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What Denomination are You?

Sunni
132
28%
Sunni (Sufi)
31
7%
Sunni (Salafi)
26
6%
Ithna'ashari/Twelver Shi'a
30
6%
Other Shi'a
15
3%
Ibadi
13
3%
Ahmadiyya
11
2%
Qur'anist
17
4%
Nondenominational
50
11%
Other
145
31%
 
Total votes : 470

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The Alma Mater
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:35 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Larin wrote:
Not necessarily but i find two gays indeed gross


Are you going to answer the question or just keep being vague?


I am assuming he is 12 or so. You might wish to adjust your questions accordingly ;)
Getting an education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease.
It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on.
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Mujahidah
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:35 pm

Dylar wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Eh. To each their own. Just don't try and talk about the supposedly-a-music-group Creed

Oh, you better take that back. Creed is amazing.


Nope. Scott needs to Stapp. As a Pearl Jam fan I refuse to hear him latch on to one element of one of my favorite singer's iconic voices and drive it into the ground harder than a meteorite killing the dinosaurs.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
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New Emeline
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Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:36 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Larin wrote:
Idk what Hadron is but on robots they really need to stop, and a iPhone X is cool by me

The Large Hadron Collider is a multi-billion dollar scientific testing device which scientists use to replicate the creation of the world to usurp God.

Please be sarcasm please be sarcasm

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Larin
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Postby Larin » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:36 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Larin wrote:
Idk what Hadron is but on robots they really need to stop, and a iPhone X is cool by me


Ah. Let me guess. You dislike artificial intelligence, cloning, genetic modification and basicly everything that somewhat resembles creating or redesigning "life" ?


Almost all of that, expect for reviving
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Mujahidah
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:36 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Are you going to answer the question or just keep being vague?


I am assuming he is 12 or so. You might wish to adjust your questions accordingly ;)


No I don't think he's twelve. Unfortunately some converts have very limited education/instruction and so latch onto odd/fringe/extreme beliefs.
Your friendly, quirky neighborhood muslim girl
The Parkus Empire wrote:To paraphrase my hero, Richard Nixon: she's pink right down to her hijab.
The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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Larin
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Postby Larin » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Are you going to answer the question or just keep being vague?


I am assuming he is 12 or so. You might wish to adjust your questions accordingly ;)


I am 21
بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
Current date: 28 Jumada t-Tania 1440
'akhbar alkhilafa:

Islamism, Caliphate, Shari'ah, Saudi Arabia, Jihadism
Capitalism, Democracy, Israel, Gregorian calendar, nuclear weapons, LGBT

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New Emeline
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm

Larin wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
I am assuming he is 12 or so. You might wish to adjust your questions accordingly ;)


I am 21

Oh boy

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Mujahidah
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm

Larin wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
I am assuming he is 12 or so. You might wish to adjust your questions accordingly ;)


I am 21


Awesome. A couple years older than me. Still, though, are you going to answer the question?
Your friendly, quirky neighborhood muslim girl
The Parkus Empire wrote:To paraphrase my hero, Richard Nixon: she's pink right down to her hijab.
The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Founded: Apr 05, 2015
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm

Larin wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
I am assuming he is 12 or so. You might wish to adjust your questions accordingly ;)


I am 21

4 yrs older than me :)
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The Empire of Pretantia
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Founded: Oct 18, 2012
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:38 pm

Is the movie Four Lions halal?
ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
Nightcore
Comcast
Zimbabwe
Believing the Ottomans were the third Roman Empire
Parodies of the Gadsden flag
The Fate Series
US politics

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Genivaria
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Founded: Mar 29, 2011
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:38 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
I am assuming he is 12 or so. You might wish to adjust your questions accordingly ;)


No I don't think he's twelve. Unfortunately some converts have very limited education/instruction and so latch onto odd/fringe/extreme beliefs.

Again, he sounds like an Evangelical Christian minister to me.
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Larin
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Founded: Sep 26, 2017
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Postby Larin » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:39 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Larin wrote:I do only support Lesbianism


What? :eyebrow:


I think that two gays are gross, and should be banned, and that two lesbians are okay and should be allowed
بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
Current date: 28 Jumada t-Tania 1440
'akhbar alkhilafa:

Islamism, Caliphate, Shari'ah, Saudi Arabia, Jihadism
Capitalism, Democracy, Israel, Gregorian calendar, nuclear weapons, LGBT

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Mujahidah
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Founded: Mar 03, 2018
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:39 pm

Larin wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
What? :eyebrow:


I think that two gays are gross, and should be banned, and that two lesbians are okay and should be allowed


No no I caught that its the "why" that I and the rest of us are wondering about.
Your friendly, quirky neighborhood muslim girl
The Parkus Empire wrote:To paraphrase my hero, Richard Nixon: she's pink right down to her hijab.
The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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New Emeline
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Founded: Jan 16, 2018
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:40 pm

Larin wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
What? :eyebrow:


I think that two gays are gross, and should be banned, and that two lesbians are okay and should be allowed

Why? You’re basing legislature on what is and isn’t gross? I think cottage cheese is gross, I’m not going to ban it.

