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by Jolthig » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:07 pm
by Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:11 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Jolthig » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:12 pm
by Genivaria » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:15 pm
The majority of traditional sources state that Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham,[28] when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina.[29][30][31]
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.
by Geneviev » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:09 pm
by Jolthig » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:10 pm
Geneviev wrote:Is there someone present who is completely, entirely objective and extremely learned in all religions? I need to be completely, absolutely, totally, definitely sure about this religion before I continue to risk my health for it.
by Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:11 pm
Geneviev wrote:Is there someone present who is completely, entirely objective and extremely learned in all religions? I need to be completely, absolutely, totally, definitely sure about this religion before I continue to risk my health for it.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Geneviev » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:12 pm
by New Emeline » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:14 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Geneviev wrote:Is there someone present who is completely, entirely objective and extremely learned in all religions? I need to be completely, absolutely, totally, definitely sure about this religion before I continue to risk my health for it.
You know the price of heresy as well as I do.
by Geneviev » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:15 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Geneviev wrote:Is there someone present who is completely, entirely objective and extremely learned in all religions? I need to be completely, absolutely, totally, definitely sure about this religion before I continue to risk my health for it.
You know the price of heresy as well as I do.
by Jolthig » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:18 pm
Geneviev wrote:Jolthig wrote:What do you mean by health?
Firstly, I'm losing a lot of sleep to reading the Quran and constantly searching every other concept on Google two hundred times. Secondly, stress is a real problem if you're seriously considering conversion to the one religion that everyone around you is constantly condemning. So I need to be sure before continuing.
by Geneviev » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:21 pm
Jolthig wrote:Geneviev wrote:Firstly, I'm losing a lot of sleep to reading the Quran and constantly searching every other concept on Google two hundred times. Secondly, stress is a real problem if you're seriously considering conversion to the one religion that everyone around you is constantly condemning. So I need to be sure before continuing.
Not everyone condemns Islam.
You haven't for sure
by Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:35 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Albrenia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:36 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Geneviev wrote:The question is if it is heresy. One way or another, I'm fairly sure I'm considered a heretic by some groups (yeah, Catholics, and yeah, Baptists, and definitely Pentecostals).
Undoubtedly you are a heretic already, but Islam is quite different in its blasphemies, such as rejecting the crucifixion and divinity of Christ as well as rewriting the works of the prophets.
by Geneviev » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:37 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Geneviev wrote:The question is if it is heresy. One way or another, I'm fairly sure I'm considered a heretic by some groups (yeah, Catholics, and yeah, Baptists, and definitely Pentecostals).
Undoubtedly you are a heretic already, but Islam is quite different in its blasphemies, such as rejecting the crucifixion and divinity of Christ as well as rewriting the works of the prophets.
by Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:39 pm
Geneviev wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Undoubtedly you are a heretic already, but Islam is quite different in its blasphemies, such as rejecting the crucifixion and divinity of Christ as well as rewriting the works of the prophets.
"Undoubtedly you are a heretic already" is - fun fact - not a good way to start out when speaking to a near-apostate. That being said, evidence?
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Jolthig » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:39 pm
Geneviev wrote:
It would be more than awkward if I were to be condemning Islam. But my parents, friends, pastors, all of them keep saying that you guys are all terrorists who are brainwashed into hating all Christians. I know that's not true, but that's what they say.
by Jolthig » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:41 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Geneviev wrote:The question is if it is heresy. One way or another, I'm fairly sure I'm considered a heretic by some groups (yeah, Catholics, and yeah, Baptists, and definitely Pentecostals).
Undoubtedly you are a heretic already, but Islam is quite different in its blasphemies, such as rejecting the crucifixion and divinity of Christ as well as rewriting the works of the prophets.
Remember John 3:16 and keep it close to heart.
by Socialist Czechia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:42 pm
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Geneviev » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:43 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Geneviev wrote:"Undoubtedly you are a heretic already" is - fun fact - not a good way to start out when speaking to a near-apostate. That being said, evidence?
What are you asking evidence for? The tenets of Protestantism are condemned as heresy, that being Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide, but any Muslim can tell you that they reject many of Christ's aspects.
by Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:47 pm
Jolthig wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Undoubtedly you are a heretic already, but Islam is quite different in its blasphemies, such as rejecting the crucifixion and divinity of Christ as well as rewriting the works of the prophets.
Remember John 3:16 and keep it close to heart.
In the end, it's really his choice to choose his religion. God guides whom he wills.
We may not agree on who God is or what he is, but I hope we can at least agree to the fact that there is only one God, who sent Moses, Jesus, and Abraham.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by The Alma Mater » Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:38 pm
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Jolthig wrote:Other than that, preaching went well today alhamdulilah though another Islamophobe said to my friends on the other side of the block the he'd rather shoot a Muslim than meet one. And he was given the response of peace.
These people are so blind and arrogant that it's not even about religion anymore. It's now about personalities
I wanna laugh, but considering the violence we face....maybe not.
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