Trump MAGAthread II: Donald and Mike go to the White House

[Oil exporting People]

So is this movie going to be called "Rapist propaganda"?

What? Why?

I assume because one of the people in that movie defended Trump.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

What? Why?

I assume because one of the people in that movie defended Trump.

Nope, It was a dumb joke.

[Germanic Templars]

What? Why?

NVM, it was a joke.

Mexicans.. Now imagine that with the "Aliens"meme but with Trump's head.. Also poor joke indeed, but ya tried.

[Chestaan]

The Arab Spring began as protests iirc

And got Egypt a authoritarian rightwing stratocracy, Syria and Libya civil wars and roving bands of fundamentalist death squads. ISIS too. And in most places was swiftly put down by force.
Only place it kind of worked okay is Tunisia.

Mattis the new el-Sisi? What are you expecting to come from that?

You said that protests won't get change, I disagreed and am using the Arab Springs as an example of where protests worked to affect change. And like you said, it worked in Tunisia, why can't it work in the US?

[Ashmoria]

ooooo what can i vote for between now and Friday that will stop trump? vowing to do something that might have an effect 2 years from now doesn't help keep 20+million people from having their insurance cancelled.

They missed their chance and now they must live with the consequences. But certainly civil war won't bring insurance nor improve the general situation. Better to wait two years and cause problems in Congress than resort to the gun no?

guns are bad. resistance is good.

[Ashmoria]

So is anyone going to get involved in the upcoming protests? I hear that a group called Disruptj20 is planning on doing everything they can to stop the innaguration.

I am planning on going to the Albuquerque local women's march on Saturday.

[The Flutterlands]

So what does Disruptj20 expect to achieve out of trying to 'stop' the inauguration? It all sounds like a futile attempt which it is. Trump will be President and as long as you're an American Citizen he will be your President.

[Ashmoria]

So what does Disruptj20 expect to achieve out of trying to 'stop' the inauguration? It all sounds like a futile attempt which it is. Trump will be President and as long as you're an American Citizen he will be your President.

who cares? they'll probably be arrested before they can do anything disruptive.

[Lady Scylla]

So what does Disruptj20 expect to achieve out of trying to 'stop' the inauguration? It all sounds like a futile attempt which it is. Trump will be President and as long as you're an American Citizen he will be your President.

Well, he's not my President. I only support the true leader, Her Majesty. *nodnod*

#MAGBA

[Ifreann]

So what does Disruptj20 expect to achieve out of trying to 'stop' the inauguration? It all sounds like a futile attempt which it is. Trump will be President and as long as you're an American Citizen he will be your President.

Trump would probably throw a tantrum if the public part of his inauguration doesn't go down like one of his rallies. Which would be hilarious.

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So what does Disruptj20 expect to achieve out of trying to 'stop' the inauguration? It all sounds like a futile attempt which it is. Trump will be President and as long as you're an American Citizen he will be your President.

Well, he's not my President. I only support the true leader, Her Majesty. *nodnod*

#MAGBA

You say that now, but wait until Charles takes over.

[Lady Scylla]

So what does Disruptj20 expect to achieve out of trying to 'stop' the inauguration? It all sounds like a futile attempt which it is. Trump will be President and as long as you're an American Citizen he will be your President.

Trump would probably throw a tantrum if the public part of his inauguration doesn't go down like one of his rallies. Which would be hilarious.

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Well, he's not my President. I only support the true leader, Her Majesty. *nodnod*

#MAGBA

You say that now, but wait until Charles takes over.

Pretty sure, the way HM is going, Charles might kick the bucket long before her Eternal Majesty.

[Chestaan]

So is anyone going to get involved in the upcoming protests? I hear that a group called Disruptj20 is planning on doing everything they can to stop the innaguration.

I am planning on going to the Albuquerque local women's march on Saturday.

The Women's March in Washington on the 21st is supposedly going to be bigger than the inauguration and protests on the 20th combined. They're expecting 200,000 or more iirc.

[Ashmoria]

I am planning on going to the Albuquerque local women's march on Saturday.

The Women's March in Washington on the 21st is supposedly going to be bigger than the inauguration and protests on the 20th combined. They're expecting 200,000 or more iirc.

yeah. its too far for me to go but there will be rallies all over the country. in NM they are planned in Albuquerque, santa fe, and las cruces.

id go to las cruces since its in my congressional district but it is 150 miles while Albuquerque is only 75.

