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What Denomination are You?

Sunni
132
28%
Sunni (Sufi)
31
7%
Sunni (Salafi)
26
6%
Ithna'ashari/Twelver Shi'a
30
6%
Other Shi'a
15
3%
Ibadi
13
3%
Ahmadiyya
11
2%
Qur'anist
17
4%
Nondenominational
50
11%
Other
145
31%
 
Total votes : 470

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Islamic Government
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Postby Islamic Government » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:31 am

Itoshiki wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:
I'm absolutely serious. I already said I don't support freedom, democracy or human rights.

Oh, I know that you could possibly be serious. All I'm saying is that you're not worth being taken seriously, that is, for us, not that you're not being serious. What common ground can be achieved from discussing with a person who regards wanton brutality as divine ordinance?

You don't support those, you apparently don't support human decency like "don't rape a person", either. There is no agreeable axiom that can be held here.


"Brutality"? I'm not the one who said "Wahhabis"deserve to get killed and raped here!
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:32 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:
You are worse than the worst crusader.

It's no less than what they deserve.

They remind me that Hitler may have had a point. The concept of a Holocaust isn't a Bad Idea. It was just aimed at the wrong people. Maybe Arab governments should round up the Wahhabis and put them in concentration camps. Beat them, strangle them, torture them, work them to death.

Stuff them all in gas chamber and furnaces. Listen to them cry like the little bitches they are before they choke on their liquidized lungs and their skin peels and cracks.

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Islamic Government wrote:You hate Muslims who don't agree with you more than you hate Christians and Jews. Hating other Muslims more than Kuffar is a trait of the Khawarij. You are a true Khariji.

And by the way, after we will conquer the Middle East, the ones who will die like rats in gas chambers will be your Sufi brothers, along with their Jewish allies.

I hate Muslims that pervert the Shariah because they're the biggest insult that can be made to the Path of Islam. You calling others Khawarij is ludicrous. You hold literally every characteristic they did.

You might say empty threats like that. But your precious mohareb are the ones that are dying like rats now. And they'll continue to do so. Until every last one of them is dead.

It's a pity the Ottomans weren't more thorough with you lot. Now Muslim Countries have to finish what they started.

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Islamic Government wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:It's no less than what they deserve.

They remind me that Hitler may have had a point. The concept of a Holocaust isn't a Bad Idea. It was just aimed at the wrong people. Maybe Arab governments should round up the Wahhabis and put them in concentration camps. Beat them, strangle them, torture them, work them to death.


You hate Muslims who don't agree with you more than you hate Christians and Jews. Hating other Muslims more than Kuffar is a trait of the Khawarij. You are a true Khariji.

And by the way, after we will conquer the Middle East, the ones who will die like rats in gas chambers will be your Sufi brothers, along with their Jewish allies.

Islamic Government wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:
You might say empty threats like that. But your precious pigfucker mohareb are the ones that are dying like rats now. And you'll continue to do so. Until every last one of you is dead.


They are Martyrs and now they are rejoicing with the Prophets in Jannah unders the delightful sight of Allah.

Your Sufi and Nationalist murtadeen dogs who have been killed like rats by the Mujahideen of the Khilafah are now burning in hell.

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Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?


Yes, I approve.

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Postby Alsheb » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:09 am

Well, dang.
A lot can happen in this thread in a matter of hours.

Must say my respect for Jochizyd only increased though.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:12 am

Alsheb wrote:Well, dang.
A lot can happen in this thread in a matter of hours.

Must say my respect for Jochizyd only increased though.

Saying that someone who has just received a two-week ban for trolling has gained increased respect from you is not a great idea.
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Postby Greater Hudian Republic » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:35 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Alsheb wrote:Well, dang.
A lot can happen in this thread in a matter of hours.

Must say my respect for Jochizyd only increased though.

Saying that someone who has just received a two-week ban for trolling has gained increased respect from you is not a great idea.

you have a dope flag tbh
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Postby Alsheb » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:37 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Alsheb wrote:Well, dang.
A lot can happen in this thread in a matter of hours.

Must say my respect for Jochizyd only increased though.

Saying that someone who has just received a two-week ban for trolling has gained increased respect from you is not a great idea.


