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Postby Kalasparata » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:23 pm

Martaz wrote:A socialist country goes bankrupt

what a shock!

Since when is Greece socialist?

Also, Greece should do what?! Do you know how much history and hounor Greece has, even with the tiny rock islands? Greece selling islannds is like selling their history....is selling their history.

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Postby Maurepas » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:25 pm

I think Turkey's lookin to buy. Ottoman Empire 2.0? :p

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Postby Natapoc » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:27 pm

Maurepas wrote:I think Turkey's lookin to buy. Ottoman Empire 2.0? :p


The anarchists in greece will burn everything the buyers have then light the ashes of what the buyers bought on fire for good measure ;)
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Postby Braaainsss » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:30 pm

Kalasparata wrote:
Martaz wrote:A socialist country goes bankrupt

what a shock!

Since when is Greece socialist?


Some people will seize on anything as a vindication of their worldview. This is hardly all Papandreou's fault, anyway.

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Postby The Death Gates » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:31 pm

Maurepas wrote:I think Turkey's lookin to buy. Ottoman Empire 2.0? :p


Turkey is as bad as Greece in economics. Believe me, we can't afford it.

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Postby Greater Weedania » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:31 pm

Natapoc wrote:Debt is slavery but governments go into debt without the permission or understanding of their people. The governments thereby pass this slavery onto their people. Germany is making it clear that they expect greece to submit to the norms of obedience to the master.

Since they only exist because of the status quo, it's only natural for them to want to preserve it.
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Postby KenKenpachi » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:32 pm

Karsol wrote:Woah..and the McCarthy-ers didn't think he was a communist spy? Wierd.

Who didn't they think was a communist spy? And that originates with J Edgar Hoover, more than McCarthy, was only a Senator from Wisconsin , Hoover, Director of the FBI. I would hazard a Guess at who made more people vanish.
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Postby Karsol » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:34 pm

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Karsol wrote:Woah..and the McCarthy-ers didn't think he was a communist spy? Wierd.

Who didn't they think was a communist spy? And that originates with J Edgar Hoover, more than McCarthy, was only a Senator from Wisconsin , Hoover, Director of the FBI. I would hazard a Guess at who made more people vanish.

Nixon, because he did several things that would make the current generations yell "HE'S A COMMUNAZI!!!"
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Postby Natapoc » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:35 pm

Karsol wrote:
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Karsol wrote:You are Billions in Debt after Ronald Reagan and his 'capitalist' policies. :roll:


Not even fucking close to bankrupt, though. Nixon was truer capitalist (he also improved health care, supported Affirmative Action, and tired to increase welfare), and he cut the debt.

Woah..and the McCarthy-ers didn't think he was a communist spy? Wierd.


America and most of the world has moved very far to the right since nixon. So far that members of the republican party then would likley be welcome in the American green party now and considered overly extreme for the democrats.
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Postby Kalasparata » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:36 pm

Braaainsss wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:
Martaz wrote:A socialist country goes bankrupt

what a shock!

Since when is Greece socialist?


Some people will seize on anything as a vindication of their worldview. This is hardly all Papandreou's fault, anyway.

It wasn't karalmaliis' fault either. Greeks are loosing their jobs to cheaper labour Albainions! Even to this day! How is that socialist? And also no doll was given out!

Who's fault is it?
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:37 pm

Kalasparata wrote:
Braaainsss wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:
Martaz wrote:A socialist country goes bankrupt

what a shock!

Since when is Greece socialist?


Some people will seize on anything as a vindication of their worldview. This is hardly all Papandreou's fault, anyway.

It wasn't karalmaliis' fault either. Greeks are loosing their jobs to cheaper labour Albainions! Even to this day! How is that socialist? And also no doll was given out!

Who's fault is it?


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Postby Benzei » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:45 pm

Greater Weedania wrote:Seems like quite a good idea. Does anybody think they'll actually do it?

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Postby Kalasparata » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:50 pm

Maurepas wrote:I think Turkey's lookin to buy. Ottoman Empire 2.0? :p

Who sayed anythng about Turkey?
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:55 pm

Kalasparata wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I think Turkey's lookin to buy. Ottoman Empire 2.0? :p

Who sayed anythng about Turkey?

Me, for teh lulz, I know they dispute the ownership of several of the Islands...

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Postby Greater Weedania » Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:29 pm

Benzei wrote:
Greater Weedania wrote:Seems like quite a good idea. Does anybody think they'll actually do it?

dood, why did u steal my flag? :(

It suited the nation ;) Well, that and I love you, and want to keep you close by me no matter what.
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Postby Lacadaemon » Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:48 pm

Greece should just default. It does so on average every 24 months, so nobody (except the pricks at the ECB) should be surprised.

I'm a big fan of repudiating debt that you didn't get yourself into, i.e, government. And nobody should have to put up with x years of debt servitude just because the government is wildly out of control.
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Postby Tahar Joblis » Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:21 pm

Nixon also proposed a set of national health care reforms rather more thorough than what Obama is now proposing. Yes, Virginia, the Republican party of today is extremist. ;)
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Martaz wrote:A socialist country goes bankrupt

what a shock!


