Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[El-Amin Caliphate]

http://legacy.quran.com/24/31

That verse only obligates the covering of ones privates, it doesn't specify the covering of the head or face.

It says "Wear a headscarf."

[Risastorstein]

Can you be a muslim woman and not wearing a hijab?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Can you be a muslim woman and not wearing a hijab?

Yes, but she'd be trangressing.

[Risastorstein]

To what extent "transgessing" is "tolerated"?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

To what extent "transgessing" is "tolerated"?

It's not a Muslim's place to punish another Muslim if there is no punishment mandated by Allah (SWT). So in the case of not wearing hijab, there is no punishment for that. Meaning, that this issue is between the Muslimah and Allah (SWT). Now, we Muslims can adivise her, but it's not our place to force her.

[Alsheb]

That verse only obligates the covering of ones privates, it doesn't specify the covering of the head or face.

It says "Wear a headscarf."

It says "wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests", i.e. if they are wearing a sort of headcover (which was a traditional Arab piece of clothing), to ensure it also covers their chest. The emphasis here is on the chest, not the head itself.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

It says "Wear a headscarf."

It says "wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests", i.e. if they are wearing a sort of headcover (which was a traditional Arab piece of clothing), to ensure it also covers their chest. The emphasis here is on the chest, not the head itself.

They still have to cover their head.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

Hijab explained by Scholar
Hijab and Beard explained by another actual Scholar of Islam
Hijab explained by a female scholar

The Quran says: "Oh you believe answer the call of Allah and his messenger when he calls you to what gives you life" let us remember there is no need to fear the blame of the blamers, we need to be firm in our faith in Allah (AWJ) and his Prophet (SAAWS). Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal said "If you want Allah to be persistent in giving you what you love, be persistent in doing what he loves." He loves us obeying him and his messenger this is the mercy of Allah, Our God is merciful he doesn't need us but we need him, let us respond to the mercy of God by doing the things which he asks of us to do, Inshallah.

[Gondolaulus]

Do you support veiled women? Why? Do you think it should be compulsory?

(These are genuine questions, I just want to know the opinion of actual muslim people)

Hijab should be compulsory. Not only because it is recommended according to Quran, but also because I personally like women with hijab more than without.

[Alsheb]

Do you support veiled women? Why? Do you think it should be compulsory?

(These are genuine questions, I just want to know the opinion of actual muslim people)

Hijab should be compulsory. Not only because it is recommended according to Quran, but also because I personally like women with hijab more than without.

That does sound like you want to oblige it because of your own preference.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Do you support veiled women? Why? Do you think it should be compulsory?

(These are genuine questions, I just want to know the opinion of actual muslim people)

Hijab should be compulsory. Not only because it is recommended according to Quran, but also because I personally like women with hijab more than without.

But only for Muslims, not anyone else.

[Gondolaulus]

Hijab should be compulsory. Not only because it is recommended according to Quran, but also because I personally like women with hijab more than without.

That does sound like you want to oblige it because of your own preference.

Then you should re-read what I wrote down.

Hijab should be compulsory. Not only because it is recommended according to Quran, but also because I personally like women with hijab more than without.

But only for Muslims, not anyone else.

Well, of course.

[Alsheb]

That does sound like you want to oblige it because of your own preference.

Then you should re-read what I wrote down.

Well, you say it is recommended in the Quran. That doesn't seem to be connected to wether or not to obligate it.

[Gondolaulus]

Then you should re-read what I wrote down.

Well, you say it is recommended in the Quran. That doesn't seem to be connected to wether or not to obligate it.

Well, yes, it's recommended, hence oblige it.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

Do you support veiled women? Why? Do you think it should be compulsory?

(These are genuine questions, I just want to know the opinion of actual muslim people)

Hijab should be compulsory. Not only because it is recommended according to Quran, but also because I personally like women with hijab more than without.

It is Wajib and it doesn't matter if you love it or hate it, it matters what Allah's decree is.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

Well, you say it is recommended in the Quran. That doesn't seem to be connected to wether or not to obligate it.

Well, yes, it's recommended, hence oblige it.

In Islam what's recommended and what's obligatory are different, obviously if we are recommended something in Islam we should do it but it's not required where as if something is obligatory you could go to Hell for not doing what was commanded.

[Ghuraba Al-Khorusani]

Hijab should be compulsory. Not only because it is recommended according to Quran, but also because I personally like women with hijab more than without.

But only for Muslims, not anyone else.

Christians and Jews have their own versions of Hijab and Niqab, look at Nuns or traditional Jewish woman's clothing even Pre-Islamic nations like much of Central Asia and Afghanistan had their own coverings for women much more restrictive than Niqab or Hijab.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

But only for Muslims, not anyone else.

Christians and Jews have their own versions of Hijab and Niqab, look at Nuns or traditional Jewish woman's clothing even Pre-Islamic nations like much of Central Asia and Afghanistan had their own coverings for women much more restrictive than Niqab or Hijab.

Yes, hello. I like to lurk here. I find these discussions fascinating. Here's my addition to this:

Under traditional Jewish teaching, dating back to the days of nomadism, it is said that men should always keep their heads covered in public with a turban or a simple cover, whilst women do similar once they are married. This was not always followed, as the ancient kingdom made a very thick line distinguishing religious law against secular law, and often attempted to avoid mingling the two (while it was possible to get religious-law convictions, it was a very burdensome and difficult process). Even still, it is an ancient Semitic custom found in most cultures of the Middle East, from Babylon to Bedouin.

[Seraven]

Hijab should be compulsory. Not only because it is recommended according to Quran, but also because I personally like women with hijab more than without.

But only for Muslims, not anyone else.

Of course.

[Gondolaulus]

Well, yes, it's recommended, hence oblige it.

In Islam what's recommended and what's obligatory are different, obviously if we are recommended something in Islam we should do it but it's not required where as if something is obligatory you could go to Hell for not doing what was commanded.

Yeah but it's always good for Hasanah

[Nioya]

Did jochistan make a new account? I'm trying to find that article he posted about Aisha.

[Kubumba Tribe]

He CTE'd

[Mahdistan]

Did jochistan make a new account? I'm trying to find that article he posted about Aisha.

Here are the articles he had linked in his old signature:

http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_1 ... prover.htm

http://hameem.org/index.php/multimedia/ ... e-upon-him

He had three, but the other one no longer functions.

I really hope that he isn't a DOS now. He was a very good friend, and helped me through a very difficult time. Easily one of the smartest people on this site.

[Pasong Tirad]

Hi, I like to lurk here sometimes. I'm seeing a lot of terms like (SWT) (AWJ) (SAAWS). What are those, exactly?

[Mahdistan]

Hi, I like to lurk here sometimes. I'm seeing a lot of terms like (SWT) (AWJ) (SAAWS). What are those, exactly?

SWT= Subḥānahū wa-taʿāl- 'May He be praised and exalted'

AWJ= Azza wa-jalla- 'The Glorified/Exalted/Mighty and Sublime'

These are honorifics which are generally placed after God, as a way of showing absolute respect.

SAAWS= Salla Allahu alaihi wa-sallam- 'May Allah's peace and blessings be upon him':

An alternative to SAW, or the alternative used most often in English, PBUH- Peace Be Upon Him. These are placed after saying the names of any of the prophets, for the same reason. There's some debate as to whether or not we are obligated to use these, but I think just about all Muslims agree that absolute respect is entitled to God and the prophets, so we tend to use them as often as possible.