Are all the religions in the West treated equally?

[Jumalariik]

On the Jediism not a religion thread there has been conversation on the status of different religion in the West. It is kind of at thread-jack levels, so here is a thread for it.

The question is, are all religions treated equally in the West? Do some get put above others? Are some sacred cows?

Personally I think that Christianity, at least in the US, is less respected than Judaism or Islam. Plenty of examples exist of the media treating Islam as great, while presidential candidates and newspapers demand that Christians change their beliefs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-con ... 42420.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-mevor ... f=religion
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/08/08/hill ... -abortion/
http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... ses-koran/

Note: people will likely claim this argument to be putting oneself on a cross or a persecution complex. The simple argument I am making is that Christianity is indeed put at less of a pedestal and given less protection in the media and in popular culture than other religions are. Some may also say that it's not an important question, to which I say that if it's not, they don't need to say so.

[Conserative Morality]

Note: people will likely claim this argument to be putting oneself on a cross or a persecution complex.

Probably because it is.

[Southerly Gentleman]

Since Christianity and its ethics are woven inseparably into the Western fabric, of course the masochistic left are going to specially target it. Islam, as well as Judaism to some extent, represent alien modes of life and ethic, so they are raised up on the platform of inclusiveness.

[Neutraligon]

Yes of course the people who are in the majority, and thus effect the majority of people when it comes to the law, regardless of if those people are Christian, are the ones who are the ones being persecuted and being treated unequally. /s

Get back to me when you are actually being persecuted and discriminated against here in the west.

[Jumalariik]

Note: people will likely claim this argument to be putting oneself on a cross or a persecution complex.

Probably because it is.

How so? Is comparing the status of groups of people in a society now a persecution complex?

[Conserative Morality]

How so? Is comparing the status of groups of people in a society now a persecution complex?

Only when drawing ridiculous conclusions about how persecuted one is. A persecution complex isn't an action. It's an attitude.

[Jumalariik]

How so? Is comparing the status of groups of people in a society now a persecution complex?

Only when drawing ridiculous conclusions about how persecuted one is. A persecution complex isn't an action. It's an attitude.

I'll look for where I said I was persecuted:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/d5/d1/1d/d5d11db502d0d15b098fd40568910479.jpg

Me after looking for where I said that.

[New Cashistan]

Christianity is the biggest religion in the West. It's always easier to make fun of the big guy. But fun is all it is, there's (basically) no anti-Christian hate crimes in the US.

On the other hand, Islam is really controversial and polarizing. There are anti-Islamic hate crimes, although thankfully not to an extreme extent. If a media entity or person wants to be seen as progressive and accepting of all cultures, all they have to do is endorse Islam.

Making fun of Christians just means you're appealing to a huge audience, because everyone knows a Christian. Making fun of Muslims is a touchy subject, because it could be seen as appealing to anti-Islamic groups, or encouraging hate crimes. You can see why comedians, for example, would avoid the subject.

Why does Christianity need to be protected? From what or whom?

[Jumalariik]

Christianity is the biggest religion in the West. It's always easier to make fun of the big guy. But fun is all it is, there's (basically) no anti-Christian hate crimes in the US.

On the other hand, Islam is really controversial and polarizing. There are anti-Islamic hate crimes, although thankfully not to an extreme extent. If a media entity or person wants to be seen as progressive and accepting of all cultures, all they have to do is endorse Islam.

Making fun of Christians just means you're appealing to a huge audience, because everyone knows a Christian. Making fun of Muslims is a touchy subject, because it could be seen as appealing to anti-Islamic groups, or encouraging hate crimes. You can see why comedians, for example, would avoid the subject.

Why does Christianity need to be protected? From what or whom?

"No anti-Christian hate crimes."
http://ktla.com/2016/12/19/people-crush ... -reported/

[Conserative Morality]

I'll look for where I said I was persecuted:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/d5/d1/1d/d5d11db502d0d15b098fd40568910479.jpg

Me after looking for where I said that.

Personally I think that Christianity, at least in the US, is less respected than Judaism or Islam. Plenty of examples exist of the media treating Islam as great, while presidential candidates and newspapers demand that Christians change their beliefs.

Must be blind m80.

Christianity is the biggest religion in the West. It's always easier to make fun of the big guy. But fun is all it is, there's (basically) no anti-Christian hate crimes in the US.

On the other hand, Islam is really controversial and polarizing. There are anti-Islamic hate crimes, although thankfully not to an extreme extent. If a media entity or person wants to be seen as progressive and accepting of all cultures, all they have to do is endorse Islam.

Making fun of Christians just means you're appealing to a huge audience, because everyone knows a Christian. Making fun of Muslims is a touchy subject, because it could be seen as appealing to anti-Islamic groups, or encouraging hate crimes. You can see why comedians, for example, would avoid the subject.

Why does Christianity need to be protected? From what or whom?

The mean people.

[New Cashistan]

Christianity is the biggest religion in the West. It's always easier to make fun of the big guy. But fun is all it is, there's (basically) no anti-Christian hate crimes in the US.

On the other hand, Islam is really controversial and polarizing. There are anti-Islamic hate crimes, although thankfully not to an extreme extent. If a media entity or person wants to be seen as progressive and accepting of all cultures, all they have to do is endorse Islam.

Making fun of Christians just means you're appealing to a huge audience, because everyone knows a Christian. Making fun of Muslims is a touchy subject, because it could be seen as appealing to anti-Islamic groups, or encouraging hate crimes. You can see why comedians, for example, would avoid the subject.

Why does Christianity need to be protected? From what or whom?

