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Do You Approve Of The Manner In Which Trump And His Team Are Handling The Transition?

Yes, absolutely
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Generally yes, but with some reservations that I'll post in the thread.
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Not sure/Neutral
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Generally no, but with some hopeful signs that I'll post in the thread
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Not at all
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Postby Maineiacs » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:10 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
It's why you can get brought to a judge for a trial, and not executed on the spot. Only time I recall that we actually suspended that was during the Civil War, and understandable in that case.

I know what habeas corpus IS. I don't know how Obama got rid of it.



He may be referring to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ ... ct_of_2006

And either not realized that it was from 2006, before Obama was President, or fully aware that it was under Bush, but hoping everyone else would think it was Obama.

If that's not what he meant then I have no idea WTF he was talking about.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:27 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:I know what habeas corpus IS. I don't know how Obama got rid of it.



He may be referring to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ ... ct_of_2006

And either not realized that it was from 2006, before Obama was President, or fully aware that it was under Bush, but hoping everyone else would think it was Obama.

If that's not what he meant then I have no idea WTF he was talking about.

...I don't know myself anymore actually.

The closest I got is this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012
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Postby Maineiacs » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:29 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

He may be referring to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ ... ct_of_2006

And either not realized that it was from 2006, before Obama was President, or fully aware that it was under Bush, but hoping everyone else would think it was Obama.

If that's not what he meant then I have no idea WTF he was talking about.

...I don't know myself anymore actually.

The closest I got is this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012



If I understand this correctly, Obama merely re-affirmed its demise after Bush got rid of it. Doesn't make it right, but he didn't kill it himself.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:17 am

Just found this: A Trump Christmas Carol. Great parody.
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Postby Lalaki » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:33 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

He may be referring to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ ... ct_of_2006

And either not realized that it was from 2006, before Obama was President, or fully aware that it was under Bush, but hoping everyone else would think it was Obama.

If that's not what he meant then I have no idea WTF he was talking about.

...I don't know myself anymore actually.

The closest I got is this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012


It's been a while since I've seen the NDAA FY2012 referenced. I fully agree that President Obama should have pushed for Sections 1021 and 1022 to be eliminated from the law -- but it's worth noting that the powers stipulated under these two provisions were already codified by the 2001 AUMF passed by Congress after 9/11. And there have been no documented cases under which there has been indefinite detention under the NDAA (at least in the sense where an American citizen was detained on our soil with no just cause).

The law is also pretty clear about indefinite detention only being applicable towards people who were involved in terrorist activities. There's an argument to be made that this power could be abused by a future POTUS, but I don't think that would stand the muster of a court challenge.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:59 am

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San Lumen wrote:How would it be fraud? I wouldn't consider it fraud. I'd be saving the country from itself. Trump is a danger to democracy and should be stopped from taking office or removed from office on day one. Id rather have Pence and for me that is saying something. At least he knows how to govern. He was a governor after all.

Discarding electoral college ballots isn't permitted by any rule in the election system that I'm aware of. Faithless electors are, but not ditching enough votes to choose the other person. Even if they could, I doubt they would.

Congress can, in fact, discard a state's electoral college votes. They could, in theory, discard the votes from every state that voted for Donald Trump. Of course, this is beyond unlikely and only technically distinct from impossible.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:48 pm

Camicon wrote:Just found this: A Trump Christmas Carol. Great parody.

Touching story actually. Too bad the real Trump is a sociopath.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:23 pm

Is Trump going to watch the Latvia vs Usa game?

"We are going to be yuugely successful in this game. We are going to grab victory by the pussy and never stop winning. We are going to buld a wall in the net and make Latvia pay for it."

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Postby Camicon » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:21 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Camicon wrote:Just found this: A Trump Christmas Carol. Great parody.

Touching story actually. Too bad the real Trump is a sociopath.

Kinda hope that Obama sees it and leaves Trump a puppy in the Oval Office.
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Postby Mensirada Nysgceballada Ghebanea » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:23 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Is Trump going to watch the Latvia vs Usa game?

"We are going to be yuugely successful in this game. We are going to grab victory by the pussy and never stop winning. We are going to buld a wall in the net and make Latvia pay for it."

