Islamic Discussion Thread ٣

[Mujahidah]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/these-misguided-muslim-sharia-squads-are-playing-right-into-the-edls-hands-8461901.html

Article literally admits said "squads" aren't supported and are found repugnant by other muslims in the first line.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/sharia-law-uk-courts-muslim-women-rights-few-compared-islamic-countries-religious-rulings-quran-a8064796.html

Thats an opinion piece. I asked for a news source. Opinion pieces are not a source.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/913414/Amber-Rudd-Sharia-law-court-rejects-calls-legitimise-fears-UK-laws

Third party arbitration is not a "court." There are services that provide biblical arbitration for Christians. Should those go away too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnMtkwt8HsY

Hijab isn't burka. This person isn't educated. I wear a headscarf. Does that make me not an American? 555-COMEONNOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFIPSFIVexM

RussiaToday is Russian State Propaganda, and therefore not a source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLU9SH6qYdQ

And people don't have the right to street preach? I take it you want to lock up all the Christians that do the same? The guy filming here was acting like an ass, and the guy who confronted him was being admittedly unartful.

[Socialist Czechia]

Appeasement seems making some people only bolder, as they know they are untouchable and they don't fear humane laws.

Like how islamophobes attack and kill Muslims?

Most of the terrorist acts in the world, overwhelmingly, in both total numbers of acts and victims, do Muslims against other Muslims (and from them, overwhelmingly Sunni Muslims against other Muslims, typically, Shiites, but also Yezidis, Alawites etc.)

So, no, you can't win this comparison game. There is also literally none Christian terrorist group, although there are still more Christians than Muslims in entire world.
Care to explain that comparison?

[Mujahidah]

Like how islamophobes attack and kill Muslims?

Most of the terrorist acts in the world, overwhelmingly, in both total numbers of acts and victims, do Muslims against other Muslims (and from them, overwhelmingly Sunni Muslims against other Muslims, typically, Shiites, but also Yezidis, Alawites etc.)

So, no, you can't win this comparison game. There is also literally none Christian terrorist group, although there are still more Christians than Muslims in entire world.
Care to explain that comparison?

Actually the majority of terrorist attacks are by separatists militias, not by "Muslim extremists"

[Socialist Czechia]

And people don't have the right to street preach? I take it you want to lock up all the Christians that do the same? The guy filming here was acting like an ass, and the guy who confronted him was being admittedly unartful.

Okay, tell me first which sources are completely legitimate: if I show you article or tv, it's 'opinion' or 'propaganda'.

If I showed you university study, you would say that professor is certainly biased racist

[Socialist Czechia]

Most of the terrorist acts in the world, overwhelmingly, in both total numbers of acts and victims, do Muslims against other Muslims (and from them, overwhelmingly Sunni Muslims against other Muslims, typically, Shiites, but also Yezidis, Alawites etc.)

So, no, you can't win this comparison game. There is also literally none Christian terrorist group, although there are still more Christians than Muslims in entire world.
Care to explain that comparison?

Actually the majority of terrorist attacks are by separatists militias, not by "Muslim extremists"

So, it's just coincidence, if such group is, for example, Salafist, too?

[Mujahidah]

Actually the majority of terrorist attacks are by separatists militias, not by "Muslim extremists"

So, it's just coincidence, if such group is, for example, Salafist, too?

I don't think the IRA, for instance, was Salafist....

[Genivaria]

Smh.
"Free Speech" has bounds. Being disrespectful is stepping over that bound, and is against site rules btw. See how much "muh free speech" gets you then.

Free Speech does not have bounds. This site doesn't have free speech, so it doesn't apply here. Whatever the mods deem offensive is punished.

This raises an interesting question I think.
Does anyone here think that the Danish cartoonist who made cartoons that were offensive to Muslims deserved the death threats and the actual attacks on his life?
Yes or no?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Free Speech does not have bounds. This site doesn't have free speech, so it doesn't apply here. Whatever the mods deem offensive is punished.

This raises an interesting question I think.
Does anyone here think that the Danish cartoonist who made cartoons that were offensive to Muslims deserved the death threats and the actual attacks on his life?
Yes or no?

Yes, he deserved it.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

This raises an interesting question I think.
Does anyone here think that the Danish cartoonist who made cartoons that were offensive to Muslims deserved the death threats and the actual attacks on his life?
Yes or no?

Yes, he deserved it.

Why?

[Genivaria]

This raises an interesting question I think.
Does anyone here think that the Danish cartoonist who made cartoons that were offensive to Muslims deserved the death threats and the actual attacks on his life?
Yes or no?

Yes, he deserved it.

Why?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Yes, he deserved it.

Why?

Because people shouldn't be allowed to criticize Islam. Or communism, or the government or traditionalism for that matter.

*dab*

[Genivaria]

Why?

Because people shouldn't be allowed to criticize Islam. Or communism, or the government or traditionalism for that matter.

