Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:58 pmMeeting with someone =/= agreeing with them on everything you know.
Meeting with someone =/= agreeing with them on everything you know.
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:58 pmMeeting with someone =/= agreeing with them on everything you know.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:59 pmAnd "it seems like this might have happened" =/= "this definitely happened".
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:00 pmBalkenreich wrote:The East Marches wrote:
The EU yes, because they are our direct competitor and it would be good to see them gone. NATO as Trump mentioned, doesn't pay up like its supposed to. He also right that it has many problems.
If Europe can be intimidated by Russia.
They'd be scared shitless if we parked a Carrier Group in the english channel or the north sea.
Not like they can do shit about it.
And that is exactly what the Euros want us to do. Pick up the tab so they do not have to. One of the few things I sort of agree on with mr Trump is that the Euros aren't carrying their weight.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:01 pmTrumpostan wrote:Balkenreich wrote:
If Europe can be intimidated by Russia.
They'd be scared shitless if we parked a Carrier Group in the english channel or the north sea.
Not like they can do shit about it.
And that is exactly what the Euros want us to do. Pick up the tab so they do not have to. One of the few things I sort of agree on with mr Trump is that the Euros aren't carrying their weight.
Estonia is!
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:02 pmThe East Marches wrote:
The EU yes, because they are our direct competitor and it would be good to see them gone. NATO as Trump mentioned, doesn't pay up like its supposed to. He also right that it has many problems.
Europe might actually be better off without the EU. Every single decision made there seems to be "not enough for half the countries, and too much for the other half". Too much compromise, and there are times when compromise is the worst possible thing (not always, but sometimes).
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:03 pmWhat are you trying to say? Sure Trump has advocated skepticism of global warming, my point was merely that you were incorrect to claim that meeting with a person means agreeing with them on everything, or a change of policy.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:04 pmTrumpostan wrote:Balkenreich wrote:
If Europe can be intimidated by Russia.
They'd be scared shitless if we parked a Carrier Group in the english channel or the north sea.
Not like they can do shit about it.
And that is exactly what the Euros want us to do. Pick up the tab so they do not have to. One of the few things I sort of agree on with mr Trump is that the Euros aren't carrying their weight.
Nah nah nah, That carrier group would have orders to fire upon any Euro Naval or aircraft that Looks at the Carrier's funny.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:04 pmNovus America wrote:Vassenor wrote:
And "it seems like this might have happened" =/= "this definitely happened".
What are you trying to say? Sure Trump has advocated skepticism of global warming, my point was merely that you were incorrect to claim that meeting with a person means agreeing with them on everything, or a change of policy.
I said it could suggest that. Not that it definitely meant that.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:07 pmU.S., U.K., Poland, Greece and Estonia. Maybe NATO should be just those five for now.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:08 pmVassenor wrote:Novus America wrote:
What are you trying to say? Sure Trump has advocated skepticism of global warming, my point was merely that you were incorrect to claim that meeting with a person means agreeing with them on everything, or a change of policy.
I said it could suggest that. Not that it definitely meant that.
I'm struggling to figure out what was actually newsworthy in that article. It admitted that it wasn't clear the guy was going to get a post, and the reason for the visit wasn't entirely clear.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:08 pmTrumpostan wrote:The East Marches wrote:
The EU yes, because they are our direct competitor and it would be good to see them gone. NATO as Trump mentioned, doesn't pay up like its supposed to. He also right that it has many problems.
Europe might actually be better off without the EU. Every single decision made there seems to be "not enough for half the countries, and too much for the other half". Too much compromise, and there are times when compromise is the worst possible thing (not always, but sometimes).
At the very least the EU is going to have to reform, to keep from falling apart.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:10 pmBalkenreich wrote:Trumpostan wrote:
And that is exactly what the Euros want us to do. Pick up the tab so they do not have to. One of the few things I sort of agree on with mr Trump is that the Euros aren't carrying their weight.
Nah nah nah, That carrier group would have orders to fire upon any Euro Naval or aircraft that Looks at the Carrier's funny.
They would just dismantle their militaries and let us keep doing all the work
I agree, but what would those reforms consist of?Novus America wrote:Trumpostan wrote:
Europe might actually be better off without the EU. Every single decision made there seems to be "not enough for half the countries, and too much for the other half". Too much compromise, and there are times when compromise is the worst possible thing (not always, but sometimes).
At the very least the EU is going to have to reform, to keep from falling apart.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:12 pmNovus America wrote:Trumpostan wrote:
Europe might actually be better off without the EU. Every single decision made there seems to be "not enough for half the countries, and too much for the other half". Too much compromise, and there are times when compromise is the worst possible thing (not always, but sometimes).
At the very least the EU is going to have to reform, to keep from falling apart.
Oh no.
Europe always needs a devastating conflict before it rights itself.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:14 pmThe United Colonies of Earth wrote:Balkenreich wrote:
Nah nah nah, That carrier group would have orders to fire upon any Euro Naval or aircraft that Looks at the Carrier's funny.
They would just dismantle their militaries and let us keep doing all the workI agree, but what would those reforms consist of?Novus America wrote:
At the very least the EU is going to have to reform, to keep from falling apart.
More workable, more accountable system of government, the current EU system is a mess. Less red tape for the sake of red tape. Less overbearing and micromanaging, more a lose association focused on a few issues. Something like the 10th amendment, but with more teeth.
Possibly have the EU be a lose association of several, smaller organizations. Say separate Nordic, Eastern European, Southern European, Central unions, with the EU a overarching coordinator, but most things delegated to lower levels.
Just some thoughts. But that is their problem, not ours.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:14 pmPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:15 pmNah nah nah.
More like Joint Russo-American-Polish-Anglo occupation zone.
Hey if the fucking Czechs want in on this shit too.
Get serbia.
Fuck Nato, We need a new alliance.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:19 pmNovus America wrote:The United Colonies of Earth wrote:They would just dismantle their militaries and let us keep doing all the work
I agree, but what would those reforms consist of?
More workable, more accountable system of government, the current EU system is a mess. Less red tape for the sake of red tape. Less overbearing and micromanaging, more a lose association focused on a few issues. Something equivalent to the 10th amendment, but with more teeth.
Just some thoughts. But that is their problem, not ours.
It seems to be the only way to appease the more sovereigntist groups in the Union.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:34 pmNow let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?
Totally unfunny one sided show SNL gets boring unfunny Alec Baldwin to ridicule my huge press conference!
NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:40 pmTrick question, they're both Trump?
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:40 pmGalloism wrote:Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?Totally unfunny one sided show SNL gets boring unfunny Alec Baldwin to ridicule my huge press conference!NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!
Top one is yours. :^)
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:43 pmPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:45 pmGalloism wrote:Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?Totally unfunny one sided show SNL gets boring unfunny Alec Baldwin to ridicule my huge press conference!NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!
The latter
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:51 pmGalloism wrote:Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?Totally unfunny one sided show SNL gets boring unfunny Alec Baldwin to ridicule my huge press conference!NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!
The former!
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:51 pmI have no idea what these answers mean.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:54 pm