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Do You Approve Of The Manner In Which Trump And His Team Are Handling The Transition?

Yes, absolutely
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28%
Generally yes, but with some reservations that I'll post in the thread.
84
11%
Not sure/Neutral
98
13%
Generally no, but with some hopeful signs that I'll post in the thread
49
6%
Not at all
320
42%
 
Total votes : 770

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:37 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Camicon wrote:Have you ever had everything you owned stripped away from you by the government, and then been thrown in a concentration camp for years, simply because of your ethnicity?


And?

Are you saying that's not wrong on a moral sense?

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:38 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:Earth Day will probably be done away with, since Trump doesn't think climate change exists.


Wasn't there a counter-Earth Day event organised before? Where they turned on every electrical device possible. Think it was called Human Achievement Day or some other such bollocks. Maybe that will be the new official day...


That was counter earth hour.

"Human Achievement Hour" is what they called it.

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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:38 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
And?

Are you saying that's not wrong on a moral sense?


Wrong in a moral and a logistical sense.

but comparing that to the Atrocities committed by the Japanese Empire and Nazi Germany?

Apples to oranges.
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:39 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
Wasn't there a counter-Earth Day event organised before? Where they turned on every electrical device possible. Think it was called Human Achievement Day or some other such bollocks. Maybe that will be the new official day...


That was counter earth hour.

"Human Achievement Hour" is what they called it.


Neat.
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Postby Camicon » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:40 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Camicon wrote:Maybe don't talk shit about something that you have no frame of reference for.


And?

Is there something you did not understand about what I said?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:40 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Are you saying that's not wrong on a moral sense?


Wrong in a moral and a logistical sense.

but comparing that to the Atrocities committed by the Japanese Empire and Nazi Germany?

Apples to oranges.


The point here is that it is wrong to do so. It wrong to take away rights to non criminal US citizens.

It is wrong.

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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:44 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
Wrong in a moral and a logistical sense.

but comparing that to the Atrocities committed by the Japanese Empire and Nazi Germany?

Apples to oranges.


The point here is that it is wrong to do so. It wrong to take away rights to non criminal US citizens.

It is wrong.

yes.

However, put yourself in their shoes.

As in the American government.

You have sustained an attack, you have hundreds of thousands of possible spies and paranoia of the american public is probably at an all time high.

Study some propaganda, some images pictured them as possible spies and collaborators which probably influenced some policy making on their part.

which is a shame, could've used some good recruits.
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Postby Camicon » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:49 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The point here is that it is wrong to do so. It wrong to take away rights to non criminal US citizens.

It is wrong.

yes.

However, put yourself in their shoes.

As in the American government.

You have sustained an attack, you have hundreds of thousands of possible spies and paranoia of the american public is probably at an all time high.

Study some propaganda, some images pictured them as possible spies and collaborators which probably influenced some policy making on their part.

which is a shame, could've used some good recruits.

Hundreds of thousands of citizens who happen to be of the same ethnicity as the people who attacked them, not 'possible spies'. The American government didn't shuffle off Caucasians into concentration camps when they started fighting the Nazi's, they didn't label them all as 'possible spies' simply because they had fair skin.
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:50 pm

Camicon wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:yes.

However, put yourself in their shoes.

As in the American government.

You have sustained an attack, you have hundreds of thousands of possible spies and paranoia of the american public is probably at an all time high.

Study some propaganda, some images pictured them as possible spies and collaborators which probably influenced some policy making on their part.

which is a shame, could've used some good recruits.

Hundreds of thousands of citizens who happen to be of the same ethnicity as the people who attacked them, not 'possible spies'. The American government didn't shuffle off Caucasians into concentration camps when they started fighting the Nazi's, they didn't label them all as 'possible spies' simply because they had fair skin.


you have the first world war to thank for that.
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Postby Camicon » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:51 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Camicon wrote:Hundreds of thousands of citizens who happen to be of the same ethnicity as the people who attacked them, not 'possible spies'. The American government didn't shuffle off Caucasians into concentration camps when they started fighting the Nazi's, they didn't label them all as 'possible spies' simply because they had fair skin.


you have the first world war to thank for that.

My points stand.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:52 pm

Camicon wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:yes.

However, put yourself in their shoes.

As in the American government.

You have sustained an attack, you have hundreds of thousands of possible spies and paranoia of the american public is probably at an all time high.

Study some propaganda, some images pictured them as possible spies and collaborators which probably influenced some policy making on their part.

which is a shame, could've used some good recruits.