*dab*

I feel like you aren't being serious right now.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Because people shouldn't be allowed to criticize Islam. Or communism, or the government or traditionalism for that matter.

*dab*

I feel like you aren't being serious right now.

How so? Haven't you ever met a classical liberal who hates freedom of speech?

[Al-Ismailiyya]

Free Speech does not have bounds. This site doesn't have free speech, so it doesn't apply here. Whatever the mods deem offensive is punished.

This raises an interesting question I think.
Does anyone here think that the Danish cartoonist who made cartoons that were offensive to Muslims deserved the death threats and the actual attacks on his life?
Yes or no?

Of course not. Not even Salman Rushdie deserved the shit that was slung at him. However, I'm not even Muslim anymore so that doesn't matter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Washington Resistance Army]

This raises an interesting question I think.
Does anyone here think that the Danish cartoonist who made cartoons that were offensive to Muslims deserved the death threats and the actual attacks on his life?
Yes or no?

Of course not. Not even Salman Rushdie deserved the shit that was slung at him. However, I'm not even Muslim anymore so that doesn't matter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

When did you quit being a Muslim, if you don't mind me asking?

[Al-Ismailiyya]

Of course not. Not even Salman Rushdie deserved the shit that was slung at him. However, I'm not even Muslim anymore so that doesn't matter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

When did you quit being a Muslim, if you don't mind me asking?

Like late January, I think. I still believe in God and shit. Just not Muslim.

[Negarakita]

Free Speech does not have bounds. This site doesn't have free speech, so it doesn't apply here. Whatever the mods deem offensive is punished.

This raises an interesting question I think.
Does anyone here think that the Danish cartoonist who made cartoons that were offensive to Muslims deserved the death threats and the actual attacks on his life?
Yes or no?

Of course not. But purposely being a dick to a disadvantaged minority by holding a competition on who can mock their prophet best and painting them as all terrorists etc is especially shitty and they would have known there would be an outcry. It's just being a dick then complaining when the person who already has other issues like poverty gets more annoyed than you thought. Not justified, but not entirely unexoected.

[Aillyria]

This raises an interesting question I think.
Does anyone here think that the Danish cartoonist who made cartoons that were offensive to Muslims deserved the death threats and the actual attacks on his life?
Yes or no?

Yes, he deserved it.

No, he didn't. People can protest, that is their right, but physically attacking him for that (even though it's offensive) is ridiculous. If we have no right to be offensive, nor do we have a right to speak the truth either.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

It doesn't matter if you consider it funny or not - it's my right to make jokes. 'Feeling insulted' is not Human Right. Free speech, however, including jokes, is.

Don't take yourselves so much seriously, people.

Smh.
"Free Speech" has bounds. Being disrespectful is stepping over that bound, and is against site rules btw. See how much "muh free speech" gets you then.

Would you have the state prohibit disrespect?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Yes, he deserved it.

No, he didn't. People can protest, that is their right, but physically attacking him for that (even though it's offensive) is ridiculous. If we have no right to be offensive, nor do we have a right to speak the truth either.

Nah, m8. You have no rights. The government's power should be absolute.

*dab*

[Kubumba Tribe]

Like how islamophobes attack and kill Muslims?

Most of the terrorist acts in the world, overwhelmingly, in both total numbers of acts and victims, do Muslims against other Muslims (and from them, overwhelmingly Sunni Muslims against other Muslims, typically, Shiites, but also Yezidis, Alawites etc.)

I was specifically about islamophobic attacks.

There is also literally none Christian terrorist group, although there are still more Christians than Muslims in entire world.
Care to explain that comparison?

Muslims being effed over by oppressors and bad leaders. Leads to radicalization

[Genivaria]

No, he didn't. People can protest, that is their right, but physically attacking him for that (even though it's offensive) is ridiculous. If we have no right to be offensive, nor do we have a right to speak the truth either.

Nah, m8. You have no rights. The government's power should be absolute.

*dab*

What is 'dab'?

[Genivaria]

Smh.
"Free Speech" has bounds. Being disrespectful is stepping over that bound, and is against site rules btw. See how much "muh free speech" gets you then.

Would you have the state prohibit disrespect?

Then you'd be outlawing ANY speech, because no matter what you say someone, somewhere will get pissed and act offended over it.

[The Parkus Empire]

Actually the majority of terrorist attacks are by separatists militias, not by "Muslim extremists"

So, it's just coincidence, if such group is, for example, Salafist, too?

Middle Eastern politics are just bloody.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and ... a_massacre

Christianity only became a tame religion with the Peace of Westphalia. A similar arrangement in the Middle East would probably fix things.

[Aillyria]

Nah, m8. You have no rights. The government's power should be absolute.

*dab*

What is 'dab'?

The dab is a hiphop dance pose. Xeno is being facetious and sarcastic.