[Chestaan]

The Women's March in Washington on the 21st is supposedly going to be bigger than the inauguration and protests on the 20th combined. They're expecting 200,000 or more iirc.

yeah. its too far for me to go but there will be rallies all over the country. in NM they are planned in Albuquerque, santa fe, and las cruces.

id go to las cruces since its in my congressional district but it is 150 miles while Albuquerque is only 75.

Dayum, props for making it that far for a protest. I guess that's the thing about America, most people live so far from the centres of power. Whereas here, in Ireland, Dublin is just a shortish bus/train journey for most o us.

[Novus America]

And got Egypt a authoritarian rightwing stratocracy, Syria and Libya civil wars and roving bands of fundamentalist death squads. ISIS too. And in most places was swiftly put down by force.
Only place it kind of worked okay is Tunisia.

Mattis the new el-Sisi? What are you expecting to come from that?

You said that protests won't get change, I disagreed and am using the Arab Springs as an example of where protests worked to affect change. And like you said, it worked in Tunisia, why can't it work in the US?

Well the US is not Tunisia and it was a disaster or failure everywhere else. Also conditions in Tunisia were very different, they were over throwing a dictator who had been in power decades not an elected leader. So that is why. The US is not Tunisia.

You have every right to peacefully protest. But that will not stop Trump being inaugurated or the new government changing things.

Really thing that matters is organizing and voting in 2018. Protests are also only expressions of what people already feel, they alone are not a convincing way to change minds.

[Liriena]

Exclusive: The Trump Administration May Evict the Press from the White House


Aaaaaand it's confirmed. You elected your very own Nicolás Maduro. Your very first Cristina Fernandez.

10/10
You're finally following our example, America.

[PaNTuXIa]

Exclusive: The Trump Administration May Evict the Press from the White House


Aaaaaand it's confirmed. You elected your very own Nicolás Maduro. Your very first Cristina Fernandez.

10/10
You're finally following our example, America.

Way to overdramatize much?

[Vassenor]

Exclusive: The Trump Administration May Evict the Press from the White House


Aaaaaand it's confirmed. You elected your very own Nicolás Maduro. Your very first Cristina Fernandez.

10/10
You're finally following our example, America.

Way to overdramatize much?

When you start throwing around the idea that the press is as much an opposition party as the Democrats, then there's problems.

[Chestaan]

You said that protests won't get change, I disagreed and am using the Arab Springs as an example of where protests worked to affect change. And like you said, it worked in Tunisia, why can't it work in the US?

Well the US is not Tunisia and it was a disaster or failure everywhere else. Also conditions in Tunisia were very different, they were over throwing a dictator who had been in power decades not an elected leader. So that is why. The US is not Tunisia.

And neither is the US Egypt, Syria or Libya. Saying that the movements failed in those nations therefore something similar will happen in the US is only as legitimate as saying that revolutionary movements have succeeded in some countries throughout history, Tunisia recently, therefore the US will also have similar results.

My point is, protest, and civil disobedience is not a fruitless act as it has succeeded several times in achieving real change. Whether or not any particular act will work or not is highly dependent on individual circumstances. Look at the various civil rights movements throughout history that have broken the law. Would you tell Rosa Parks or Nelson Mandela that they should have tried to work through the system rather than engaging in direct action? And if in the course of this direct action they are attacked, do they not have a right to defend themselves? A man who is promising mass deportations, pushing Islamophobia and racist policies has just been elected without even winning the biggest share of the vote. That's a broken system.

[Valrifell]

Way to overdramatize much?

When you start throwing around the idea that the press is as much an opposition party as the Democrats, then there's problems.

When the media says your preferred party may not be the best thing since sliced bread, you don't care about the implications of silencing them.

[Novus America]

Exclusive: The Trump Administration May Evict the Press from the White House


Aaaaaand it's confirmed. You elected your very own Nicolás Maduro. Your very first Cristina Fernandez.

10/10
You're finally following our example, America.

May is different than will, and it would at most be relocating them to a different room in the complex. Not the end of the world or anything. And it would be more Hugo Chavez than Maduro, Maduro just is a pawn for the Venezuelan establishment. He has no ideas or thoughts of his own. And is not charismatic at all.

I do see the parallels with the Fernandezes though, even if on other sides of the political spectrum.

[Major-Tom]

Exclusive: The Trump Administration May Evict the Press from the White House


Aaaaaand it's confirmed. You elected your very own Nicolás Maduro. Your very first Cristina Fernandez.

10/10
You're finally following our example, America.

