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Do You Approve Of The Manner In Which Trump And His Team Are Handling The Transition?

Yes, absolutely
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28%
Generally yes, but with some reservations that I'll post in the thread.
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11%
Not sure/Neutral
98
13%
Generally no, but with some hopeful signs that I'll post in the thread
49
6%
Not at all
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42%
 
Total votes : 770

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Postby Big Brain City » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:24 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Those are not simple tasks for him, they strike at the core of his being. Twitter must have made his heart race when he discovered it, suddenly he could broadcast his every thought to a worldwide audience.

His every thought would be tweeted, even if they would dent his approval ratings.

It's not like 59 percent of Americans would fanatically buy all the trumpgear anyway.
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Postby Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:30 pm

So is anyone going to get involved in the upcoming protests? I hear that a group called Disruptj20 is planning on doing everything they can to stop the innaguration.
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Postby Big Brain City » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:37 pm

Chestaan wrote:So is anyone going to get involved in the upcoming protests? I hear that a group called Disruptj20 is planning on doing everything they can to stop the innaguration.

Maybe.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:39 pm

Chestaan wrote:So is anyone going to get involved in the upcoming protests? I hear that a group called Disruptj20 is planning on doing everything they can to stop the innaguration.

While they do have the right to protest, it all sounds overblown and immature, and will only prove futile, but also only deepen the divide in this country...

In the meantime, I'm going to be at home enjoying the Inauguration, wishing the 45th President the best and that be doesn't ruin everything...
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Postby Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:41 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Chestaan wrote:So is anyone going to get involved in the upcoming protests? I hear that a group called Disruptj20 is planning on doing everything they can to stop the innaguration.

While they do have the right to protest, it all sounds overblown and immature, and will only prove futile, but also only deepen the divide in this country...


Disruptj20 in particular or all protests?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:43 pm

Chestaan wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:While they do have the right to protest, it all sounds overblown and immature, and will only prove futile, but also only deepen the divide in this country...


Disruptj20 in particular or all protests?

Really, any non-peaceful protests and since Disruptj20 seems to be out to ruin the Inauguration all together, that one included...
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:44 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Chestaan wrote:So is anyone going to get involved in the upcoming protests? I hear that a group called Disruptj20 is planning on doing everything they can to stop the innaguration.

While they do have the right to protest, it all sounds overblown and immature, and will only prove futile, but also only deepen the divide in this country...

In the meantime, I'm going to be at home enjoying the Inauguration, wishing the 45th President the best and that be doesn't ruin everything...

No more immature than the people running around wearing three-cornered hats festooned with teabags (invented in 1911) after Obama was sworn in in 2009.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:45 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:While they do have the right to protest, it all sounds overblown and immature, and will only prove futile, but also only deepen the divide in this country...

In the meantime, I'm going to be at home enjoying the Inauguration, wishing the 45th President the best and that he doesn't ruin everything...

No more immature than the people running around wearing three-cornered hats festooned with teabags (invented in 1911) after Obama was sworn in in 2009.

True, but did the Tea Party go around beating people up and causing vandalism to people because they voted republican?
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Postby Novus America » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:47 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Liriena wrote:No argument there.

Donald Trump thinks he's above reproach or criticism. He cannot abide people saying he's wrong. Look at when he lashes out on Twitter, it's always after someone says something "Mean" about him or needles him. We don't need someone with the emotional stability of a spoiled teenage girl running the country, though that's what we're about to get. Someone on his team needs to wrestle his phone or whatever he uses out of his hands and keep it away from him. On the other hand, he's not the person I voted for, so him making a fool of himself isn't all bad.


Sure. Or mainly his team just have to keep him from making actual decisions.
I did not vote for him either, but I want him to succeed in making the country better if he can. As long as he sticks to Twitter and leaves actual governance to others, eh no big deal.
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Postby Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:47 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
Disruptj20 in particular or all protests?

Really, any non-peaceful protests and since Disruptj20 seems to be out to ruin the Inauguration all together, that one included...


Well nothing is going to be achieved by asking nicely... This is a president who intends deport millions and if he can kick out refugees and potentially other Muslims as well. His presidency could well be a matter of life and death for thousands if not millions of people. If that's not worth fighting for then I don't know what is.
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Postby Balkenreich » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:48 pm

Chestaan wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Really, any non-peaceful protests and since Disruptj20 seems to be out to ruin the Inauguration all together, that one included...


Well nothing is going to be achieved by asking nicely... This is a president who intends deport millions and if he can kick out refugees and potentially other Muslims as well. His presidency could well be a matter of life and death for thousands if not millions of people. If that's not worth fighting for then I don't know what is.


doing something productive?
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Postby Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:48 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:No more immature than the people running around wearing three-cornered hats festooned with teabags (invented in 1911) after Obama was sworn in in 2009.

True, but did the Tea Party go around beating people up and causing vandalism to people because they voted republican?


I know you mean the modern group but the actual Boston tea party was an event that was specifically about vandalising property and it is widely celebrated by Americans.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:49 pm

Chestaan wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Really, any non-peaceful protests and since Disruptj20 seems to be out to ruin the Inauguration all together, that one included...


