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What Denomination are You?

Sunni
132
28%
Sunni (Sufi)
31
7%
Sunni (Salafi)
26
6%
Ithna'ashari/Twelver Shi'a
30
6%
Other Shi'a
15
3%
Ibadi
13
3%
Ahmadiyya
11
2%
Qur'anist
17
4%
Nondenominational
50
11%
Other
145
31%
 
Total votes : 470

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:38 pm

Auldenland wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:If Israel is going down, it's taking everyone else with it because it is our fault for not helping them or attacking them.


Well... my view of Israel just got shattered...

Oh? The discrimination, illegal occupations, repeated violations of UN resolutions, etc. weren't enough for you?
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Postby Aillyria » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:38 pm

Rantaune wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Yes, my family lives here and my friends and their families, America is my country. I hate our government, but I love our people more.

> petty nationalism
> Islam

hate to pull the salaf on ye but pick one and only one

More of a patriot, not a nationalist actually. Like I said, if my friends and family weren't here I couldn't care less about the US as a state. But, I was born here and its my homeland.

Any thing or any one who threatens my family and friends, I support their death.
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West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:39 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Auldenland wrote:Well... my view of Israel just got shattered...

It's not official doctrine.

They also don't "officially" have nukes. But they have nukes.
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Population: 135,931,000 | Area: 2,663,077 km² | Location: Middle East
Excidium Planetis Index: Tier 6; Level 0; Level 5 | Current year: 2020
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:39 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Of course, you are a Muslim first, I get it.

My faith isn't the deciding factor in it. I'm just someone who doesn't like having a gun pointed at me.

Thermodolia wrote:IIRC this is the longest lasting republic.

Nah. The Third wins with 70 years.

Well they have 12 years to break the record before they decide that the Third French Empire would be nice
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Postby Rantaune » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:41 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Rantaune wrote:> petty nationalism
> Islam

hate to pull the salaf on ye but pick one and only one

More of a patriot, not a nationalist actually. Like I said, if my friends and family weren't here I couldn't care less about the US as a state. But, I was born here and its my homeland.

Any thing or any one who threatens my family and friends, I support their death.

This is a very shallow view of national pride tbfh. One that seems to be at complete odds or at least serving as dissonance with whatever Islamic values you may hold as well.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:41 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:My faith isn't the deciding factor in it. I'm just someone who doesn't like having a gun pointed at me.


Nah. The Third wins with 70 years.

Well they have 12 years to break the record before they decide that the Third French Empire would be nice

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Population: 135,931,000 | Area: 2,663,077 km² | Location: Middle East
Excidium Planetis Index: Tier 6; Level 0; Level 5 | Current year: 2020
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:41 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Auldenland wrote:
Well... my view of Israel just got shattered...

Oh? The discrimination, illegal occupations, repeated violations of UN resolutions, etc. weren't enough for you?

Meh.

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Postby Aillyria » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:41 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:My faith isn't the deciding factor in it. I'm just someone who doesn't like having a gun pointed at me.


Nah. The Third wins with 70 years.

Well they have 12 years to break the record before they decide that the Third French Empire would be nice

Third French Reich, lol.
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West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:43 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Thermodolia wrote: Except for the small fact that the current PM is a non-Ashkenazi Jew

His father is from Warsaw, which would make him at least part Ashkenazi.

Nope. He's Sephardi
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:44 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Oh? The discrimination, illegal occupations, repeated violations of UN resolutions, etc. weren't enough for you?

Meh.

Yeah. That's the basically kind of reaction I expected.
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Excidium Planetis Index: Tier 6; Level 0; Level 5 | Current year: 2020
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Postby Chinevion » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:44 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Auldenland wrote:
Well... my view of Israel just got shattered...

Oh? The discrimination, illegal occupations, repeated violations of UN resolutions, etc. weren't enough for you?

The un bad is increadibly biased towards isreal. You may have a slight case on the other points but not the un relocations. Hell the un wants isreal to share the iron dome with hamas.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:44 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:His father is from Warsaw, which would make him at least part Ashkenazi.

