Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[Alsheb]

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Is capitalism compatible with Islam?

Nope.

[Conserative Morality]

Nope.

Why not?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

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Is capitalism compatible with Islam?

I mean, the Prophet was a merchant. It's compatible to an extent. Same with socialism.

[Kubumba Tribe]

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Is capitalism compatible with Islam?

Hey, some people think that Muslims pioneered capitalism thx to Ibn Khaldun.
Idk about that. What I think is that as long as the economy is based on Al-Islam, we're ok.

[High Qaamat]

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Is capitalism compatible with Islam?

Yes, but I don't like capitalism.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Is capitalism compatible with Islam?

I mean, the Prophet was a merchant. It's compatible to an extent. Same with socialism.

Yeah, what UIC said.

[Alsheb]

Is capitalism compatible with Islam?

I mean, the Prophet was a merchant. It's compatible to an extent. Same with socialism.

Mercantilism is not the same as capitalism. The Prophet never owned means of production.

[Luminesa]

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I'm sorry, Ally mentioned talk of America being "evil", therefore it is now Teddy Roosevelt Hour. So sit back and enjoy the sight of one of our greatest presidents riding on a moose across the country-side, waving an American flag and drinking a beer.

And all smug pseudo-leftists get the Bull-Moose. :^)))

[Kubumba Tribe]

Is this threadjack going to keep on going for much longer?

I'm sorry, Ally mentioned talk of America being "evil", therefore it is now Teddy Roosevelt Hour. So sit back and enjoy the sight of one of our greatest presidents riding on a moose across the country-side, waving an American flag and drinking a beer.

And all smug pseudo-leftists get the Bull-Moose. :^)))

Who are the greatest US president, iyo?

[Luminesa]

You said that "kafir" literally means "disbeliever" and refused to believe it could have negative connotations,

I just realized what y'all were arguing about. Were y'all saying that 'kafir' could be taken as offensive by some people?

yet you think that "evil" doesn't mean "the worst that something can possibly be".

That's...what it means.

...Yes...as in...it is seen as a slur in quite a few countries...

[Conserative Morality]

I'm sorry, Ally mentioned talk of America being "evil", therefore it is now Teddy Roosevelt Hour. So sit back and enjoy the sight of one of our greatest presidents riding on a moose across the country-side, waving an American flag and drinking a beer.

And all smug pseudo-leftists get the Bull-Moose. :^)))

... does that include us smug psuedo-leftists who are on Teddy's side? >.>

[Kubumba Tribe]

I just realized what y'all were arguing about. Were y'all saying that 'kafir' could be taken as offensive by some people?

That's...what it means.

...Yes...as in...it is seen as a slur in quite a few countries...

OOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooohhh. Well I messed up. I thought y'all were saying that 'kafir' was an offensive term period.

[Luminesa]

I'm sorry, Ally mentioned talk of America being "evil", therefore it is now Teddy Roosevelt Hour. So sit back and enjoy the sight of one of our greatest presidents riding on a moose across the country-side, waving an American flag and drinking a beer.

And all smug pseudo-leftists get the Bull-Moose. :^)))

Who are the greatest US president, iyo?

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln.

[Conserative Morality]

Thomas Jefferson owned a quran. People often forget that Muslim-Americans have fought in every major war America has had.

[High Qaamat]

Is this threadjack going to keep on going for much longer?

I'm sorry, Ally mentioned talk of America being "evil", therefore it is now Teddy Roosevelt Hour. So sit back and enjoy the sight of one of our greatest presidents riding on a moose across the country-side, waving an American flag and drinking a beer.

And all smug pseudo-leftists get the Bull-Moose. :^)))

but you are being smug right now

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[Kubumba Tribe]

I mean, the Prophet was a merchant. It's compatible to an extent. Same with socialism.

Mercantilism is not the same as capitalism. The Prophet never owned means of production.

Lol this right here will get some Muslims saying that socialism is haram.

[Luminesa]

:oops:

I'm sorry, Ally mentioned talk of America being "evil", therefore it is now Teddy Roosevelt Hour. So sit back and enjoy the sight of one of our greatest presidents riding on a moose across the country-side, waving an American flag and drinking a beer.

And all smug pseudo-leftists get the Bull-Moose. :^)))

... does that include us smug psuedo-leftists who are on Teddy's side? >.>

Nah, you're good. Roosevelt will glad crack open a cold one with even the boys who don't agree with him, as long as they allow him to ride his moose in peace.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Thomas Jefferson owned a quran. People often forget that Muslim-Americans have fought in every major war America has had.

True.

[Audioslavia]

So your religion can fuck right off for all I'm concerned.

This looks quite a lot like flamebait. Please don't do things like that.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Who are the greatest US president, iyo?

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln.

1st 3 owned slaves
Don't know much about TR
FDR helped out in WW1, which wasn't bad (it was pretty good, except that the ME got colonized), but still didn't help reduce racism afaik
AL did sign the EP, but didn't really about human lives. He just cared about keeping the US intact.

[Shikihara]

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Is capitalism compatible with Islam?

I have a hard time believing Marxism is, because if capitalism is anti-Islamic due to being materialist, an ideology that is literally built around dialectical materialism sure is.

[Conserative Morality]

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln.

1st 3 owned slaves
Don't know much about TR
FDR helped out in WW1, which wasn't bad (it was pretty good, except that the ME got colonized), but still didn't help reduce racism afaik
AL did sign the EP, but didn't really about human lives. He just cared about keeping the US intact.

I would like to note that George Washington inherited his slaves and that emancipation was actually legally very difficult in Virginia, except manumission upon death through a will, which he did.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Thomas Jefferson owned a quran. People often forget that Muslim-Americans have fought in every major war America has had.

People also forget that a Muslim country, Morocco, was the first to recognize the US' independence. We have the longest unbroken treaty relationship, having signed the Treaty of Peace and Friendship in 1786 and lasting to this day. Jefferson delayed a state dinner with the Moroccan ambassador to account for Ramadan fast.

[Thermodolia]

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln.

1st 3 owned slaves
Don't know much about TR
FDR helped out in WW1, which wasn't bad (it was pretty good, except that the ME got colonized), but still didn't help reduce racism afaik
AL did sign the EP, but didn't really about human lives. He just cared about keeping the US intact.

FDR wasn't president until 1933. WWI ended in 1918

[Kubumba Tribe]

Is capitalism compatible with Islam?

I have a hard time believing Marxism is, because if capitalism is anti-Islamic due to being materialist, an ideology that is literally built around dialectical materialism sure is.

Well, it depends. Capitalism, or any economic system, is fine as long as it adhere to Shari'ah.