Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[Genivaria]

Again, he sounds like an Evangelical Christian minister to me.

Excuse me?

The hypocrisy because of 'girl on girl is hot' thing I mean.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Is there any Islamic evidence for this?

It’s my personal opinion

Yeah, and your personal opinion is out of wack with Al-Islam. Allah (SWT) forbade all forms of homosexuality, just like he banned all forms of other forms of illegal sexual intercourse.

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But then the millennials will starve.

As a millennial this stereotype pisses me off so much, avocados are fucking disgusting.

I like avacados.
Although I’m also not a millennial.

[The Alma Mater]

Why inconsistent ? You can be in favour of women wearing hijabs while opposing men doing the same for instance.
Why would similar principles not be valid for sexual intercourse ?

The female form is inherently different than the male one. Different parts of a woman are alluring than a male.

And as such, you can treat a woman being attracted to a woman differently than a man being attracted to a man without being a hypocrite.

Or you can just believe that homosexuality is wrong with reasoning like "ejaculation should never deliberately be done in someone or something who has no chance of conceiving your child' (singing of "every sperm is sacred" optional).
Which obviously is not a problem for females amongst themselves.

[Mujahidah]

The female form is inherently different than the male one. Different parts of a woman are alluring than a male.

And as such, you can treat a woman being attracted to a woman differently than a man being attracted to a man without being a hypocrite.

Or you can just believe that homosexuality is wrong with reasoning like "ejaculation should never deliberately be done in someone or something who has no chance of conceiving your child' (singing of "every sperm is sacred" optional).
Which obviously is not a problem for females amongst themselves.

There is also the issue of sexual activity outside of marriage being forbidden, and as two people of the same gender cannot, religiously, be married, its a moot point. They can't have sex.

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The female form is inherently different than the male one. Different parts of a woman are alluring than a male.

And as such, you can treat a woman being attracted to a woman differently than a man being attracted to a man without being a hypocrite.

Or you can just believe that homosexuality is wrong with reasoning like "ejaculation should never deliberately be done in someone or something who has no chance of conceiving your child' (singing of "every sperm is sacred" optional).
Which obviously is not a problem for females amongst themselves.

So you’re saying it wouldn’t be hypocritical to say women can “sin” but not men?

[Larin]

It’s my personal opinion

We get that. The question is why should women be able to have same-sex relations but not men?

Because i think that anal penetration is not okay, and dangerous, and two woman don’t do that, so that’s why i think a man can’t have a same-sex relationship but a woman can

[Kubumba Tribe]

The female form is inherently different than the male one. Different parts of a woman are alluring than a male.

And as such, you can treat a woman being attracted to a woman differently than a man being attracted to a man without being a hypocrite.

Hm, point made. But Islamically speaking, that's hypocrisy.

[Mujahidah]

We get that. The question is why should women be able to have same-sex relations but not men?

Because i think that anal penetration is not okay, and dangerous, and two woman don’t do that, so that’s why i think a man can’t have a same-sex relationship but a woman can

But two women cannot get married. In what context would female-on-female sex not be extramarital and therefore forbidden?

[The Alma Mater]

And as such, you can treat a woman being attracted to a woman differently than a man being attracted to a man without being a hypocrite.

Or you can just believe that homosexuality is wrong with reasoning like "ejaculation should never deliberately be done in someone or something who has no chance of conceiving your child' (singing of "every sperm is sacred" optional).
Which obviously is not a problem for females amongst themselves.

There is also the issue of sexual activity outside of marriage being forbidden, and as two people of the same gender cannot, religiously, be married, its a moot point. They can't have sex.

Well, yes - that's the "against Islam" part. I was only adressing the "hypocritical" part.

[Genivaria]

We get that. The question is why should women be able to have same-sex relations but not men?

Because i think that anal penetration is not okay, and dangerous, and two woman don’t do that, so that’s why i think a man can’t have a same-sex relationship but a woman can

Plenty of straight couples have anal sex, it's a good way of having pleasure and intimacy without the risk of pregnancy.

[Kubumba Tribe]

We get that. The question is why should women be able to have same-sex relations but not men?