Nope. He's Sephardi

But if his father is from Warsaw...?
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Population: 135,931,000 | Area: 2,663,077 km² | Location: Middle East
Excidium Planetis Index: Tier 6; Level 0; Level 5 | Current year: 2020
Supreme Leader: Abbas Mosuli
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:46 pm

Chinevion wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Oh? The discrimination, illegal occupations, repeated violations of UN resolutions, etc. weren't enough for you?

The un bad is increadibly biased towards isreal. You may have a slight case on the other points but not the un relocations. Hell the un wants isreal to share the iron dome with hamas.

Yeah. Telling Israel to leave Lebanon is biased :eyebrow:
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Population: 135,931,000 | Area: 2,663,077 km² | Location: Middle East
Excidium Planetis Index: Tier 6; Level 0; Level 5 | Current year: 2020
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:47 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Nope. He's Sephardi

But if his father is from Warsaw...?

Right. Misread that. He's half and half. His mother is full on Sephardi
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:48 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Chinevion wrote:The un bad is increadibly biased towards isreal. You may have a slight case on the other points but not the un relocations. Hell the un wants isreal to share the iron dome with hamas.

Yeah. Telling Israel to leave Lebanon is biased :eyebrow:

Don't you mean the West Bank and not Lebanon?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:49 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:His father is from Warsaw, which would make him at least part Ashkenazi.

Nope. He's Sephardi

He's part Sephardi, and everyone, including him, thought he was Ashkenazi in totality until he had a DNA test done. https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu ... -to-spain/
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Yeah. Telling Israel to leave Lebanon is biased :eyebrow:

Don't you mean the West Bank and not Lebanon?

Well, both. I mainly meant Res. 509, 501, 515, 1701, etc.
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Postby Chinevion » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Yeah. Telling Israel to leave Lebanon is biased :eyebrow:

Don't you mean the West Bank and not Lebanon?

I think that's what he means...
Also isreal has accepted the two state solution, its hamas and palistine that refuse it becuause it ends with isreal still existing.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:52 pm

Chinevion wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Don't you mean the West Bank and not Lebanon?

Also isreal has accepted the two state solution

Bullshit. They wouldn't be illegally setting settlements if they did.
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Population: 135,931,000 | Area: 2,663,077 km² | Location: Middle East
Excidium Planetis Index: Tier 6; Level 0; Level 5 | Current year: 2020
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Postby Chinevion » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:56 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Chinevion wrote:Also isreal has accepted the two state solution

Bullshit. They wouldn't be illegally setting settlements if they did.

http://arabisraeliconflict.info/arab-is ... e-solution

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:59 pm

Chinevion wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Bullshit. They wouldn't be illegally setting settlements if they did.

http://arabisraeliconflict.info/arab-is ... e-solution

Is that URL broken? I'm getting a "Mal the Error Duck" thing.
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Postby Chinevion » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:02 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Is that URL broken? I'm getting a "Mal the Error Duck" thing.

Works for me what country are you in and I don't know the "mall error duck thing"

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Postby Chinevion » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:03 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Don't you mean the West Bank and not Lebanon?

Well, both. I mainly meant Res. 509, 501, 515, 1701, etc.

Proving my point isreal is not occupying any part of Lebanon, if you want I can call my friend who lives there to confirm

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:05 pm

Chinevion wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Is that URL broken? I'm getting a "Mal the Error Duck" thing.

Works for me what country are you in and I don't know the "mall error duck thing"

I'm in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state ... _Palestine read this, though. The Palestinians aren't opposed to the existence of Israel. A terrorist group known as Hamas is.
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Postby Bhikkustan » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:05 pm

Chinevion wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Well, both. I mainly meant Res. 509, 501, 515, 1701, etc.

Proving my point isreal is not occupying any part of Lebanon, if you want I can call my friend who lives there to confirm

Not at this point maybe, but they have invaded several times. And "your friend" means nothing on the internet. "My friend" lives in Lebanon and says that Israeli soldiers attack every day...
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