May is different than will, and it would at most be relocating them to a different room in the complex. Not the end of the world or anything. And it would be more Hugo Chavez than Maduro, Maduro just is a pawn for the Venezuelan establishment. He has no ideas or thoughts of his own. And is not charismatic at all.

I do see the parallels with the Fernandezes though, even if on other sides of the political spectrum.

Yeah, I see Berlusconi parallels the most. Been saying it since before the political intellectuals even saw those parallels.

Whatever. Italy isn't all that bad.

[Liriena]

Exclusive: The Trump Administration May Evict the Press from the White House


Aaaaaand it's confirmed. You elected your very own Nicolás Maduro. Your very first Cristina Fernandez.

10/10
You're finally following our example, America.

Way to overdramatize much?

Not really. From where I'm standing, the only thing that really distinguishes Trump from Cristina Fernandez is that Fernandez liked to pretend that she was in fact left-wing, occasionally played the woman card to gaslight her opponents, and although she was prone to doing and saying stupid things now and then, she was not nearly as arrogantly clueless as Trump.

Maduro and Fernandez, much like Trump, were democratically elected, notoriously vindictive and thin-skinned, nationalistic and authoritarian in rhetoric (and quite hypocritical about it), and obscenely corrupt. Fernandez in particular, much like Trump, had terrible social media habits and liked to surround herself with fanatics. She seldom allowed herself to be questioned in public, which means press conferences were extremely rare, and if she had any dialogue with anyone during her speeches, it was with handpicked props, like members of her party pretending to be workers at a factory. And much like Trump, she was a wealthy person and hotel entrepeneur, living a life of luxury, while she derided the urban middle and upper classes as elitist... even though she herself showed quite a bit of elitism of her own (such as when she objected to being booed at by students at Harvard by reminding them that they were students at Harvard, not at the University of La Matanza, which is a working class municipality).

Trump is every Latin American populist of the past two decades. And that should worry you immensely.

[Liriena]

Exclusive: The Trump Administration May Evict the Press from the White House


Aaaaaand it's confirmed. You elected your very own Nicolás Maduro. Your very first Cristina Fernandez.

10/10
You're finally following our example, America.

May is different than will, and it would at most be relocating them to a different room in the complex. Not the end of the world or anything. And it would be more Hugo Chavez than Maduro, Maduro just is a pawn for the Venezuelan establishment. He has no ideas or thoughts of his own. And is not charismatic at all.

I see more of Maduro than Chavez in Trump, because Chavez, for all his glaring flaws, seemed at least somewhat shrewd at actually running the country.

Yeah, I see Berlusconi parallels the most. Been saying it since before the political intellectuals even saw those parallels.

Whatever. Italy isn't all that bad.

I think that's more a testament to the fortitude of Italy and its political system than Berlusconi's virtues as Prime Minister.

[Novus America]

Well the US is not Tunisia and it was a disaster or failure everywhere else. Also conditions in Tunisia were very different, they were over throwing a dictator who had been in power decades not an elected leader. So that is why. The US is not Tunisia.

And neither is the US Egypt, Syria or Libya. Saying that the movements failed in those nations therefore something similar will happen in the US is only as legitimate as saying that revolutionary movements have succeeded in some countries throughout history, Tunisia recently, therefore the US will also have similar results.

My point is, protest, and civil disobedience is not a fruitless act as it has succeeded several times in achieving real change. Whether or not any particular act will work or not is highly dependent on individual circumstances. Look at the various civil rights movements throughout history that have broken the law. Would you tell Rosa Parks or Nelson Mandela that they should have tried to work through the system rather than engaging in direct action? And if in the course of this direct action they are attacked, do they not have a right to defend themselves? A man who is promising mass deportations, pushing Islamophobia and racist policies has just been elected without even winning the biggest share of the vote. That's a broken system.

Odds are not good my point is.
Also Rosa Parks (and others) raised attention to a problem, it only worked because people in congress were sympathetic and there was bipartisan opposition to government enforced segregation. Ultimately what was done was through congress and courts.

Deportation of illegal immigrants is not wrong according to most. It is merely enforcing the law. And every president has done it. It is not something new.
He used Islamophobia some, but he did not create it. He is a populist that used what appealed to people. Islam needs to fix its crisis or Islamophobia will not end. Though he toned that down anyways. What racist policies? He has been very short on actual policies, outside of trade.

You politically disagree with him and indeed the vast majority of the US population as you are a communist. You can vote and protest if you wish. But that will not control what the president and congress do, and have every right to do.