie fed to us and accept books written by 'victims'

Which lies?
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:43 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Decolonization was inevitable. At best it would have been a couple more years, and patience is a virtue.

There is no virtue in humiliation

There is even less virtue in helping a genocidal regime.
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Shurjah
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:43 pm

Menassa wrote:
Shurjah wrote:That is a load of bullshit we have no jews we could have never killed them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

I do not care do you want some links about Gaza which out does this by a lot
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Postby Qandaristania » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:44 pm

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Aillyria wrote:Oh no you don't. Face the facts, the Jews were and always were the aggressors in Palestine. It doesn't "suck to suck", they stole land and the rightful owners want it back. You saw how little land they had in '47, how is that partition not favoritism? How is it not zionist?

It's not the Jewish population's fault that the Palestinians don't know how to share, or the fact that the Arab countries will always try and find new and stupider reasons to go to war.

Also, good job showing your incorrect view of history, because the rightful owners of Palestine were the British, and gifted the Jews that land.

If the Palestinians are supposed to share their lands with foreigners, why don't you share your house with your neighbour to begin with.
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:44 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Shurjah wrote:There is no virtue in humiliation

There is even less virtue in helping a genocidal regime.

I do not like Hitler but compared to Britian, Soviets and Jewish colonizers he is much better
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Postby Menassa » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:45 pm

Shurjah wrote:

I do not care do you want some links about Gaza which out does this by a lot

You made a claim about Arabs not killing Jews, I have proven that to be a lie. Now, we should we trust further claims that you make, say about a complicated political situation in which you offer one line responses and repeat divisive tropes in the guise of actual knowledge?

I'm not denying there aren't atrocities committed by the hand of the Israelis, in fact what you're doing there is mere deflection.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:46 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:Actual, multiple Arab countries worked with Germany, so yes it is.

That is a load of bullshit we have no jews we could have never killed them

Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia would disagree.

Also, Jews were rather prevalent in the Arab countries before Israel-Palestine, so good job ignoring history.
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:46 pm

Menassa wrote:
Shurjah wrote:I do not care do you want some links about Gaza which out does this by a lot

You made a claim about Arabs not killing Jews, I have proven that to be a lie. Now, we should we trust further claims that you make, say about a complicated political situation in which you offer one line responses and repeat divisive tropes in the guise of actual knowledge?

I'm not denying there aren't atrocities committed by the hand of the Israelis, in fact what you're doing there is mere deflection.

Hitler did not even have power in 1929 I was saying we had nothing to do with the Holocaust
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:47 pm

New haven america wrote:
Shurjah wrote:That is a load of bullshit we have no jews we could have never killed them

Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia would disagree.

Also, Jews were rather prevalent in the Arab countries before Israel-Palestine, so good job ignoring history.

I do not care
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:47 pm

Qandaristania wrote:
New haven america wrote:It's not the Jewish population's fault that the Palestinians don't know how to share, or the fact that the Arab countries will always try and find new and stupider reasons to go to war.

Also, good job showing your incorrect view of history, because the rightful owners of Palestine were the British, and gifted the Jews that land.

If the Palestinians are supposed to share their lands with foreigners, why don't you share your house with your neighbour to begin with.

If my neighbor had a reason that they had to stay at my place, I would let them.

It's called being reasonable, Palestine should try it sometime.
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:47 pm

Shurjah wrote:

I do not care do you want some links about Gaza which out does this by a lot

And thou lynch niggers

See, many Arabs did this thing where they vehemently denounced atrocities of one side yet stay silent about another. That's not how it works if you care about universal human dignity, which I'm sure they do not believe anyway. You're clinging to tribalistic idols and would gladly let millions perish for the advantage of your group.

Worship your tawaghit and carry on
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:48 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia would disagree.

Also, Jews were rather prevalent in the Arab countries before Israel-Palestine, so good job ignoring history.

I do not care

Got it: Ignore facts that contradict your view of history.

You're gonna last long here.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:49 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:There is even less virtue in helping a genocidal regime.

I do not like Hitler but compared to Britian, Soviets and Jewish colonizers he is much better

How so?
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:50 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Shurjah wrote:I do not like Hitler but compared to Britian, Soviets and Jewish colonizers he is much better

How so?