Hundreds of thousands of citizens who happen to be of the same ethnicity as the people who attacked them, not 'possible spies'. The American government didn't shuffle off Caucasians into concentration camps when they started fighting the Nazi's, they didn't label them all as 'possible spies' simply because they had fair skin.


Even people like Henry Ford who had openly endorsed the Nazi regime.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:54 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The point here is that it is wrong to do so. It wrong to take away rights to non criminal US citizens.

It is wrong.

yes.

However, put yourself in their shoes.

As in the American government.

You have sustained an attack, you have hundreds of thousands of possible spies and paranoia of the american public is probably at an all time high.

Study some propaganda, some images pictured them as possible spies and collaborators which probably influenced some policy making on their part.

which is a shame, could've used some good recruits.

Still makes it wrong.

Nothing can justify it.

When 1812 happened, you didn't put all Canadian's in camps.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:59 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:yes.

However, put yourself in their shoes.

As in the American government.

You have sustained an attack, you have hundreds of thousands of possible spies and paranoia of the american public is probably at an all time high.

Study some propaganda, some images pictured them as possible spies and collaborators which probably influenced some policy making on their part.

which is a shame, could've used some good recruits.

Still makes it wrong.

Nothing can justify it.

When 1812 happened, you didn't put all Canadian's in camps.


We probably should have :p
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:59 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:yes.

However, put yourself in their shoes.

As in the American government.

You have sustained an attack, you have hundreds of thousands of possible spies and paranoia of the american public is probably at an all time high.

Study some propaganda, some images pictured them as possible spies and collaborators which probably influenced some policy making on their part.

which is a shame, could've used some good recruits.

Still makes it wrong.

Nothing can justify it.

When 1812 happened, you didn't put all Canadian's in camps.


Simple solution.

Press them into service in the US navy.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:01 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Still makes it wrong.

Nothing can justify it.

When 1812 happened, you didn't put all Canadian's in camps.


We probably should have :p

Oh you. :P

*boops*

We would just break out with our Maple syrup powers.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:03 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Still makes it wrong.

Nothing can justify it.

When 1812 happened, you didn't put all Canadian's in camps.


Simple solution.

Press them into service in the US navy.



Didn't work in Vietnam, wouldn't have worked then.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:04 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Still makes it wrong.

Nothing can justify it.

When 1812 happened, you didn't put all Canadian's in camps.


Simple solution.

Press them into service in the US navy.


Which would be hypocritical considering the impressment of American citizens into British service was one of the causes of the war.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:05 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
Simple solution.

Press them into service in the US navy.


Which would be hypocritical considering the impressment of American citizens into British service was one of the causes of the war.

It would have confused the British long enough for the US to capture most of Canada, though.
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:06 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
Simple solution.

Press them into service in the US navy.



Didn't work in Vietnam, wouldn't have worked then.


Thats what the English shouldve learned.
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Postby Chestaan » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:06 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
Simple solution.

Press them into service in the US navy.


Which would be hypocritical considering the impressment of American citizens into British service was one of the causes of the war.


But since when has hypocrisy ever stopped the US military? :P
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:07 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:yes.

However, put yourself in their shoes.

As in the American government.

You have sustained an attack, you have hundreds of thousands of possible spies and paranoia of the american public is probably at an all time high.

Study some propaganda, some images pictured them as possible spies and collaborators which probably influenced some policy making on their part.

which is a shame, could've used some good recruits.

Still makes it wrong.

Nothing can justify it.

When 1812 happened, you didn't put all Canadian's in camps.


It may be morally wrong, but governments don't care about morals but about expediency.

Never underestimate the will and power of your own government in fucking you over for being on the wrong side of the political fence.
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:08 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
Simple solution.

Press them into service in the US navy.


Which would be hypocritical considering the impressment of American citizens into British service was one of the causes of the war.


Nope.

What matters is that your shitty guns had cannon balls that bounced off our Hulls.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:08 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

Didn't work in Vietnam, wouldn't have worked then.


Thats what the English shouldve learned.


The doctor wasn't around then to tell them that was a bad idea. :P

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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:08 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Still makes it wrong.

Nothing can justify it.

When 1812 happened, you didn't put all Canadian's in camps.


It may be morally wrong, but governments don't care about morals but about expediency.

Never underestimate the will and power of your own government in fucking you over for being on the wrong side of the political fence.


Yep.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:09 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Still makes it wrong.

Nothing can justify it.

When 1812 happened, you didn't put all Canadian's in camps.


It may be morally wrong, but governments don't care about morals but about expediency.

Never underestimate the will and power of your own government in fucking you over for being on the wrong side of the political fence.


It was a waste of time and money.

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