Just as well conservatives don't rack up huge debt with out of control spending and low taxes!

Greece needs to be careful, you can only sell your assets once. Austerity is needed and seems to be the direction being taken, depsite the protests.

They could lease them. Or sell renewable assets. Why, if you're being told to sell off your country, that could be people or places!

It's going to be a subtle reverse bait-and-switch, so Germany wants to get in on a Greek slave market by telling the Greeks to sell land, so that Greece will respond by selling people. :lol2:

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:16 pm

Karsol wrote:
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Karsol wrote:You are Billions in Debt after Ronald Reagan and his 'capitalist' policies. :roll:


Not even fucking close to bankrupt, though. Nixon was truer capitalist (he also improved health care, supported Affirmative Action, and tired to increase welfare), and he cut the debt.

Woah..and the McCarthy-ers didn't think he was a communist spy? Wierd.

Thats cause Nixon was also into realpolitik

Consider also that Nixon opened up china! It is amazing no one thought he was commie. Still one of my fav presidents.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:19 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Karsol wrote:
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Karsol wrote:You are Billions in Debt after Ronald Reagan and his 'capitalist' policies. :roll:


Not even fucking close to bankrupt, though. Nixon was truer capitalist (he also improved health care, supported Affirmative Action, and tired to increase welfare), and he cut the debt.

Woah..and the McCarthy-ers didn't think he was a communist spy? Wierd.

Thats cause Nixon was also into realpolitik

Consider also that Nixon opened up china! It is amazing no one thought he was commie. Still one of my fav presidents.

I hear he wasnt a crook at any rate, :?

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Postby Tahar Joblis » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:31 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:Thats cause Nixon was also into realpolitik

Consider also that Nixon opened up china! It is amazing no one thought he was commie. Still one of my fav presidents.

The reason Nixon could open up to China without getting hit by the anti-red fear-monger crowd is because he was a big red-baiter in the day - not much behind McCarthy himself. He founded his political career on McCarthyism.

A Democratic president couldn't have afforded to open up trade with China without being labelled a commie pinko sympathizer.

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:50 pm

Tahar Joblis wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Thats cause Nixon was also into realpolitik

Consider also that Nixon opened up china! It is amazing no one thought he was commie. Still one of my fav presidents.

The reason Nixon could open up to China without getting hit by the anti-red fear-monger crowd is because he was a big red-baiter in the day - not much behind McCarthy himself. He founded his political career on McCarthyism.

A Democratic president couldn't have afforded to open up trade with China without being labelled a commie pinko sympathizer.


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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:25 am

Karsol wrote:Woah..and the McCarthy-ers didn't think he was a communist spy? Wierd.


No, according to his autobiography he launched a vicious anti-communist campaign so as to prevent this (see Alger Hiss). One of the reasons Nixon lost the debates with Kennedy is because Kennedy appeared far more hard-lined, though, since Nixon said that he found the idea of action against Cuba to be "dangerous", while Kennedy saw communist Cuba as "evil".

Nixon was the one who ended the idea that communism is America's enemy by opening the doors to China--the U.S. befriended a communist country.

You have to realize that Nixon was the living embodiment of lying. He would present whatever persona that would get him elected, which in his case was conservative (though during one of his first political interviews with the Republican Party he called himself "liberal"), while being extremely practical. He had no scruples, only a sense of what improved the nation. He presented himself as a Quaker and aligned himself with hardcore Christians like Norman Vincent Peale, but, by his own confession, he stopped believing Christ was the Son of God while in college.
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Postby Kalasparata » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:34 am

Lacadaemon wrote:Greece should just default. It does so on average every 24 months, so nobody (except the pricks at the ECB) should be surprised.

I'm a big fan of repudiating debt that you didn't get yourself into, i.e, government. And nobody should have to put up with x years of debt servitude just because the government is wildly out of control.

Have you even readf Greek history? Do you even know how significant Greece is? The EU will help Greece out. They have to. Who controls the Olympics........
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:34 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Karsol wrote:Woah..and the McCarthy-ers didn't think he was a communist spy? Wierd.


No, according to his autobiography he launched a vicious anti-communist campaign so as to prevent this (see Alger Hiss). One of the reasons Nixon lost the debates with Kennedy is because Kennedy appeared far more hard-lined, though, since Nixon said that he found the idea of action against Cuba to be "dangerous", while Kennedy saw communist Cuba as "evil".

Nixon was the one who ended the idea that communism is America's enemy by opening the doors to China--the U.S. befriended a communist country.

You have to realize that Nixon was the living embodiment of lying. He would present whatever persona that would get him elected, which in his case was conservative (though during one of his first political interviews with the Republican Party he called himself "liberal"), while being extremely practical. He had no scruples, only a sense of what improved the nation. He presented himself as a Quaker and aligned himself with hardcore Christians like Norman Vincent Peale, but but his own confession, he stopped believing Christ was the Son of God while in college.


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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:44 am

Yeah, except he got caught with his pants down.
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