"No anti-Christian hate crimes."
http://ktla.com/2016/12/19/people-crush ... -reported/

There's a reason I said basically. Read the rest of the argument.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hate-crime-ris ... d=43529882

[Jumalariik]

"No anti-Christian hate crimes."
http://ktla.com/2016/12/19/people-crush ... -reported/

There's a reason I said basically. Read the rest of the argument.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hate-crime-ris ... d=43529882

Islam is responsible for the majority of the US' deaths by terrorism. I don't see why the president should treat it as equal to Christianity in terms of peacefulness. Hate Crimes are one species of crime among many.

[Jumalariik]

I'll look for where I said I was persecuted:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/d5/d1/1d/d5d11db502d0d15b098fd40568910479.jpg

Me after looking for where I said that.

Personally I think that Christianity, at least in the US, is less respected than Judaism or Islam. Plenty of examples exist of the media treating Islam as great, while presidential candidates and newspapers demand that Christians change their beliefs.

Must be blind m80.

Christianity is the biggest religion in the West. It's always easier to make fun of the big guy. But fun is all it is, there's (basically) no anti-Christian hate crimes in the US.

On the other hand, Islam is really controversial and polarizing. There are anti-Islamic hate crimes, although thankfully not to an extreme extent. If a media entity or person wants to be seen as progressive and accepting of all cultures, all they have to do is endorse Islam.

Making fun of Christians just means you're appealing to a huge audience, because everyone knows a Christian. Making fun of Muslims is a touchy subject, because it could be seen as appealing to anti-Islamic groups, or encouraging hate crimes. You can see why comedians, for example, would avoid the subject.

Why does Christianity need to be protected? From what or whom?

The mean people.

NEWS UPDATE: the word persecution now refers to different treatment by people.

[Jute]

There's a reason I said basically. Read the rest of the argument.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hate-crime-ris ... d=43529882

Islam is responsible for the majority of the US' deaths by terrorism. I don't see why the president should treat it as equal to Christianity in terms of peacefulness. Hate Crimes are one species of crime among many.

Have you seen this article, admittedly from a year and half ago?

"Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11"

[Jumalariik]

Islam is responsible for the majority of the US' deaths by terrorism. I don't see why the president should treat it as equal to Christianity in terms of peacefulness. Hate Crimes are one species of crime among many.

Have you seen this article, admittedly from a year and half ago?

"Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11"

That was before San Bernandino and Pulse.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html

[Internationalist Bastard]

Christians don''t need people defending them like Islam

[Washington Resistance Army]

No they aren't.

[Major-Tom]

Depends on where you are in the West. A community in Alabama is going to slam Islam and Atheism, whereas a community on the Pacific Coast may slam Christianity. Really depends.

Ultimately, I think sometimes certain religions are overly demonized, whereas sometimes, they're overly glorified. Overall, what matters to me is that all religions are treated equally by law.

[Aelex]

Christians don''t need people defending them like Islam

Because Muslims need people to defend them?
Why so much condescension for them? Do you think they're children who're unable to speak for themselves?

[New Cashistan]

There's a reason I said basically. Read the rest of the argument.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hate-crime-ris ... d=43529882

Islam is responsible for the majority of the US' deaths by terrorism. I don't see why the president should treat it as equal to Christianity in terms of peacefulness. Hate Crimes are one species of crime among many.

And now you reveal your true generalizing form. Islam isn't a person, so it can't be responsible for anything. Only individuals can be responsible for things. A religion can't be more or less peaceful than any other. Religions are just strong cultural ties, and should not be treated as anything more than that.

If someone wants to mock Islam, let me be the first to let them do that. If I'm allowed to make fun of Christians, so is the president.

[Trotskylvania]

Christianity is the biggest religion in the West. It's always easier to make fun of the big guy. But fun is all it is, there's (basically) no anti-Christian hate crimes in the US.

On the other hand, Islam is really controversial and polarizing. There are anti-Islamic hate crimes, although thankfully not to an extreme extent. If a media entity or person wants to be seen as progressive and accepting of all cultures, all they have to do is endorse Islam.

Making fun of Christians just means you're appealing to a huge audience, because everyone knows a Christian. Making fun of Muslims is a touchy subject, because it could be seen as appealing to anti-Islamic groups, or encouraging hate crimes. You can see why comedians, for example, would avoid the subject.

Why does Christianity need to be protected? From what or whom?

"No anti-Christian hate crimes."
http://ktla.com/2016/12/19/people-crush ... -reported/

We don't even know who did it or what their motive was. For all we know, it was the Polish driver who was assigned to the truck.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Christians don''t need people defending them like Islam

Because Muslims need people to defend them?
Why so much condescension for them? Do you think they're children who're unable to speak for themselves?

No because they are constantly being called terrorists and insulted. It's not they can't defend themselves, it's because when you feelthe world is against you it pays to know people are with you

[Jumalariik]

Because Muslims need people to defend them?
Why so much condescension for them? Do you think they're children who're unable to speak for themselves?

No because they are constantly being called terrorists and insulted. It's not they can't defend themselves, it's because when you feelthe world is against you it pays to know people are with you

I don't think that Islam is over-demonized at all.

[Neutraligon]

No because they are constantly being called terrorists and insulted. It's not they can't defend themselves, it's because when you feelthe world is against you it pays to know people are with you

I don't think that Islam is over-demonized at all.

While I feel Christianity is under-criticized.

[Internationalist Bastard]

No because they are constantly being called terrorists and insulted. It's not they can't defend themselves, it's because when you feelthe world is against you it pays to know people are with you

I don't think that Islam is over-demonized at all.

Really? So all those Muslims aren't being unfairly accused as they try to live their lives.