Trump MAGAthread II: Donald and Mike go to the White House

[Lady Scylla]

Have we gotten any details on the "replace" part?

Not really.
Though again "replace" is a misleading term. You do not change the ACA itself, you change the code.

Yes, Novus. You have explained this several times before. We get it.

[Novus America]

Not really.
Though again "replace" is a misleading term. You do not change the ACA itself, you change the code.

Yes, Novus. You have explained this several times before. We get it.

Thing is few Americans do get it. So the political discourse on this is all screwed up.
We will have to see what changes they wish to make to the code though.

[Thermodolia]

Senate approved the waiver for General Mattis 81-17.

Here are the 17 Democrats who disapproved.
Baldwin WI
Duckworth IL
Leahy VT
Murphy CT
Tester MT
Warren MA
Blumenthal CT
Durbin IL
Markey MA
Murray WA
Udall NM
Wyden OR
Booker NJ
Gillibrand NY
Merkley OR
Sanders VT
Van Hollan MD


Hint to fellow Republicans, come 2018, be sure to let Montana's conservative voters know how Tester feels about General Mattis being Secretary of Defense.

A lot of those democrat like the guy. But they did say that he won't get in easily

[Katganistan]

It was the Obama administration that oversaw the rise of this phenomena, and did shit like the dear colleague letter, race-baiting over BLM etc.
I think he's a cultural marxist of the frankfurt kind, and abused his office to try and push it on the public.

The legalization of propaganda is one way he did so.

We'll see if when Trump takes office and all the SJW crap dies off within a year or so. Then we'll know never to elect a Democrat like him again.

The SJW's won't go down without a fight. You might think that they'd take the election as a sign that they're loathed because their terrible, but no, they doubled down with muh patriarchy/systemic oppression. They're going to keep up their autistic screeching until the bitter end.

*** 3 day ban for flamebait/trolling *** You'd best learn how to make your points without namecalling.

[Arlenton]

Senate approved the waiver for General Mattis 81-17.

Here are the 17 Democrats who disapproved.
Baldwin WI
Duckworth IL
Leahy VT
Murphy CT
Tester MT
Warren MA
Blumenthal CT
Durbin IL
Markey MA
Murray WA
Udall NM
Wyden OR
Booker NJ
Gillibrand NY
Merkley OR
Sanders VT
Van Hollan MD


Hint to fellow Republicans, come 2018, be sure to let Montana's conservative voters know how Tester feels about General Mattis being Secretary of Defense.

A lot of those democrat like the guy. But they did say that he won't get in easily

I feel that his chances are pretty good. 81-17 is pretty good for a waiver. Plus Mattis is pretty popular.

Still Tester surprises me.

[Lady Scylla]

Yes, Novus. You have explained this several times before. We get it.

Thing is few Americans do get it. So the political discourse on this is all screwed up.
We will have to see what changes they wish to make to the code though.

You're not addressing the American public here. Express a point once or twice. If you feel like you have to keep re-expressing it, in the same fashion, and people aren't giving the desired affect, then it's your point that is the problem. Meaning you should probably find a better way of making it clearer, getting a better understanding of it yourself, or approaching it at a different, more relate-able angle. I don't believe anyone here didn't understand what you meant. It just gets annoying when it gets cookie-cutter and posted over, and over again.

[Novus America]

Thing is few Americans do get it. So the political discourse on this is all screwed up.
We will have to see what changes they wish to make to the code though.

You're not addressing the American public here. Express a point once or twice. If you feel like you have to keep re-expressing it, in the same fashion, and people aren't giving the desired affect, then it's your point that is the problem. Meaning you should probably find a better way of making it clearer, getting a better understanding of it yourself, or approaching it at a different, more relate-able angle. I don't believe anyone here didn't understand what you meant. It just gets annoying when it gets cookie-cutter and posted over, and over again.

Fair enough.
Though generally bashing the same point over and over again seems the only way to get it through. But yes this is not a political campaign. If it was I would have to say the same thing hundreds more times.

[The East Marches]

Thing is few Americans do get it. So the political discourse on this is all screwed up.
We will have to see what changes they wish to make to the code though.

You're not addressing the American public here. Express a point once or twice. If you feel like you have to keep re-expressing it, in the same fashion, and people aren't giving the desired affect, then it's your point that is the problem. Meaning you should probably find a better way of making it clearer, getting a better understanding of it yourself, or approaching it at a different, more relate-able angle. I don't believe anyone here didn't understand what you meant. It just gets annoying when it gets cookie-cutter and posted over, and over again.

I disagree, I think Novus method of communication is very effective for reaching the vast majority of people. Also consider that some people do not read his posts. He is broadcasting his message effectively and efficiently :^)

[Lady Scylla]

A lot of those democrat like the guy. But they did say that he won't get in easily

I feel that his chances are pretty good. 81-17 is pretty good for a waiver. Plus Mattis is pretty popular.

Still Tester surprises me.

The issue is that, despite that people may like him, he is still military (retired) or not. Just from what I've seen, if I'm to assume he was being genuine and not bullshitting anybody, I like him, but I don't want him as Secretary of Defence. Once he crosses that line, he cannot go back. I'm not comfortable with a military official heading a civilian post designed to oversee the military and advise the President. If we were a Martial Republic, sure. But we're not, civilian oversight and a distinction of the line is important.

[Arlenton]

I feel that his chances are pretty good. 81-17 is pretty good for a waiver. Plus Mattis is pretty popular.

