Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[Conserative Morality]

Absolute lunacy, Pure spite.

Its genius in its madness, I like it.

Every time I'm reminded of it I wish that we would treat Israel like any other rogue state.

[Napkiraly]

Yes and there is nothing wrong with the Samson Option, given the situation they find themselves in.

"If we lose we're killing the people who aren't involved"

10/10 would destroy the West again

Are you listening to yourself?

I can't blame the Israelis given their history and the reality for what it would mean for up to half of the Jewish population should their country fall. It's a genius deterrent and a way to ensure that everyone pays attention to that little speck of the world.

[Thermodolia]

Yes and there is nothing wrong with the Samson Option, given the situation they find themselves in.

We should have never let Israel get nuclear weapons in the first place, they are an absolutely awful ally.

We didn't have the choice in that one. That's on the French. They help Israel with their nuclear program

[Napkiraly]

Its genius in its madness, I like it.

Every time I'm reminded of it I wish that we would treat Israel like any other rogue state.

Yeah, but it's our rogue state. Our little bastion of Western civilization in the Near East.

[The East Marches II]

Its genius in its madness, I like it.

Every time I'm reminded of it I wish that we would treat Israel like any other rogue state.

Their only sin is being a bad ally, their strategic move with those nukes is something to admire. Its reckless and daring, I like it.

[Auldenland]

http://legacy.quran.com/24/31

And where in that does it say a woman must wear hijab? We have no worn the hijab since the 1100s.

That's just your fictional nations
Real world muslim countries still wear hijabs wide spread, If the women really wants to she can, but sometimes I question whether it's always their choice.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Basically, it's a contingency plan whereby if Israel is threatened and the country is facing total defeat, they would nuke the hell out of those defeating them and others threatening them. Name comes from when Samson pulled an entire building down on him and his captors, killing them and himself.

Well that's dramatic. Kind of like a local scale MAD situation.

It's exactly what it is. It's fucking lunacy.

Nuking the fuck out of millions of people is justified?

Well at the point when, well at least I hope, it's activated it really wouldn't matter as the world as we know it is over.

Well, yeah. The day the Arabs manage to defeat Israel is the day that the world changes as it shows a significant change in the balance of power.

[Conserative Morality]

I can't blame the Israelis given their history and the reality for what it would mean for up to half of the Jewish population should their country fall. It's a genius deterrent and a way to ensure that everyone pays attention to that little speck of the world.

If the chain of command is fucking insane enough to carry out those orders, you can bet your ass that the other half of the Jewish population would not fare well. Do you think that would endear the Jews to people? Wiping out the world in nuclear fire, indiscriminately targeting civilians? What about all the Jews that they'd kill with that fucking insanity?

It's sick. It's demented. It's a dangerous state of mind.

[Shikihara]

....Which many people called home and lived and worked.

Yes, it's also where they built bombs which were dropped over London, Warsaw, and other Allied cities.

you have to be smart and find a way not to kill any,

or find the least destructive method that'll result in the least amount of casualties.

Which, with the exception of when it turned into total war, the Allies did.

[Napkiraly]

Well that's dramatic. Kind of like a local scale MAD situation.

It's exactly what it is. It's fucking lunacy.

Yes that is the idea.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

And where in that does it say a woman must wear hijab? We have no worn the hijab since the 1100s.

That's just your fictional nations
Real world muslim countries still wear hijabs wide spread, If the women really wants to she can, but sometimes I question whether it's always their choice.

What in the hell are you talking about? What fictional nation?

[Conserative Morality]

Every time I'm reminded of it I wish that we would treat Israel like any other rogue state.

Yeah, but it's our rogue state. Our little bastion of Western civilization in the Near East.

Is that why they sell our secrets to the Chinese? Because it's 'our' rogue state? Is that why there are no-go areas in Jerusalem for Arabs and unaccompanied women? Is that the West to you? Because it sure as hell isn't the West to me.

Their only sin is being a bad ally, their strategic move with those nukes is something to admire. Its reckless and daring, I like it.

If we had any sense we would've put the kibosh on their nuclear program the first chance we got.

[Auldenland]

Every time I'm reminded of it I wish that we would treat Israel like any other rogue state.

Their only sin is being a bad ally, their strategic move with those nukes is something to admire. Its reckless and daring, I like it.

For a second there I thought we were talking about North Korea

[Aillyria]

Yes and there is nothing wrong with the Samson Option, given the situation they find themselves in.

Nuking the fuck out of millions of people is justified?

Yup, it is completely justified. If your wanna kill my people, I'm killing yours too and I'm going to take as many before I die as possible.

[Thermodolia]

Well at the point when, well at least I hope, it's activated it really wouldn't matter as the world as we know it is over.

Well, yeah. The day the Arabs manage to defeat Israel is the day that the world changes as it shows a significant change in the balance of power.

Well yes. But more than that. By the time it's activated, well I hope this is the case, the nukes would already be flying. Basically the end of the world would already be happening by the time they activate it, or at least that's what I hope

[United Muscovite Nations]

"If we lose we're killing the people who aren't involved"

10/10 would destroy the West again

Are you listening to yourself?

