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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:22 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Trump makes me appreciate Dubya.

Really? I dislike Trump, but I fucking despise Bush.

I like'd Bush.
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Postby Arlenton » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:23 pm

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San Lumen wrote:id rather not have another mass extinction and polluted air and water and a destroyed environment

Well that's a bit of a jump, isn't it?

Wow, stop being a climate change denier! You are too dumb to vote! Only smart people, like San Lumen, should vote.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:23 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:I'd rather not have a liberal supreme court.


Tough choice.

So you care about having a conservative court over the environment? Who cares if we destroy the environment as long as you get to keep your guns and voting rights act is completely gutted and gays cant marry and abortion is illegal and elections are rigged and hacked by a foreign power?

The elections were neither rigged nor hacked.

There was a major hacking and information campaign by a foreign power on behalf of a candidate who is now cozying up to it, which is problematic on its own, but there's no proof as of yet of any actual vote machine rigging or hacking, or rigging of paper elections.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:24 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Well that's a bit of a jump, isn't it?

Wow, stop being a climate change denier! You are too dumb to vote! Only smart people, like San Lumen, should vote.

San "Julian Assange should be executed" Lumen.
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Postby Othelos » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:24 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Really? I dislike Trump, but I fucking despise Bush.

I like'd Bush.

weren't you like 10 when he was in office
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:24 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Well that's a bit of a jump, isn't it?

Wow, stop being a climate change denier! You are too dumb to vote! Only smart people, like San Lumen, should vote.

"Fifth hurricane this month. What gives?"
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Postby Balkenreich » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:24 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:id rather not have another mass extinction and polluted air and water and a destroyed environment

Well that's a bit of a jump, isn't it?


Everything i dont like is a [MASS EXTINCTION EVENT THAT THREATENS ALL HUMAN LIFE].
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:25 pm

Othelos wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I like'd Bush.

weren't you like 10 when he was in office


Almost every body here was like 5 or 10.
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Postby The East Marches » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:25 pm

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They are fucking the greatest thing.

The last time the country went isolationist was during the Harding years. And history showed how that turned out.


It was our fault the Europeans were cowardly and refused to enforce their own treaties? Sounds alot like today tbh.
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Postby New Scario » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:25 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Wow, stop being a climate change denier! You are too dumb to vote! Only smart people, like San Lumen, should vote.

San "Julian Assange should be executed" Lumen.

Look out! A Russian hacker!
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Postby Arlenton » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:25 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:I'd rather not have a liberal supreme court.


Tough choice.

So you care about having a conservative court over the environment? Who cares if we destroy the environment as long as you get to keep your guns and voting rights act is completely gutted and gays cant marry and abortion is illegal and elections are rigged and hacked by a foreign power?

Yes.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:26 pm

Othelos wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I like'd Bush.

weren't you like 10 when he was in office

5 when was sworn in and 13 when he left.
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:27 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Gauthier wrote:The last time the country went isolationist was during the Harding years. And history showed how that turned out.


It was our fault the Europeans were cowardly and refused to enforce their own treaties? Sounds alot like today tbh.


I agree.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:27 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Gauthier wrote:The last time the country went isolationist was during the Harding years. And history showed how that turned out.


It was our fault the Europeans were cowardly and refused to enforce their own treaties? Sounds alot like today tbh.

Why not repeat history or even change it to where the aggressors won?
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Arlenton » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Really? I dislike Trump, but I fucking despise Bush.

I like'd Bush.

Same. I'm still disappointed Bush III didn't win.

Oh well, at least I'm not crying about it and blaming the Russians for some reason.

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Postby The East Marches » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:27 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
It was our fault the Europeans were cowardly and refused to enforce their own treaties? Sounds alot like today tbh.

Why not repeat history or even change it to where the aggressors won?


I like the option of letting the Europeans try to learn myself. We shouldn't clean up their messes. They are big kids now :^)
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Postby Ixzara » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:I'd rather not have a liberal supreme court.


Tough choice.

Well you might get a liberal one on social issues. Especially if Trump picks Judge Napolitano.

I would hardly call Napolitano liberal. Aside from his position on social issues, he's very much a conservative.
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:27 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
It was our fault the Europeans were cowardly and refused to enforce their own treaties? Sounds alot like today tbh.

Why not repeat history or even change it to where the aggressors won?


Would you like it? Because I wouldn't. I wouldn't even exist.
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Postby Balkenreich » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Othelos wrote:weren't you like 10 when he was in office

5 when was sworn in and 13 when he left.


Jesus Youre young, i was...15 when he was sworn in.

THERM YOU MADE ME FEEL OLD.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:27 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Wow, stop being a climate change denier! You are too dumb to vote! Only smart people, like San Lumen, should vote.

San "Julian Assange should be executed" Lumen.

Well I do think we should execute traitors and foreign spies
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Postby Arlenton » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:28 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Wow, stop being a climate change denier! You are too dumb to vote! Only smart people, like San Lumen, should vote.

San "Julian Assange should be executed" Lumen.

How dare you mock the Great Decider.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:28 pm

Ixzara wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well you might get a liberal one on social issues. Especially if Trump picks Judge Napolitano.

I would hardly call Napolitano liberal. Aside from his position on social issues, he's very much a conservative.

He's a libertarian not a conservative
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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Postby Balkenreich » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:San "Julian Assange should be executed" Lumen.

Well I do think we should execute traitors and foreign spies


Aint Julien assange Swedish?
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:San "Julian Assange should be executed" Lumen.

Well I do think we should execute traitors and foreign spies


Definitely traitors but I don't about foreign spies. They have their uses.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:29 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:San "Julian Assange should be executed" Lumen.

Well I do think we should execute traitors and foreign spies

I think calling Julian Assange is a traitor is ludicrous (given he's not even american) and calling him a spy is giving him waaaaay too much credit.
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