Still Tester surprises me.

The issue is that, despite that people may like him, he is still military (retired) or not. Just from what I've seen, if I'm to assume he was being genuine and not bullshitting anybody, I like him, but I don't want him as Secretary of Defence. Once he crosses that line, he cannot go back. I'm not comfortable with a military official heading a civilian post designed to oversee the military and advise the President. If we were a Martial Republic, sure. But we're not, civilian oversight and a distinction of the line is important.

Understandable.

I personally don't mind military officers taking civilian roles before the 7-year wait is up. Though I trust most military generals more than about anyone else in government.

Especially after the Obama administration.

[Thermodolia]

A lot of those democrat like the guy. But they did say that he won't get in easily

I feel that his chances are pretty good. 81-17 is pretty good for a waiver. Plus Mattis is pretty popular.

Still Tester surprises me.

He's probably just giving him grief because Trump and that R after his name

[Arlenton]

I feel that his chances are pretty good. 81-17 is pretty good for a waiver. Plus Mattis is pretty popular.

Still Tester surprises me.

He's probably just giving him grief because Trump and that R after his name

Wait what? Tester is a Democrat.

[Thermodolia]

He's probably just giving him grief because Trump and that R after his name

Wait what?

Tester most likely voted against it because Mattis is a republican and because of Trump.
I was talking about Mattis having an R after his name not Tester. I really shouldn't NSG and drink

[Farnhamia]

He's probably just giving him grief because Trump and that R after his name

Wait what? Tester is a Democrat.

But his name ends in R ...

[Lady Scylla]

The issue is that, despite that people may like him, he is still military (retired) or not. Just from what I've seen, if I'm to assume he was being genuine and not bullshitting anybody, I like him, but I don't want him as Secretary of Defence. Once he crosses that line, he cannot go back. I'm not comfortable with a military official heading a civilian post designed to oversee the military and advise the President. If we were a Martial Republic, sure. But we're not, civilian oversight and a distinction of the line is important.

Understandable.

I personally don't mind military officers taking civilian roles before the 7-year wait is up. Though I trust most military generals more than about anyone else in government.

Especially after the Obama administration.

I've a lot of faith in military tradition, funnily enough. Politically, I consider myself a martialist, or stratocrat if you'd prefer. Despite that, in our current framework for government, we're meant to have civilian oversight. While I may have my faith in the military, I'm aware that there exist those who would likely abuse their post. I'm not saying Mattis is this way, but when a military official crosses the line into politics, he becomes a politician. I immediately must not trust him, nor what he says. I must constantly scrutinize, criticise, and be sceptical of everything he says and does. This is a problem because he has very deeply ingrained respect from soldiers, and has been given the monikers of "Warrior Monk" or "Mad Dog". You put absolute trust and faith behind your SO not to get you killed, and to take care of you -- this is lost if they do what is likely to happen now.

[Arlenton]

Wait what?

Tester most likely voted against it because Mattis is a republican and because of Trump.

I guess but, given the popularity of Mattis, the fact that many Democrats voted to waiver Mattis, and the fact that Tetser is a moderate Democrat in a red state who is about to run for re-election in a midterm, this just seems odd.

[Thermodolia]

Tester most likely voted against it because Mattis is a republican and because of Trump.

I guess but, given the popularity of Mattis, the fact that many Democrats voted to waiver Mattis, and the fact that Tetser is a moderate Democrat in a red state who is about to run for re-election in a midterm, this just seems odd.

Or he could have been not present and some other democrat voted for him

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Calling for death on twitter.

I'm happy to be in Canada. Away from all this noise.

Then you should enjoy the fact that one of the guys on my TS that's a massive Trump supporter and buys into the whole pizzagate bullshit is actually a Canadian.

Oh fuck.

Let me guess, Alberta?

The only Liberal there I know runs a youtube channel called ProtonJon.

[Lady Scylla]

Then you should enjoy the fact that one of the guys on my TS that's a massive Trump supporter and buys into the whole pizzagate bullshit is actually a Canadian.

Oh fuck.

Let me guess, Alberta?

The only Liberal there I know runs a youtube channel called ProtonJon.

He's from BC actually.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Oh fuck.

Let me guess, Alberta?

The only Liberal there I know runs a youtube channel called ProtonJon.

He's from BC actually.

BC?

Weird, that place is the NDP stronghold.

[The Lone Alliance]

"Don't get sick, and if you do die quickly."

You've said that more than once. It's not funny or constructive.

It's actually a quote though.

[Lady Scylla]

He's from BC actually.

BC?

Weird, that place is the NDP stronghold.

He didn't get the memo. He actually got his twitter suspended here a week or so ago. Hates Trudeau and calls him a commie pedo. (Keep in mind, this guy is in his 40s)

[Geilinor]

He's from BC actually.

BC?

Weird, that place is the NDP stronghold.

Not really, the seat count is generally close to evenly split.

[Romalae]

He's from BC actually.

BC?

Weird, that place is the NDP stronghold.

I mean, there are still conservatives in Washington DC and liberals in the middle of rural Wyoming. A tiny amount and encompassed by people who lean the opposite way, but they're there nonetheless.

i think

[Lady Scylla]

BC?

Weird, that place is the NDP stronghold.

I mean, there are still conservatives in Washington DC and liberals in the middle of rural Wyoming. A tiny amount and encompassed by people who lean the opposite way, but they're there nonetheless.

i think

Austin is practically nothing but Liberal, and yet houses the State's Republican government.