Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[Islamic Government]

The Qur'anic verses talk about what Allah (SWT) wil do to them, not what we should do. Allah (SWT) makes clear differences between the 2.

False, you didn't read carefully.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands".

[Kubumba Tribe]

The Qur'anic verses talk about what Allah (SWT) wil do to them, not what we should do. Allah (SWT) makes clear differences between the 2.

FalSE, yu didn't read carefully.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands

For War

[Kubumba Tribe]

Link to source? And why didn't you show us this Hadith's grade?


So...madmen who rape, torture, kill innocent people are figthers for Al-Islam now? I hope you're referring to another group of people other than ISIS, Jabhat ash-Sham (former Al-Nusra IIRC), their affiliates, and others who've ruined innocent people's lives and haven't repented.

Shias are worse than ISIS could ever be

Sure

[Islamic Government]

FalSE, yu didn't read carefully.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands

For War

We are at war.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

For War

We are at war.

That doesn't mean we kill every non-Muslim we see.

[Islamic Government]

We are at war.

That doesn't mean we kill every non-Muslim we see.

I didn't say that.

[Kubumba Tribe]

That doesn't mean we kill every non-Muslim we see.

I didn't say that.

Ok, gotcha.

[Hazestan]

What happened to Joch and Free Rhenish States?

They both got DEAT'ed

Anyway, the final phase of the liberation of western Mosul is underway. Unrelated, does anyone know if there are any Islamist Kurdish groups?

There are some Islamist Kurdish groups/factions in both FSA and ISIS

[Reploid Productions]

Shias are worse than ISIS could ever be

Given your history, both on this puppet and more recently on Neuwland, the fact you haven't had a warning on this account since the middle of last year loses a lot of the weight it might have otherwise had. Calling an entire religious sect worse than terrorists is flat-out trolling. Given your extensive warning history, you would be well advised to review the site rules and bring your behavior in line with them than to try and spread warnings out across multiple nations. Do keep in mind that the ban applies to you, the player, meaning you need to stay off the forums for the next week with ALL of your puppets.

*** Ghuraba Al-Khorusani, 7-day ban for trolling. ***


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[Islamic Government]

Shias are worse than ISIS could ever be

Given your history, both on this puppet and more recently on Neuwland, the fact you haven't had a warning on this account since the middle of last year loses a lot of the weight it might have otherwise had. Calling an entire religious sect worse than terrorists is flat-out trolling. Given your extensive warning history, you would be well advised to review the site rules and bring your behavior in line with them than to try and spread warnings out across multiple nations. Do keep in mind that the ban applies to you, the player, meaning you need to stay off the forums for the next week with ALL of your puppets.

*** Ghuraba Al-Khorusani, 7-day ban for trolling. ***


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He was just expressing his point of view. A moderator should not ban people based on the fact that their opinion is different from the mod's opinion. To you, ISIS could be terrorists, to others are not, to you Shia could be better, to others (including me) they could be worse. I think this ban is unfair and is against free speech.

If someone does not insult or threaten, he should be able to express his views. Aren't these the rules?

[Islamic Government]

#JeSuisGhurabaAlKhorusani

[Shazbotdom]

Given your history, both on this puppet and more recently on Neuwland, the fact you haven't had a warning on this account since the middle of last year loses a lot of the weight it might have otherwise had. Calling an entire religious sect worse than terrorists is flat-out trolling. Given your extensive warning history, you would be well advised to review the site rules and bring your behavior in line with them than to try and spread warnings out across multiple nations. Do keep in mind that the ban applies to you, the player, meaning you need to stay off the forums for the next week with ALL of your puppets.

*** Ghuraba Al-Khorusani, 7-day ban for trolling. ***


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

He was just expressing his point of view. A moderator should not ban people based on the fact that their opinion is different from the mod's opinion. To you, ISIS could be terrorists, to others are not, to you Shia could be better, to others (including me) they could be worse. I think this ban is unfair and is against free speech.

If someone does not insult or threaten, he should be able to express his views. Aren't these the rules?

You have no freedom of speech here. And the rules go far beyond that, you should read them.

[Islamic Government]

He was just expressing his point of view. A moderator should not ban people based on the fact that their opinion is different from the mod's opinion. To you, ISIS could be terrorists, to others are not, to you Shia could be better, to others (including me) they could be worse. I think this ban is unfair and is against free speech.

If someone does not insult or threaten, he should be able to express his views. Aren't these the rules?

You have no freedom of speech here. And the rules go far beyond that, you should read them.

