Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[Proctopeo]

Not long after 181 was adopted, a Jewish bus was attacked by Arabs.
And thus a civil war, which later evolved into the first Arab-Israeli Conflict, erupted.


If someone strikes you first, that constitutes a defensive war. If you then proceed to wallop them and decide to take some land for your troubles, it still was a defensive war.

They exaggerate the holocaust then they make other people pay for something they had nothing to do with there is nothing defensive about this

Literally

[Kubumba Tribe]

That's what the Rashidun (RA) did. And they had a reason to do that.

They fought offensive wars because of if they did not attack first they would have been swallod the concept was defensive but the action offensive and justified and whatever they did we love because Allah Aza wa Jal elected them out of all people

Exactly, it was still a defensive attack...just with offensive results
Allahu Akbar.

Not long after 181 was adopted, a Jewish bus was attacked by Arabs.
And thus a civil war, which later evolved into the first Arab-Israeli Conflict, erupted.


If someone strikes you first, that constitutes a defensive war. If you then proceed to wallop them and decide to take some land for your troubles, it still was a defensive war.

They exaggerate the holocaust then they make other people pay for something they had nothing to do with there is nothing defensive about this

Are you a holocaust denier too?

[Kubumba Tribe]

I wouldn't call what the Arab states did as 'jihad'. It was good, but not 'jihad'. And I need proof of the Arab states being anti-Jewish.

I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as this will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Tartar massacre or the Crusader wars. I believe that the number of volunteers from outside Palestine will be larger than Palestine's Arab population, for I know that volunteers will be arriving to us from [as far as] India, Afghanistan, and China to win the honor of martyrdom for the sake of Palestine...

Wow, 1 person.

[Shurjah]

They exaggerate the holocaust then they make other people pay for something they had nothing to do with there is nothing defensive about this

Literally

No one knows what really happened and it is likely no one ever will because that information is very sensative and would destabilize Israel and the West but it could not have been 3 million or whatever they claim the population of Europe was not that big not the Jew population either Israel has no right to exist

[Taihei Tengoku]

Exactly, it was still a defensive attack...just with offensive results ;)
Allahu Akbar.

אלוהים הוא הגדול ביותר

[Shurjah]

I wouldn't call what the Arab states did as 'jihad'. It was good, but not 'jihad'. And I need proof of the Arab states being anti-Jewish.

I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as this will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Tartar massacre or the Crusader wars. I believe that the number of volunteers from outside Palestine will be larger than Palestine's Arab population, for I know that volunteers will be arriving to us from [as far as] India, Afghanistan, and China to win the honor of martyrdom for the sake of Palestine...

That is beautifully said are you just jealous Muslims and Arabs defend each other

[Proctopeo]

Wow, 1 person.

That one person is the first secretary-general of the Arab League.

Literally

No one knows what really happened and it is likely no one ever will because that information is very sensative and would destabilize Israel and the West but it could not have been 3 million or whatever they claim the population of Europe was not that big not the Jew population either Israel has no right to exist

So, you're one of those "it happened but the REAL numbers are smaller!" types.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Literally

No one knows what really happened and it is likely no one ever will because that information is very sensative and would destabilize Israel and the West but it could not have been 3 million or whatever they claim the population of Europe was not that big not the Jew population either Israel has no right to exist

Of course the ZIonist state has no right to exist, doesn't mean the holocaust didn't happen, which it did.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Wow, 1 person.

That one person is the first secretary-general of the Arab League.

Again, 1 person.

[Proctopeo]

That one person is the first secretary-general of the Arab League.

Again, 1 person.

You know what the Arab League is, right?

[Shurjah]

Wow, 1 person.

That one person is the first secretary-general of the Arab League.

No one knows what really happened and it is likely no one ever will because that information is very sensative and would destabilize Israel and the West but it could not have been 3 million or whatever they claim the population of Europe was not that big not the Jew population either Israel has no right to exist

So, you're one of those "it happened but the REAL numbers are smaller!" types.

I do not know what happened they have no place in Palestine and need to get over whatever happened

[Kubumba Tribe]

Again, 1 person.

You know what the Arab League is, right?

Yes, I do.
And Imma revise that too, cuz a person in oower is very influential.
Tbh tho, what really matters is what Islamic scholars thought about the fight for Palestine, whether the Arab leaders were jihading or just fighting. Personally, I have mixed feelings.

