Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[Larin]

Isn't most of the Bible and Quran both largely silent on the issues of same-sex female sexuality? Not surprising considering who they were written for.

Both sexes can't engage in homosexual relations and intercourse, and Holy Qur'an was recited for all people, in all times.

True

[El-Amin Caliphate]

In Saudi Arabia:
"Under the country’s interpretation of sharia law, a married man engaging in sodomy or any non-Muslim who commits sodomy with a Muslim can be stoned to death. All sex outside of marriage is illegal."

Oh dear. Okay.

Yeah, SA's effed up.

[Mujahidah]

Only in Iran? Also, what? Deserving of death?

In Saudi Arabia:
"Under the country’s interpretation of sharia law, a married man engaging in sodomy or any non-Muslim who commits sodomy with a Muslim can be stoned to death. All sex outside of marriage is illegal."

Saudi Arabia is not the standard, and are rather despicable.

[Mujahidah]

Only in Iran? Also, what? Deserving of death?

Yeah, Muslim-majority countries have gone haywire unfortunately.
As for Muslims supporting transgenderism, that's wrong. the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah speak against it. I also think it's inconsistent to support the T and not the LGB.

Those two ayat don't necessarily have anything to do with transpeople, particularly the latter which is a rather general statement. And the Hadith could easily be viewed as referring to crossdressing.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yeah, Muslim-majority countries have gone haywire unfortunately.
As for Muslims supporting transgenderism, that's wrong. the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah speak against it. I also think it's inconsistent to support the T and not the LGB.

Those two ayat don't necessarily have anything to do with transpeople, particularly the latter which is a rather general statement. And the Hadith could easily be viewed as referring to crossdressing.

And also refers to people who want to change their sex. Those people are obviously imitating the opposite sex, which is wrong in Al-Islam.

[Mujahidah]

Those two ayat don't necessarily have anything to do with transpeople, particularly the latter which is a rather general statement. And the Hadith could easily be viewed as referring to crossdressing.

And also refers to people who want to change their sex. Those people are obviously imitating the opposite sex, which is wrong in Al-Islam.

That's one possible interpretation. There are others, and there are a number who disagree.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

And also refers to people who want to change their sex. Those people are obviously imitating the opposite sex, which is wrong in Al-Islam.

That's one possible interpretation. There are others, and there are a number who disagree.

I don't know how that couldn't be in reference to transgenders.

[Mujahidah]

That's one possible interpretation. There are others, and there are a number who disagree.

I don't know how that couldn't be in reference to transgenders.

Because transvestitism and transgender identities are separate? Its something that people - even some pretty conservative people, re: Iran - disagree with you on. I'm not necessarily taking a side, I'm just saying that your interpretation isn't necessarily the correct one.

Aillyria could probably explain better, I can't exactly say I'm the most educated in regards to the issue, but I know enough to know its neither settled nor cut and dry.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I don't know how that couldn't be in reference to transgenders.

Because transvestitism and transgender identities are separate? Its something that people - even some pretty conservative people, re: Iran - disagree with you on. I'm not necessarily taking a side, I'm just saying that your interpretation isn't necessarily the correct one.

Aillyria could probably explain better, I can't exactly say I'm the most educated in regards to the issue, but I know enough to know its neither settled nor cut and dry.

Changing one's sex is textbook "imitating women/men", idk how I'm wrong.
Also, I know you're just trying to make a point, but Iran is not an example to be used.

[Mujahidah]

Also, I know you're just trying to make a point, but Iran is not an example to be used.

Being a Sunni I'd agree. The point is Iran is not the type you'd expect to take some radical liberal interpretation. And yet here we are.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Also, I know you're just trying to make a point, but Iran is not an example to be used.

Being a Sunni I'd agree. The point is Iran is not the type you'd expect to take some radical liberal interpretation. And yet here we are.

Hm, point made.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Israel-Pallistine tension should be resolved via hockey tournament.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Israel-Pallistine tension should be resolved via hockey tournament.

That would be funny if the tension wasn't so deadly.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Israel-Pallistine tension should be resolved via hockey tournament.

That would be funny if the tension wasn't so deadly.

Your right... I'm sorry.

[Mujahidah]

That would be funny if the tension wasn't so deadly.

Your right... I'm sorry.

Don't apologize I laughed, despite taking the issue quite seriously.

Unfortunately if my experience watching the NHL has taught me anything (Go Bruins!), Hockey wouldn't exactly be much different from whats going on in the real world

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Your right... I'm sorry.

Don't apologize I laughed, despite taking the issue quite seriously.

Unfortunately if my experience watching the NHL has taught me anything (Go Bruins!), Hockey wouldn't exactly be much different from whats going on in the real world

Well, good to know I made you smile.

Yeah, worse case scenario is that there would be a riot, but best case scenario is better relations and friendship between the two.

[Proctopeo]

Why not?

Peace is not an option Israel supports.

Two-state solution is hardly a solution.

Palestine doesn't support it either tbf, never have, while Israel used to

[Ypipo]

Why didn't the US eradicate all of the muslims already? It should be done lol

[Aillyria]

Those two ayat don't necessarily have anything to do with transpeople, particularly the latter which is a rather general statement. And the Hadith could easily be viewed as referring to crossdressing.

And also refers to people who want to change their sex. Those people are obviously imitating the opposite sex, which is wrong in Al-Islam.

You have a very narrow view of transexuals. We'd only be "imitating" in the most literal definition of the word. It also wouldn't follow that Allah would allow people with gender dysphoria to be born, which would essentially be setting us up for failure.

[Valgora]

Peace is not an option Israel supports.

Two-state solution is hardly a solution.

Palestine doesn't support it either tbf, never have, while Israel used to

Considering what Israel has done to the Palestinians, I don't blame them for not wanting a two-state solution.

[Farnhamia]

Why didn't the US eradicate all of the muslims already? It should be done lol

*** Warned for trolling *** lol

Read the rules, which are conveniently posted at the top of this forum, and follow them. Your NS experience will be much more enjoyable if you do, not to mention longer.

[Proctopeo]

Palestine doesn't support it either tbf, never have, while Israel used to

Considering what Israel has done to the Palestinians, I don't blame them for not wanting a two-state solution.

When they initially rejected the solution, Israel couldn't have yet done anything to them, because it had yet to, you know, properly exist.

[Larin]

Considering what Israel has done to the Palestinians, I don't blame them for not wanting a two-state solution.

When they initially rejected the solution, Israel couldn't have yet done anything to them, because it had yet to, you know, properly exist.

I think that it’s better Saudi Arabia should annex Israel and Palestine to stop this never ending conflict about the whole region

[Proctopeo]

When they initially rejected the solution, Israel couldn't have yet done anything to them, because it had yet to, you know, properly exist.

I think that it’s better Saudi Arabia should annex Israel and Palestine to stop this never ending conflict about the whole region

Counterpoint: We give the entire Middle East to America.

[Mujahidah]

When they initially rejected the solution, Israel couldn't have yet done anything to them, because it had yet to, you know, properly exist.

I think that it’s better Saudi Arabia should annex Israel and Palestine to stop this never ending conflict about the whole region

What.