Well nothing is going to be achieved by asking nicely... This is a president who intends deport millions and if he can kick out refugees and potentially other Muslims as well. His presidency could well be a matter of life and death for thousands if not millions of people. If that's not worth fighting for then I don't know what is.

Obama deported millions too. So it'll just be business as usual in that regard...

Really though, people are literally acting like we elected Hitler, Sauron or even Darth Sidious...
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Postby Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:50 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
Well nothing is going to be achieved by asking nicely... This is a president who intends deport millions and if he can kick out refugees and potentially other Muslims as well. His presidency could well be a matter of life and death for thousands if not millions of people. If that's not worth fighting for then I don't know what is.

Obama deported millions too. So it'll just be business as usual in that regard...

Really though, people are literally acting like we elected Hitler, Sauron or even Darth Sidious...


Yep, Obama was pretty shit too. Nothing on the scale Trump is promising though.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:50 pm

Chestaan wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:True, but did the Tea Party go around beating people up and causing vandalism to people because they voted republican?


I know you mean the modern group but the actual Boston tea party was an event that was specifically about vandalising property and it is widely celebrated by Americans.

True.
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Postby Balkenreich » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:50 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
Well nothing is going to be achieved by asking nicely... This is a president who intends deport millions and if he can kick out refugees and potentially other Muslims as well. His presidency could well be a matter of life and death for thousands if not millions of people. If that's not worth fighting for then I don't know what is.

Obama deported millions too. So it'll just be business as usual in that regard...

Really though, people are literally acting like we elected Hitler, Sauron or even Darth Sidious...


They aint gonna do shit.
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Postby Big Brain City » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:50 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
Well nothing is going to be achieved by asking nicely... This is a president who intends deport millions and if he can kick out refugees and potentially other Muslims as well. His presidency could well be a matter of life and death for thousands if not millions of people. If that's not worth fighting for then I don't know what is.

Obama deported millions too. So it'll just be business as usual in that regard...

Really though, people are literally acting like we elected Hitler, Sauron or even Darth Sidious...

That is who we were told was being elected, yes.
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Postby Aryan Nation » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:54 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:I think it was unwise for Trump to jab at Lewis. He could've said nothing, but he couldn't restrain himself to do so. Man, his approval ratings are abysmal, but it may go down.


Who gives a fuck about Lewis? I don't have one iota of a fuck for that guy. If i was around back then, the whole selma thing would have went differently.

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Postby Novus America » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:56 pm

Chestaan wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Really, any non-peaceful protests and since Disruptj20 seems to be out to ruin the Inauguration all together, that one included...


Well nothing is going to be achieved by asking nicely... This is a president who intends deport millions and if he can kick out refugees and potentially other Muslims as well. His presidency could well be a matter of life and death for thousands if not millions of people. If that's not worth fighting for then I don't know what is.


Starting a riot will not do anything to stop his policies. Which at this point, a lot are very unclear so we do not even know what he will do.

People rioted and protested against Nixon, who went in very unpopular.
They backfired liked crazy. I doubt you want a repeat of 1972. Then your only hope is he pulls a Watergate.

Instead start organizing for 2018 if you want to change things. The elections happened, you side lost, things you do not want to happen will happen.
That is how it goes. If you want change be proactive. Riots are reactive.
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Postby Big Brain City » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:56 pm

Aryan Nation wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I think it was unwise for Trump to jab at Lewis. He could've said nothing, but he couldn't restrain himself to do so. Man, his approval ratings are abysmal, but it may go down.


Who gives a fuck about Lewis? I don't have one iota of a fuck for that guy. If i was around back then, the whole selma thing would have went differently.

Yes, we all know you would have enforced segregation with terror and murder. Carry on.
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Postby Aryan Nation » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:57 pm

Big Brain City wrote:
Aryan Nation wrote:
Who gives a fuck about Lewis? I don't have one iota of a fuck for that guy. If i was around back then, the whole selma thing would have went differently.

Yes, we all know you would have enforced segregation with terror and murder. Carry on.


I don't think segregation would have been necessary.

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Postby Liriena » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:58 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
Well nothing is going to be achieved by asking nicely... This is a president who intends deport millions and if he can kick out refugees and potentially other Muslims as well. His presidency could well be a matter of life and death for thousands if not millions of people. If that's not worth fighting for then I don't know what is.


doing something productive?

It could be argued that going out to the streets and using force sounds like far more meaningful action than keyboard activism.
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Postby Big Brain City » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:58 pm

Aryan Nation wrote:
Big Brain City wrote:Yes, we all know you would have enforced segregation with terror and murder. Carry on.


I don't think segregation would have been necessary.

Well then. Apologies for wildly inferring.
What is your plan of action for 1965 then?
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Postby Big Brain City » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:59 pm

Liriena wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
doing something productive?

It could be argued that going out to the streets and using force sounds like far more meaningful action than keyboard activism.

Or otherwise not attempting to interfere with the sociopolitical machinery Trump will use to support himself.
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Postby Balkenreich » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:59 pm

Liriena wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
doing something productive?

It could be argued that going out to the streets and using force sounds like far more meaningful action than keyboard activism.


Nice, give the riot cops an excuse.

Meanwhile as THAT is happening, youll be on the computer at home in argentina.

Doing. Nothing.
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