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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:31 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:i know.

I'm going to miss the obamas SO much.



Miss Obama? Please, by February we're going to miss the eloquence of George W. Bush and the touchy-feely, kumbaya bi-partisanship of the Bill Clinton era.


Did somebody say miss George Bush? Wow, didn't even make it into the new administration before people started unintentionally referencing my flag.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:34 pm

Camicon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Touching story actually. Too bad the real Trump is a sociopath.

Kinda hope that Obama sees it and leaves Trump a puppy in the Oval Office.

One that hasn't been housebroken yet.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:39 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Camicon wrote:Kinda hope that Obama sees it and leaves Trump a puppy in the Oval Office.

One that hasn't been housebroken yet.

That would be cruel. To the puppy. Trump would throw a fit demanding the puppy be shot as a Danger To The President.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:43 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:One that hasn't been housebroken yet.

That would be cruel. To the puppy. Trump would throw a fit demanding the puppy be shot as a Danger To The President.

I would expect a Twitter Torrent with a lot of "SAD" and "FAIL" but I think his Minister of Apologies, Kellyanne Conway, would spirit the puppy away pretty quick.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:54 pm

So Assange has been gushing about Trump and seems to think that Russia has the most transparent government on the planet.

That bang you just heard was my sides breaking the sound barrier on their way to orbit.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:59 pm

Vassenor wrote:So Assange has been gushing about Trump and seems to think that Russia has the most transparent government on the planet.

That bang you just heard was my sides breaking the sound barrier on their way to orbit.

Assange is being quite ridiculous. Would he even be alive right now if he was Russian and released documents from the Russian government?
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:01 pm

Vassenor wrote:So Assange has been gushing about Trump and seems to think that Russia has the most transparent government on the planet.

That bang you just heard was my sides breaking the sound barrier on their way to orbit.


Obviously Assange is worse than trash but his criticism of Clinton comes from her comments of "droning this guy".

Geilinor wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So Assange has been gushing about Trump and seems to think that Russia has the most transparent government on the planet.

That bang you just heard was my sides breaking the sound barrier on their way to orbit.

Assange is being quite ridiculous. Would he even be alive right now if he was Russian and released documents from the Russian government?


He would have gone the way of Trotsky.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:04 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So Assange has been gushing about Trump and seems to think that Russia has the most transparent government on the planet.

That bang you just heard was my sides breaking the sound barrier on their way to orbit.


Obviously Assange is worse than trash but his criticism of Clinton comes from her comments of "droning this guy".

That was just locker room talk, come on.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:08 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So Assange has been gushing about Trump and seems to think that Russia has the most transparent government on the planet.

That bang you just heard was my sides breaking the sound barrier on their way to orbit.


Obviously Assange is worse than trash but his criticism of Clinton comes from her comments of "droning this guy".

It still hasn't been proven that she said that.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:09 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Obviously Assange is worse than trash but his criticism of Clinton comes from her comments of "droning this guy".

It still hasn't been proven that she said that.


But it fits the narrative so it must be true. Like how she was desperate for all-out war with Russia despite never saying so.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:12 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Obviously Assange is worse than trash but his criticism of Clinton comes from her comments of "droning this guy".

It still hasn't been proven that she said that.


Who in her team is gonna reveal that?
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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:12 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Geilinor wrote:It still hasn't been proven that she said that.


Who in her team is gonna reveal that?


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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:13 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Uxupox wrote:Who in her team is gonna reveal that?

Conspirisah. I've got some tinfoil if you want it.

Does it come with pizza?


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Postby Ifreann » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:14 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Obviously Assange is worse than trash but his criticism of Clinton comes from her comments of "droning this guy".

That was just locker room talk, come on.

Men in locker rooms boast about their irresistible sexual prowess. Women in locker rooms plot the elimination of political inconveniences.

It's no wonder feminists rule the world.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:16 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That was just locker room talk, come on.

Men in locker rooms boast about their irresistible sexual prowess. Women in locker rooms plot the elimination of political inconveniences.

It's no wonder feminists rule the world.

Trump'll fix that!
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