Elections, Hacking, Russia, And Trump: This Is Serious

[Uxupox]

Libya comes to mind with the forcing of american airstrikes and no-fly zones over the region.

Was our intervention in Libya contingent on our membership in NATO?

More like it was jump-forced by Britain and France two of our most closest of allies which belong in NATO then Obama had to go with it as a sign of support.

[Lady Scylla]

I don't disagree, but I'd also like Russia to know their place in the world and to GTFO of Ukraine.

They won't.

Then Russia needs to be challenged.

[Uxupox]

Libya comes to mind with the forcing of american airstrikes and no-fly zones over the region.

And how about when Russian troops moved into Ukraine?

No NATO response that's what happened.

[Uxupox]

They won't.

Then Russia needs to be challenged.

Set off a World War based on a regional conflict? No thanks.

[Geilinor]

Then Russia needs to be challenged.

Set off a World War based on a regional conflict? No thanks.

A Cold War at worst, not a world war.

[Uxupox]

Set off a World War based on a regional conflict? No thanks.

A Cold War at worst, not a world war.

Deployment of NATO troops in Ukraine will set off a chain of events that nobody could predict. Which can include either a cold war at most or perhaps escalating the conflict even further.

[Lady Scylla]

Then Russia needs to be challenged.

Set off a World War based on a regional conflict? No thanks.

It won't. It always deadlocks because neither wants MAD. There's a reason we resorted to proxy for over thirty years.

[Novus America]

Libya comes to mind with the forcing of american airstrikes and no-fly zones over the region.

And how about when Russian troops moved into Ukraine?

Umm when they did, we did nothing.

[Lady Scylla]

A Cold War at worst, not a world war.

Deployment of NATO troops in Ukraine will set off a chain of events that nobody could predict. Which can include either a cold war at most or perhaps escalating the conflict even further.

I'd prefer a missile system. They'll shrug off troops.

[New Werpland]

Was our intervention in Libya contingent on our membership in NATO?

More like it was jump-forced by Britain and France two of our most closest of allies which belong in NATO then Obama had to go with it as a sign of support.

The Senate asked for a no fly zone in Libya before Britain and France.

[Uxupox]

Deployment of NATO troops in Ukraine will set off a chain of events that nobody could predict. Which can include either a cold war at most or perhaps escalating the conflict even further.

I'd prefer a missile system. They'll shrug off troops.

That's just gonna restart the Cuba missile crisis all over again.

[San Lumen]

well Obama announced nothing of note at his press conference. He should have seen he was refusing to hand over power until proof treason was no committed. I fear we will soon have a banana republic where elections are only for show and its predetermined that the GOP always wins. Thats if even make it to 2018 or 2020 and even have a country.

[Uxupox]

More like it was jump-forced by Britain and France two of our most closest of allies which belong in NATO then Obama had to go with it as a sign of support.

The Senate asked for a no fly zone in Libya before Britain and France.

Can you get me the date? I can't find it when they approved it.

[Novus America]

Set off a World War based on a regional conflict? No thanks.

A Cold War at worst, not a world war.

Thing is we did not have a Cold War with Iran even. Not that we like Iran, but they are not a equal rival.
A Cold War need only be with someone who is actually on our level. And only China is. We again need to prioritize. China is threat number 1, obsessing over Russia only plays into China's hands.

But again we have wandered off topic.

[Uxupox]

well Obama announced nothing of note at his press conference. He should have seen he was refusing to hand over power until proof treason was no committed. I fear we will soon have a banana republic where elections are only for show and its predetermined that the GOP always wins. Thats if even make it to 2018 or 2020 and even have a country.

You don't even know what's a banana republic.

[Conserative Morality]

well Obama announced nothing of note at his press conference. He should have seen he was refusing to hand over power until proof treason was no committed. I fear we will soon have a banana republic where elections are only for show and its predetermined that the GOP always wins. Thats if even make it to 2018 or 2020 and even have a country.

Don't be melodramatic. This is bad, but it's not bad enough to start a constitutional crisis.

[Thermodolia]

It's all coming down for Trump: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win I wouldn't be surprised if the republicans impeach him in February.

[San Lumen]

well Obama announced nothing of note at his press conference. He should have seen he was refusing to hand over power until proof treason was no committed. I fear we will soon have a banana republic where elections are only for show and its predetermined that the GOP always wins. Thats if even make it to 2018 or 2020 and even have a country.

Don't be melodramatic. This is bad, but it's not bad enough to start a constitutional crisis.

Id rather see a constitutional crisis then see Trump take office and see the end of the republic and potentially the world.

[Thermodolia]

well Obama announced nothing of note at his press conference. He should have seen he was refusing to hand over power until proof treason was no committed. I fear we will soon have a banana republic where elections are only for show and its predetermined that the GOP always wins. Thats if even make it to 2018 or 2020 and even have a country.

You don't even know what's a banana republic.

Well for one the vast majority of the US can't grow bananas

[Conserative Morality]

It's all coming down for Trump: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win I wouldn't be surprised if the republicans impeach him in February.

Good. I hate Pence, but he's not a Russian stooge.

[Uxupox]

Don't be melodramatic. This is bad, but it's not bad enough to start a constitutional crisis.

Id rather see a constitutional crisis then see Trump take office and see the end of the republic and potentially the world.

holy

[San Lumen]

It's all coming down for Trump: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win I wouldn't be surprised if the republicans impeach him in February.

That would be great. As much as i hate Pence and disagree with on everything Id rather have him than Trump.

[Novus America]

It's all coming down for Trump: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win I wouldn't be surprised if the republicans impeach him in February.

On what grounds? What crime did Trump commit? And nobody has said the hacks actually changed the outcome of the election.
I disagree with Trump's view of Putin, but having a policy I disagree with is not a crime.

And that article also says Russia's goal was to undermine the credibility of the election. So right now it is the Democrats doing what Putin wants ironically enough.
And Trump would have been better off had this hack thing never happened. Funny how it turns like that.

[New Werpland]

The Senate asked for a no fly zone in Libya before Britain and France.

Can you get me the date? I can't find it when they approved it.

The first of March 2011.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/senate-resolution/85/text

[Uxupox]

It's all coming down for Trump: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win I wouldn't be surprised if the republicans impeach him in February.

Pence foreign policy is trash. Below that even.