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[Europe] Lorry rams into Berlin market

Postby Minoa » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:38 pm

Sources: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867 and http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-german ... KKBN148289

I am personally concerned about the safety of all those affected given that the incident is very similar to what happened in Nice, and concerned about the stability given this occurred only hours after the fatal shooting of the Russian ambassador in Ankara. As of now it is too early to speculate on who did it and why, and I am awaiting more information from reliable sources.

If you are in Germany, are you okay? What are your thoughts on the developing story?
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:39 pm

Minoa wrote:Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867

I am personally concerned about the safety of all those affected given that the incident is very similar to what happened in Nice, and concerned about the stability given this occurred only hours after the fatal shooting of the Russian ambassador in Ankara.

If you are in Germany, are you okay? What are your thoughts on the developing story?

I may be wrong, but I don't think the assassination and this incident are connected.

Anyway, I hope no died. :(
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:50 pm

I really hope this isn't another Nice...
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Postby Union of Despotistan » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:57 pm

I also hope its not the Religion of pieces again.
Might be an accident.

If not, it will help AfD, which is also nice.
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Postby Frank Zipper » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:59 pm

One person dead, 10 injured according to a news report I just saw.
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Postby Minoa » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:02 pm

The source in the OP (BBC) has been updated to say:

One person has died and several have been injured as a lorry ploughed into a Christmas market in central Berlin, police say.

Police now say they suspect it was a deliberate attack.

The timing is alarming, because of the fallout from the Syrian Civil War as well as the ongoing ethnic tensions as a result of the mass emigration from the conflict zones.
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Postby New Scario » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:04 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I really hope this isn't another Nice...

Fire Brigade reports that it seems to be deliberate.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:04 pm

Someone on CNN just said multiple dead, 50 injured.
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:06 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Someone on CNN just said multiple dead, 50 injured.

Certainly sounds like a terrorist attack.
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Postby Minoa » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:08 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Someone on CNN just said multiple dead, 50 injured.

ARD Tagesschau is reporting that: http://www.tagesschau.de/eilmeldung/eil ... -2203.html – still to early to speculate on the identity of the suspect due to lack of reliable information on that matter.
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Postby New Scario » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:11 pm

Minoa wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Someone on CNN just said multiple dead, 50 injured.

ARD Tagesschau is reporting that: http://www.tagesschau.de/eilmeldung/eil ... -2203.html – still to early to speculate on the identity of the suspect due to lack of reliable information on that matter.

This is true. But immediate thought goes to the Nice attack, and I won't be surprised if the perpetraitor is who I think it is.

Then again, its all still in the air, and we should be thinking about the victims right now.
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Postby Vallermoore » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:11 pm

It is almost certain to be a Muslim behind this.

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Postby Skyviolia » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:14 pm

Vallermoore wrote:It is almost certain to be a Muslim behind this.


Pretty sure a right winger is behind it when an abortion clinic is shot up.
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Postby Skyviolia » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:15 pm

Union of Despotistan wrote:I also hope its not the Religion of pieces again.
Might be an accident.

If not, it will help AfD, which is also nice.

Well, its good that people died because it furthers my party narrative.


Disgusting.
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Postby Traxa » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:15 pm

According to a witness tweet there is no road nearby so sounds like it was done on purpose. Eventually ppl will learn.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:16 pm

At least 9 dead according to Berlin Police

Edit: Driver is apparently not in custody and is on the run.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:22 pm

Skyviolia wrote:
Vallermoore wrote:It is almost certain to be a Muslim behind this.


Pretty sure a right winger is behind it when an abortion clinic is shot up.


For fucks sake people.

For one, attacks in Europe perpetrated by Muslims kill far more than Right wing loonies. And two...that doesn't even fucking matter right now, because for one, we don't know who did it, and two, details are just coming in.

Politicize it later, whatever. Yeah, it was probably a Muslim, and yeah, we probably need to be better at counterterrorism efforts and integrating Muslims into Europe. Because the status quo is a complete failure.

Until we know the perp tho, lets be calm.

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Postby Gawdzendia » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:24 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Skyviolia wrote:
Pretty sure a right winger is behind it when an abortion clinic is shot up.


For fucks sake people.

For one, attacks in Europe perpetrated by Muslims kill far more than Right wing loonies. And two...that doesn't even fucking matter right now, because for one, we don't know who did it, and two, details are just coming in.

Politicize it later, whatever. Yeah, it was probably a Muslim, and yeah, we probably need to be better at counterterrorism efforts and integrating Muslims into Europe. Because the status quo is a complete failure.

Until we know the perp tho, lets be calm.

I agree with the 'wait till the whole picture is in', but asking NSG to be calm? What sort of bizarro-forum do you frequent? :p
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Postby St Salvador » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:25 pm

You know as much as these guys love to use the "Religion of Peace" meme. Iv'e yet to actually see a politician or liberal use that term. maybe it's because I live in the United States I don't know.
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Postby Leuterje » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:27 pm

9 confirmed dead according to latest news.

What a horrible event. I hope the community recovers well.
Like how many say, I have no doubt this could have turned into a repeat of Nice.
Thank God this didn't end in even more deaths.

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Postby Skyviolia » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:27 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Skyviolia wrote:
Pretty sure a right winger is behind it when an abortion clinic is shot up.


For fucks sake people.

For one, attacks in Europe perpetrated by Muslims kill far more than Right wing loonies. And two...that doesn't even fucking matter right now, because for one, we don't know who did it, and two, details are just coming in.

Politicize it later, whatever. Yeah, it was probably a Muslim, and yeah, we probably need to be better at counterterrorism efforts and integrating Muslims into Europe. Because the status quo is a complete failure.

Until we know the perp tho, lets be calm.

A quick fact check, Muslims commit less terror attacks than right wingers (not per capita) you just don't hear about it because we associate terrorism with certain people.
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Postby Minoa » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:At least 9 dead according to Berlin Police

Edit: Driver is apparently not in custody and is on the run.

The source in the OP (BBC) has been updated to reflect on both, meaning that we may not know of the suspect’s motive immediately. Due to the sensitive nature of the events, I am only relaying and commenting on what we know according to reliable sources, although it is obvious that it evokes bad memories of the Nice attack.
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Postby Traxa » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:29 pm

St Salvador wrote:You know as much as these guys love to use the "Religion of Peace" meme. Iv'e yet to actually see a politician or liberal use that term. maybe it's because I live in the United States I don't know.


Bill maher makes an excellent point, for some unknown reason you cant criticize islam and be liberal. The whole clip with him and how ben affleck reacts to what he says is a good watch.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:30 pm

Vallermoore wrote:It is almost certain to be a Muslim behind this.


First fingerpointing in fact goes to a man of Polish descent - who usually are not muslim.
Still, the "muslim apology brigade" is already in full "excusemode" - referencing horrors in the middleeast and pointing out that nobody cares about THOSE.

So perhaps it does not even matter if a muslim did it - the end result is the same.
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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:33 pm

Traxa wrote:
St Salvador wrote:You know as much as these guys love to use the "Religion of Peace" meme. Iv'e yet to actually see a politician or liberal use that term. maybe it's because I live in the United States I don't know.


Bill maher makes an excellent point, for some unknown reason you cant criticize islam and be liberal. The whole clip with him and how ben affleck reacts to what he says is a good watch.


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Gosh that clip.
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