It's more his consistency in opposing Wahhabism and his ceaseless campaign against the Wahhabis that have been ravaging this thread ever since it started that I find admirable. But anyway, noted.
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Postby Gondolaulus » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:50 am

Alsheb wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Saying that someone who has just received a two-week ban for trolling has gained increased respect from you is not a great idea.


It's more his consistency in opposing Wahhabism and his ceaseless campaign against the Wahhabis that have been ravaging this thread ever since it started that I find admirable. But anyway, noted.

I have to second this.
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Postby Mahdistan » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:17 pm

Why do I always miss the good fights?

Jochizyd Republic wrote:If I am permabanned, Mahdistan should probably be given a shot at being OP again.

I appreciate the trust, but don't get yourself permabanned. Please?

Itoshiki wrote:IDT used to be so much better back then. It was practically one of the best, most civil threads in NSG.

...Have you forgotten the first thread?

The reason I didn't take to the forums as soon as I joined NS was because of that very thread. Sure, there were good points, where things were calm, and people were generally friendly. But those were not the majority of times.

Anyway, anyone with questions, or was otherwise un-involved in the above conflict, whom I missed?
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Postby Alsheb » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:08 pm

With the recent decision to commute the sentences both Chelsea Manning and Oscar Lopez Rivera, what do you guys think of the chances that our brother in Islam Mumia Abu-Jamal might finally be pardoned?
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Postby Mahdistan » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:51 pm

Alsheb wrote:With the recent decision to commute the sentences both Chelsea Manning and Oscar Lopez Rivera, what do you guys think of the chances that our brother in Islam Mumia Abu-Jamal might finally be pardoned?

Unfortunately, I don't have high hopes. I think Obama just did it because of the high demand; that's why he waited until his very last days to do it.

I have my doubts Trump will do much prisoner commuting during his time in office.
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Postby Mahdistan » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:34 pm

I'm finally committing to learning functional Arabic, in hopes that I'll be able to travel to Arab countries without a guide. I am hoping to be able to complete Hajj within the next five years as well.

Does anyone else plan on partaking on Hajj in the foreseeable future/completed the Hajj already?
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Postby Arridian Islands » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:44 pm

Was that guy wth the ISIS flag an actual terrorist? Should NS contact police about him rather than ban him?
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Postby Mahdistan » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:47 pm

Arridian Islands wrote:Was that guy wth the ISIS flag an actual terrorist? Should NS contact police about him rather than ban him?

The NS mods generally don't involve themselves in such matters; public displays of support for terrorist groups isn't illegal in a lot of countries.
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Postby Arridian Islands » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:51 pm

Mahdistan wrote:
Arridian Islands wrote:Was that guy wth the ISIS flag an actual terrorist? Should NS contact police about him rather than ban him?

The NS mods generally don't involve themselves in such matters; public displays of support for terrorist groups isn't illegal in a lot of countries.

It is in the USA, most of Europe I think, and Canada, for sure. A LOT of internet users come from there. That guy seemed rather... insane.
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Postby Arridian Islands » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:59 pm

Alsheb wrote:With the recent decision to commute the sentences both Chelsea Manning and Oscar Lopez Rivera, what do you guys think of the chances that our brother in Islam Mumia Abu-Jamal might finally be pardoned?

Didn't he murder someone?
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Postby Free Rhenish States II » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:48 pm

Arridian Islands wrote:Was that guy wth the ISIS flag an actual terrorist? Should NS contact police about him rather than ban him?

This flag existed long before ISIS was created. It is the flag of all Muslims, apart from Alsheb and the Ahmadiyya, maybe, but they are a small minority.

I don't care about the opinions of people I don't even think about. Est-ce que tu comprends? Ça m'est égal.
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Postby Arridian Islands » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:50 pm

Free Rhenish States II wrote:
Arridian Islands wrote:Was that guy wth the ISIS flag an actual terrorist? Should NS contact police about him rather than ban him?

This flag existed long before ISIS was created. It is the flag of all Muslims, apart from Alsheb and the Ahmadiyya, maybe, but they are a small minority.

I don't think anyone uses that flag currently who aren't terrorists or terrorist supporters.
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Postby Free Rhenish States II » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:54 pm

Arridian Islands wrote:
Free Rhenish States II wrote:This flag existed long before ISIS was created. It is the flag of all Muslims, apart from Alsheb and the Ahmadiyya, maybe, but they are a small minority.