Because i think that anal penetration is not okay, and dangerous

Well, yeah, that's against Al-Islam

and two woman don’t do that, so that’s why i think a man can’t have a same-sex relationship but a woman can

So what if they can't? That's still wrong.
Also, there is a way for 2 women to have anal sex....

[Larin]

Excuse me?

The hypocrisy because of 'girl on girl is hot' thing I mean.

Not even true (i guess you are accusing me of watching porn, which i don’t)

[Genivaria]

Because i think that anal penetration is not okay, and dangerous, and two woman don’t do that, so that’s why i think a man can’t have a same-sex relationship but a woman can

But two women cannot get married. In what context would female-on-female sex not be extramarital and therefore forbidden?

Ummmm depending on the country they can.

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The hypocrisy because of 'girl on girl is hot' thing I mean.

Not even true (i guess you are accusing me of watching porn, which i don’t)

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[Cekoviu]

Continuing my Georgia example: they allow pop and hip-hop, tattoos, allow women to wear the clothes that they'd like, and you can change your legal gender marker or be in a gay relationship (ostensibly) without being arrested or attacked. But they aren't American and haven't been the subject of American imperialism, same-sex marriage is illegal, nudity isn't legal in public areas as far as I know, and may or may not have "[gone] too far in technology" depending on what you mean by that. So how are you supposed to class it?

That technology should remain the same as it is now, or they should cut it back a bit, and that you can’t change your gender, and that a man shouldn’t be allowed to have a relationship with a another man, and that same-sex marriage should be outlawed, pop and hip-hop and tattoos and piercings should be banned, and i think that woman should wear decent clothes (like a Niqab or a Hijab and a abaya), that’s how i see and want it.

You didn't answer my question.

[Larin]

Because i think that anal penetration is not okay, and dangerous, and two woman don’t do that, so that’s why i think a man can’t have a same-sex relationship but a woman can

Plenty of straight couples have anal sex, it's a good way of having pleasure and intimacy without the risk of pregnancy.

Still i don’t like anal penetration at all, because it is dangerous

In a response to Kubumba Tribe: I know they can have anal penetration, but i think that anal penetration is dangerous and shoulsn’t be allowed at all

[Cekoviu]

What do you mean?

Same for women. Btw this should only apply to Muslims.

Some piercings are halal, shy should pop and hip-hop be banned?

Well as long as it's in accordance to the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah, I'm down. But technological stagnation is not a fardh.

I do only support Lesbianism

[Genivaria]

The hypocrisy because of 'girl on girl is hot' thing I mean.

Not even true (i guess you are accusing me of watching porn, which i don’t)

Somehow I doubt that.

[Mujahidah]

But two women cannot get married. In what context would female-on-female sex not be extramarital and therefore forbidden?

Ummmm depending on the country they can.

I'm speaking religiously.

[Genivaria]

Plenty of straight couples have anal sex, it's a good way of having pleasure and intimacy without the risk of pregnancy.

Still i don’t like anal penetration at all, because it is dangerous

In a response to Kubumba Tribe: I know they can have anal penetration, but i think that anal penetration is dangerous and shoulsn’t be allowed at all

So is normal sex.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Plenty of straight couples have anal sex, it's a good way of having pleasure and intimacy without the risk of pregnancy.

Still i don’t like anal penetration at all, because it is dangerous

In a response to Kubumba Tribe: I know they can have anal penetration, but i think that anal penetration is dangerous and shoulsn’t be allowed at all

You shouldn't like it regardless of whether it's dangerous or not, the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) forbade it. Just like all forms of homosexuality are haram.

[Cekoviu]

What?

I think that two gays are gross, and should be banned, and that two lesbians are okay and should be allowed

I literally can't even rn

[Cekoviu]

I think that two gays are gross, and should be banned, and that two lesbians are okay and should be allowed

Why? You’re basing legislature on what is and isn’t gross? I think cottage cheese is gross, I’m not going to ban it.

Them's fightin' words, m8

[Genivaria]

Ummmm depending on the country they can.

I'm speaking religiously.

Well for your interpretation I guess.