He helped my tribe against another tribe even if it ended in extermination of six millions of said another tribe lol
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:50 pm

New haven america wrote:
Qandaristania wrote:If the Palestinians are supposed to share their lands with foreigners, why don't you share your house with your neighbour to begin with.

If my neighbor had a reason that they had to stay at my place, I would let them.

It's called being reasonable, Palestine should try it sometime.

Reasonable so a few Jews die in Palestine they get the whole country supposedly a few million die in Germany, Germany loses no land to the Jews or people
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:51 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Shurjah wrote:I do not like Hitler but compared to Britian, Soviets and Jewish colonizers he is much better

How so?

He meant no harm for us or his country
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Postby Menassa » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:51 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Menassa wrote:You made a claim about Arabs not killing Jews, I have proven that to be a lie. Now, we should we trust further claims that you make, say about a complicated political situation in which you offer one line responses and repeat divisive tropes in the guise of actual knowledge?

I'm not denying there aren't atrocities committed by the hand of the Israelis, in fact what you're doing there is mere deflection.

Hitler did not even have power in 1929 I was saying we had nothing to do with the Holocaust

But 'you' (who is this you now, are you a Palestinian? Or are you talking about Muslims?) killed many a defenseless Jew during that time period so you certainly didn't help. Perhaps 'you' even provided more reasons for Jews to stay in Europe and await their deaths for fear of returning to Palestine to be met with even more aggression.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:51 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:How so?

He meant no harm for us or his country

But he did mean harm for people he saw as undesirable, the untermensch.
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:52 pm

Menassa wrote:
Shurjah wrote:Hitler did not even have power in 1929 I was saying we had nothing to do with the Holocaust

But 'you' (who is this you now, are you a Palestinian? Or are you talking about Muslims?) killed many a defenseless Jew during that time period so you certainly didn't help. Perhaps 'you' even provided more reasons for Jews to stay in Europe and await their deaths for fear of returning to Palestine to be met with even more aggression.

I am from Libya the Jews should have stayed in Europe
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:52 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Shurjah wrote:He meant no harm for us or his country

But he did mean harm for people he saw as undesirable, the untermensch.

That is not my problem or anyone elses outside his country
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Postby New haven america » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:53 pm

Shurjah wrote:
New haven america wrote:If my neighbor had a reason that they had to stay at my place, I would let them.

It's called being reasonable, Palestine should try it sometime.

Reasonable so a few Jews die in Palestine they get the whole country supposedly a few million die in Germany, Germany loses no land to the Jews or people

Germany actually lost a lot of land that got partitioned between: Poland, Austria, the USSR, Denmark, etc...

Also 6 million people is bit more than "A few."
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Postby Menassa » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:53 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Menassa wrote:But 'you' (who is this you now, are you a Palestinian? Or are you talking about Muslims?) killed many a defenseless Jew during that time period so you certainly didn't help. Perhaps 'you' even provided more reasons for Jews to stay in Europe and await their deaths for fear of returning to Palestine to be met with even more aggression.

I am from Libya the Jews should have stayed in Europe

They were exterminated en mass in Europe, the leaks of which society has never seen before and hopefully may never see again in our lifetimes.
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Postby Shurjah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:54 pm

New haven america wrote:
Shurjah wrote:Reasonable so a few Jews die in Palestine they get the whole country supposedly a few million die in Germany, Germany loses no land to the Jews or people

Germany actually lost a lot of land that got partitioned between: Poland, Austria, the USSR, Denmark, etc...

Not an inch to a single Jew and THEY DID THE HOLOCAUST!
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Postby Menassa » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:54 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:But he did mean harm for people he saw as undesirable, the untermensch.

That is not my problem or anyone elses outside his country

Were you not aware that Hitler conquered Europe?
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Postby Aillyria » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:55 pm

Menassa wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Especially since most of them aren't really hebrews, just white imposters from Europe.

Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.

https://mobile.the-scientist.com/article/37821/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews
Try again.

New haven america wrote:
Shurjah wrote:It is not the Arab populations fault that the holocaust happened

Actual, multiple Arab countries worked with Germany, so yes it is.

Rather than zionist colonizers, damn skippy. It'd choose the one that doesn't want my land too.
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