I can't blame the Israelis given their history and the reality for what it would mean for up to half of the Jewish population should their country fall. It's a genius deterrent and a way to ensure that everyone pays attention to that little speck of the world.

The state of Israel doesn't care about Judaism, they regularly persecute their Haredi minority,

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

It's exactly what it is. It's fucking lunacy.

Yes that is the idea.

There's no guarantee whatsoever that an invasion of Israel would mean the slaughter of the entire, or even a majority, of the Jewish populace. The Israelis would respond with the utter and deliberate slaughter of millions. Don't get me wrong, I'm impressed by a shit ton of what Israel has done (come on. They have defeated hugely superior enemies), but that doesn't mean I can't be disgusted by it.

[Napkiraly]

I can't blame the Israelis given their history and the reality for what it would mean for up to half of the Jewish population should their country fall. It's a genius deterrent and a way to ensure that everyone pays attention to that little speck of the world.

If the chain of command is fucking insane enough to carry out those orders, you can bet your ass that the other half of the Jewish population would not fare well. Do you think that would endear the Jews to people? Wiping out the world in nuclear fire, indiscriminately targeting civilians? What about all the Jews that they'd kill with that fucking insanity?

It's sick. It's demented. It's a dangerous state of mind.

As far as the Israelis are considered, it's over for the Jewish people if they lose their homeland again and the world allows for another genocide to occur. So why not go out with a bang? Hence Samson's inspiration. Willing to fall on the sword to bring everything else around him down. From their logic, if the Jewish people are not allowed to keep their homeland - then the rest of the world's nations are allowed to have one either. I can certainly see the logic.

[Auldenland]

Yeah, but it's our rogue state. Our little bastion of Western civilization in the Near East.

Is that why they sell our secrets to the Chinese? Because it's 'our' rogue state? Is that why there are no-go areas in Jerusalem for Arabs and unaccompanied women? Is that the West to you? Because it sure as hell isn't the West to me.

Their only sin is being a bad ally, their strategic move with those nukes is something to admire. Its reckless and daring, I like it.

If we had any sense we would've put the kibosh on their nuclear program the first chance we got.

Western Europe is full of no-go zones for native Europeans because of muslim migrants with little to no respect for natives or their culture, this isn't just happening to you.

[Conserative Morality]

Well yes. But more than that. By the time it's activated, well I hope this is the case, the nukes would already be flying. Basically the end of the world would already be happening by the time they activate it, or at least that's what I hope

I was given to understand that the Samson option was the last resort if Israel was about to be destroyed and the West didn't offer 'enough' help, not what to do in the case of nuclear war.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Nuking the fuck out of millions of people is justified?

Yup, it is completely justified. If your wanna kill my people, I'm killing yours too and I'm going to take as many before I die as possible.

What makes you so sure that the Arabs would slaughter the Jews?

[Shikihara]

Samson Option.

I just realized how fitting that name is.

That sounds a lot like how the Israelis think with their Samson Option.

Absolute lunacy, Pure spite.

No more than MAD. It's a deterrence strategy.

[United Muscovite Nations]

If the chain of command is fucking insane enough to carry out those orders, you can bet your ass that the other half of the Jewish population would not fare well. Do you think that would endear the Jews to people? Wiping out the world in nuclear fire, indiscriminately targeting civilians? What about all the Jews that they'd kill with that fucking insanity?

It's sick. It's demented. It's a dangerous state of mind.

As far as the Israelis are considered, it's over for the Jewish people if they lose their homeland again and the world allows for another genocide to occur. So why not go out with a bang? Hence Samson's inspiration. Willing to fall on the sword to bring everything else around him down. From their logic, if the Jewish people are not allowed to keep their homeland - then the rest of the world's nations are allowed to have one either. I can certainly see the logic.

Tbh, the Israelis put themselves into that situation when they decided they were all going to move somewhere where everyone hated them, and then proceed to carve out a state against the wishes of the locals.

[The East Marches II]

Yeah, but it's our rogue state. Our little bastion of Western civilization in the Near East.

Is that why they sell our secrets to the Chinese? Because it's 'our' rogue state? Is that why there are no-go areas in Jerusalem for Arabs and unaccompanied women? Is that the West to you? Because it sure as hell isn't the West to me.

Their only sin is being a bad ally, their strategic move with those nukes is something to admire. Its reckless and daring, I like it.

If we had any sense we would've put the kibosh on their nuclear program the first chance we got.

If we had any sense is the key qualifier, I do agree with you on that. I'm an American, not an Israeli, being held hostage is not a good feeling. I can however, respect a good move by a foe (or supposed friend in this case)

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Is that why they sell our secrets to the Chinese? Because it's 'our' rogue state? Is that why there are no-go areas in Jerusalem for Arabs and unaccompanied women? Is that the West to you? Because it sure as hell isn't the West to me.

If we had any sense we would've put the kibosh on their nuclear program the first chance we got.

Western Europe is full of no-go zones for native Europeans because of muslim migrants with little to no respect for natives or their culture, this isn't just happening to you.

Dude. This was found to be false