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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:40 pm

Larin wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
What? :eyebrow:


I think that two gays are gross, and should be banned, and that two lesbians are okay and should be allowed

I think we can guess what your internet history looks like.
Anarcho-Communist, Democratic Confederalist
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:40 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Larin wrote:
I think that two gays are gross, and should be banned, and that two lesbians are okay and should be allowed

Why? You’re basing legislature on what is and isn’t gross? I think cottage cheese is gross, I’m not going to ban it.

I support banning avocados.
Anarcho-Communist, Democratic Confederalist
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The Alma Mater
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Founded: May 23, 2004
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:40 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Larin wrote:
Not necessarily but i find two gays indeed gross

Still, why support female homosexuality and not male? That sounds inconsistent and outta line with Al-Islam.


Why inconsistent ? You can be in favour of women wearing hijabs while opposing men doing the same for instance.
Why would similar principles not be valid for sexual intercourse ?
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Getting an education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease.
It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on.
- Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

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Larin
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Postby Larin » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:40 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
No I don't think he's twelve. Unfortunately some converts have very limited education/instruction and so latch onto odd/fringe/extreme beliefs.

Again, he sounds like an Evangelical Christian minister to me.


Excuse me?
بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
Current date: 28 Jumada t-Tania 1440
'akhbar alkhilafa:

Islamism, Caliphate, Shari'ah, Saudi Arabia, Jihadism
Capitalism, Democracy, Israel, Gregorian calendar, nuclear weapons, LGBT

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Kubumba Tribe
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Founded: Apr 09, 2015
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:41 pm

Larin wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
What? :eyebrow:


I think that two gays are gross, and should be banned, and that two lesbians are okay and should be allowed

Is there any Islamic evidence for this?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Mujahidah
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:41 pm

Genivaria wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Why? You’re basing legislature on what is and isn’t gross? I think cottage cheese is gross, I’m not going to ban it.

I support banning avocados.


But then the millennials will starve.
Your friendly, quirky neighborhood muslim girl
The Parkus Empire wrote:To paraphrase my hero, Richard Nixon: she's pink right down to her hijab.
The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:41 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Still, why support female homosexuality and not male? That sounds inconsistent and outta line with Al-Islam.


Why inconsistent ? You can be in favour of women wearing hijabs while opposing men doing the same for instance.

Yeah, you'd able be committing hypocrisy for doing so.
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Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
I'm a New Afrikan Muslim :) https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality Sister nation of El-Amin Caliphate
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Mujahidah
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:42 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Still, why support female homosexuality and not male? That sounds inconsistent and outta line with Al-Islam.


Why inconsistent ? You can be in favour of women wearing hijabs while opposing men doing the same for instance.
Why would similar principles not be valid for sexual intercourse ?


The female form is inherently different than the male one. Different parts of a woman are alluring than a male.
Your friendly, quirky neighborhood muslim girl
The Parkus Empire wrote:To paraphrase my hero, Richard Nixon: she's pink right down to her hijab.
The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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Larin
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Founded: Sep 26, 2017
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Postby Larin » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:42 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Larin wrote:
I think that two gays are gross, and should be banned, and that two lesbians are okay and should be allowed

Is there any Islamic evidence for this?


It’s my personal opinion
بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
Current date: 28 Jumada t-Tania 1440
'akhbar alkhilafa:

Islamism, Caliphate, Shari'ah, Saudi Arabia, Jihadism
Capitalism, Democracy, Israel, Gregorian calendar, nuclear weapons, LGBT

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Genivaria
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Founded: Mar 29, 2011
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:42 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I support banning avocados.


But then the millennials will starve.

As a millennial this stereotype pisses me off so much, avocados are fucking disgusting.
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Mujahidah
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Founded: Mar 03, 2018
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:43 pm

Larin wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Is there any Islamic evidence for this?


It’s my personal opinion


We get that. The question is why should women be able to have same-sex relations but not men?
Your friendly, quirky neighborhood muslim girl
The Parkus Empire wrote:To paraphrase my hero, Richard Nixon: she's pink right down to her hijab.
The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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