I don't think anyone uses that flag currently who aren't terrorists or terrorist supporters.

No Muslim cares, buddy, unless you are Alsheb. This is the flag of the Prophet (saw), and as such it cannot be ascribed to ISIS, or any other group. Nobody's going to denounce anyone for using it, even if ISIS uses it.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:59 pm

Free Rhenish States II wrote:
Arridian Islands wrote:I don't think anyone uses that flag currently who aren't terrorists or terrorist supporters.

No Muslim cares, buddy, unless you are Alsheb. This is the flag of the Prophet (saw), and as such it cannot be ascribed to ISIS, or any other group. Nobody's going to denounce anyone for using it, even if ISIS uses it.


I wish that was how it works, but it isn't. Just like the swastika, symbol of luck and prosperity and a holy symbol in almost every religion on the planet (including Islam and Judaism), will forever be seen as a nazi symbol in the west, so will the "ISISflag".

Is that how it should be ? No. But that is how it works in real life.
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Postby Free Rhenish States II » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:04 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Free Rhenish States II wrote:No Muslim cares, buddy, unless you are Alsheb. This is the flag of the Prophet (saw), and as such it cannot be ascribed to ISIS, or any other group. Nobody's going to denounce anyone for using it, even if ISIS uses it.


I wish that was how it works, but it isn't. Just like the swastika, symbol of luck and prosperity and a holy symbol in almost every religion on the planet (including Islam and Judaism), will forever be seen as a nazi symbol in the west, so will the "ISISflag".

Is that how it should be ? No. But that is how it works in real life.

That's your wishful thinking. Everytime you bullshit here everyone already knows you're not going to back up your words anyhow. Don't confuse your personal opinion with "how the real life is", sure, you may think what you want, but we don't care a straw. We always used it, and we will be, and the opinion of some "The Alma Matter" or his likes ain't gonna change nothing.
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Postby Itoshiki » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:16 pm

Free Rhenish States II wrote:
Arridian Islands wrote:Was that guy wth the ISIS flag an actual terrorist? Should NS contact police about him rather than ban him?

This flag existed long before ISIS was created. It is the flag of all Muslims, apart from Alsheb and the Ahmadiyya, maybe, but they are a small minority.

He made it very clear that he is an avid supporter of the Islamic State.
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Itoshiki wrote:You're not really saying much about Yazidi and Christian girls raped by the mujahids, either. I ask you again: do you approve of IS' practice of sex slavery or not?

Yes, I approve.

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Postby Alsheb » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:40 pm

Free Rhenish States II wrote:
Arridian Islands wrote:Was that guy wth the ISIS flag an actual terrorist? Should NS contact police about him rather than ban him?

This flag existed long before ISIS was created. It is the flag of all Muslims, apart from Alsheb and the Ahmadiyya, maybe, but they are a small minority.


He openly supports Daesh, it has nothing to do with whatever flag he decides to use for it. Also, Muhammad most likely flew a black banner. The inclusion of the Shahadah in white on the flag was a 18th-century Pashtun invention. So even your claim that it is the "flag of Islam" is false.
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Postby Alsheb » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:42 pm

Arridian Islands wrote:
Alsheb wrote:With the recent decision to commute the sentences both Chelsea Manning and Oscar Lopez Rivera, what do you guys think of the chances that our brother in Islam Mumia Abu-Jamal might finally be pardoned?

Didn't he murder someone?


Very unlikely. His guilt is widely disputed, and he was quite obviously framed for the murder since he was a rising star in the Black Panther movement. And even if he was guilty, since when is murder punished with 40 years incarceration anyway?
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Postby Free Rhenish States II » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:58 pm

Itoshiki wrote:
Free Rhenish States II wrote:This flag existed long before ISIS was created. It is the flag of all Muslims, apart from Alsheb and the Ahmadiyya, maybe, but they are a small minority.

He made it very clear that he is an avid supporter of the Islamic State.

Yeah, I don't blanch it over.

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Postby Mahdistan » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:58 pm

Free Rhenish States II wrote:
Arridian Islands wrote:Was that guy wth the ISIS flag an actual terrorist? Should NS contact police about him rather than ban him?

This flag existed long before ISIS was created. It is the flag of all Muslims, apart from Alsheb and the Ahmadiyya, maybe, but they are a small minority.

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