[Aillyria]

Defensive

sucks_to_suck.jpg

According to Kumbumba Tribe if you can take all the land you like in a defensive war!

Oh no you don't. Face the facts, the Jews were and always were the aggressors in Palestine. It doesn't "suck to suck", they stole land and the rightful owners want it back. You saw how little land they had in '47, how is that partition not favoritism? How is it not zionist?

[Proctopeo]

That one person is the first secretary-general of the Arab League.


So, you're one of those "it happened but the REAL numbers are smaller!" types.

I do not know what happened they have no place in Palestine and need to get over whatever happened

If over half of the Muslim population in multiple countries were exterminated in a genocidal campaign, how long would it take you to "get over" it? Ten years? Fifty? Seventy-five? How long?

[Shurjah]

I do not know what happened they have no place in Palestine and need to get over whatever happened

If over half of the Muslim population in multiple countries were exterminated in a genocidal campaign, how long would it take you to "get over" it? Ten years? Fifty? Seventy-five? How long?

That would never happen

[Taihei Tengoku]

sucks_to_suck.jpg

According to Kumbumba Tribe if you can take all the land you like in a defensive war!

Oh no you don't. Face the facts, the Jews were and always were the aggressors in Palestine. It doesn't "suck to suck", they stole land and the rightful owners want it back. You saw how little land they had in '47, how is that partition not favoritism? How is it not zionist?

Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history and religion.

[Proctopeo]

If over half of the Muslim population in multiple countries were exterminated in a genocidal campaign, how long would it take you to "get over" it? Ten years? Fifty? Seventy-five? How long?

That would never happen

Assume that despite all odds it did.
Then answer my question.

[Taihei Tengoku]

Shurjah is the most honest one here--he is frank in what he considers good and what he considers bad and does not claim universality.

[Shurjah]

That would never happen

Assume that despite all odds it did.
Then answer my question.

No we would not forgive it or forget but we would not go out of our way to ask for land that was never ours and make unrelated people suffer for it

[Proctopeo]

Assume that despite all odds it did.
Then answer my question.

No we would not forgive it or forget but we would not go out of our way to ask for land that was never ours and make unrelated people suffer for it

So, Jews asking for land that you think they didn't deserve means they have to "get over" the holocaust?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

sucks_to_suck.jpg

According to Kumbumba Tribe if you can take all the land you like in a defensive war!

Oh no you don't. Face the facts, the Jews were and always were the aggressors in Palestine. It doesn't "suck to suck", they stole land and the rightful owners want it back. You saw how little land they had in '47, how is that partition not favoritism? How is it not zionist?

Palestine never should've existed in the first place tbh. Breaking up the Empire was a mistake.

That one person is the first secretary-general of the Arab League.


So, you're one of those "it happened but the REAL numbers are smaller!" types.

I do not know what happened they have no place in Palestine

It's literally their ancestral homeland :^)

[Aillyria]

Oh no you don't. Face the facts, the Jews were and always were the aggressors in Palestine. It doesn't "suck to suck", they stole land and the rightful owners want it back. You saw how little land they had in '47, how is that partition not favoritism? How is it not zionist?

Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history and religion.

Answer my fucking post, I don't care about what one genocidal asswipe has to say.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

No we would not forgive it or forget but we would not go out of our way to ask for land that was never ours and make unrelated people suffer for it

So, Jews asking for land that you think they didn't deserve means they have to "get over" the holocaust?

To be fair though, it's been seventy years.

[Shurjah]

No we would not forgive it or forget but we would not go out of our way to ask for land that was never ours and make unrelated people suffer for it

So, Jews asking for land that you think they didn't deserve means they have to "get over" the holocaust?

Yes they have no retribution from this we did not do the holocaust we are not Hitler or the Nazis they do not deserve a meter of Palestine for the Holocaust

[Proctopeo]

So, Jews asking for land that you think they didn't deserve means they have to "get over" the holocaust?

To be fair though, it's been seventy years.

Many would say it's not been long enough to get over it.
It's been long enough for jokes about it to be funny, however.

So, Jews asking for land that you think they didn't deserve means they have to "get over" the holocaust?

Yes they have no retribution from this we did not do the holocaust we are not Hitler or the Nazis they do not deserve a meter of Palestine for the Holocaust

That's pretty antisemitic ngl