Can you tell us which part of the rules says you can ban a user because you don't agree with him?

[Shazbotdom]

You have no freedom of speech here. And the rules go far beyond that, you should read them.

Can you tell us which part of the rules says you can ban a user because you don't agree with him?

Read the rules yourself. Anger is not about differing opinions, is how you word them.

[Islamic Government]

Can you tell us which part of the rules says you can ban a user because you don't agree with him?

Read the rules yourself. Anger is not about differing opinions, is how you word them.

"Shias are worse than ISIS could ever be"

How he should have worded that?

I've read the rules and I don't remember it's written you can ban people because they have different points of view.

[Hazestan]

Read the rules yourself. Anger is not about differing opinions, is how you word them.

"Shias are worse than ISIS could ever be"

How he should have worded that?

''In my opinion, ...''

[Islamic Government]

"Shias are worse than ISIS could ever be"

How he should have worded that?

''In my opinion, ...''

That's implied, every statement we write is our opinion, it doesn't mean we must always write "In my opinion" whenever we write them (and I don't think the rules require that)

[Luminesa]

Given your history, both on this puppet and more recently on Neuwland, the fact you haven't had a warning on this account since the middle of last year loses a lot of the weight it might have otherwise had. Calling an entire religious sect worse than terrorists is flat-out trolling. Given your extensive warning history, you would be well advised to review the site rules and bring your behavior in line with them than to try and spread warnings out across multiple nations. Do keep in mind that the ban applies to you, the player, meaning you need to stay off the forums for the next week with ALL of your puppets.

*** Ghuraba Al-Khorusani, 7-day ban for trolling. ***


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

He was just expressing his point of view. A moderator should not ban people based on the fact that their opinion is different from the mod's opinion. To you, ISIS could be terrorists, to others are not, to you Shia could be better, to others (including me) they could be worse. I think this ban is unfair and is against free speech.

If someone does not insult or threaten, he should be able to express his views. Aren't these the rules?

You said an entire sect of Muslims was worse than ISIS. ISIS is a terrorist group, and there is nothing to it. ISIS attacks free speech, they attack anyone who disagrees with them. There's no getting out of that one.

[Hazestan]

''In my opinion, ...''

That's implied, every statement we write is our opinion, it doesn't mean we must always write "In my opinion" whenever we write them (and I don't think the rules require that)

No, there is no implication.

There is a difference between ''Group A is bad'' and ''in my opinion, group A is bad because ...''

One is stating a thing as a fact, the other as an opinion.

[Islamic Government]

You said an entire sect of Muslims was worse than ISIS.

According to the rules, it's his right to say that, even if you don't agree.

ISIS is a terrorist group

To you, not to everyone.

ISIS attacks free speech

Just like you.

they attack anyone who disagrees with them

What makes you think Shias don't do the same? I'm an ex-Shia, and I confirm Shias are worse than ISIS.

[Luminesa]

You said an entire sect of Muslims was worse than ISIS.

According to the rules, it's his right to say that, even if you don't agree.

ISIS is a terrorist group

To you, not to everyone.

ISIS attacks free speech

Just like you.

[/quote]

What makes you think Shias don't do the sam? I'm an ex-Shia, and I confirm Shias are worse than ISIS.[/quote]
That's like saying, "Catholics are worse than the Taliban!" It's a generalization. What you are promoting is hate-speech against various religious sects.

[Islamic Government]

That's implied, every statement we write is our opinion, it doesn't mean we must always write "In my opinion" whenever we write them (and I don't think the rules require that)

No, there is no implication.

There is a difference between ''Group A is bad'' and ''in my opinion, group A is bad because ...''

One is stating a thing as a fact, the other as an opinion.

What makes a statement an opinion is not the presence of the word "opinion" in it.

[Islamic Government]

That's like saying, "Catholics are worse than the Taliban!" It's a generalization. What you are promoting is hate-speech against various religious sects.

It could be a generalization but doesn't justify the ban. You could not agree, but banning him for that? Unfair.

[Reploid Productions]

Shias are worse than ISIS.

This. This is not wise. You JUST saw somebody else get smacked. "All X are Y" is textbook trolling. "All Christians are <negative thing>" is trolling. "All Jews are <negative thing" is trolling. "All Shias are <negative thing>" is trolling.

Given you don't have an especially stellar history yourself...

*** Islamic Government, DEAT for trolling. ***


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[Islamic Government2]

"All X are Y" is textbook trolling. "

But how can you enter a person's brain and find out that he is trolling? Telepathy perhaps?

Which textbook are you talking about?