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Do You Approve Of The Manner In Which Trump And His Team Are Handling The Transition?

Yes, absolutely
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28%
Generally yes, but with some reservations that I'll post in the thread.
84
11%
Not sure/Neutral
98
13%
Generally no, but with some hopeful signs that I'll post in the thread
49
6%
Not at all
320
42%
 
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:11 pm

Patridam wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:We make about $4800/mo. Avoid. Doctors. At. All. Cost.


We? How many overall in the family?

My family of 3 made/makes a little bit short of $20,000 per year. That's less than $1700/mo.


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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:12 pm

Farnhamia wrote:*watches in fascination*


EVERY time I see your name I am nervous you're going to hit us with the banhammer! :p :hug:

Ahem, to not derail this thread into a casual chat, yea, I think Trump's right when he says that an alternative to ACA should appear concurrently in the congress floor along with a repeal of it as well.

"Repeal and delay" like McConnell was hoping, just would do more harm than good.
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Postby Patridam » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:13 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Patridam wrote:
We? How many overall in the family?

My family of 3 made/makes a little bit short of $20,000 per year. That's less than $1700/mo.


5


So you're approximately 1.7 times richer less poor than me. Fun.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:13 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
My funnest experience this last year was stepping on a toothpick that went through the nerve cluster and join of my big toe. Waited a good two days before I finally went to the doctor. Tried to pull it out, but there was no way in hell.


Ouch, and I thought toothpicks didn't make injuries.

Turns out I was wrong.


They do when the little bastards are stuck in the carpet and you step on them. I heated a pocket knife and doused it in alcohol to try and get it, yeah, that wasn't happening. Tried using tweezers and an exacto knife, nope. By that point, I may as well, so I scheduled an appointment, paid what I could on a previous bill so they'd see me, and voila. Even the doctor had a hard time trying to pull it out, she finally just yanked on it.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:14 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:*watches in fascination*


"Come and get your tickets now for the war of the poors! Find out which of these faceless internet personalities has the worse life and has the least dolla dollas!"


:rofl:

Sorry if my posts came across that way, I didn't intend them to.

I guess you could say I come from a well-established middle class family just by looking at income, given my dad earns over 100k, but we used to be a 8 people household, so while we weren't exactly poor, we have a lot of habits from trying to stretch pennies.
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Postby Patridam » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:15 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:*watches in fascination*


EVERY time I see your name I am nervous you're going to hit us with the banhammer! :p :hug:

Ahem, to not derail this thread into a casual chat, yea, I think Trump's right when he says that an alternative to ACA should appear concurrently in the congress floor along with a repeal of it as well.

"Repeal and delay" like McConnell was hoping, just would do more harm than good.


The big thing with that is that a repeal only takes 50 votes but to replace it takes 60 votes. There aren't 60 Republicans in the senate, and even if there were we are far from unanimous in what the replacement for Obamacare should even look like.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:16 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Ouch, and I thought toothpicks didn't make injuries.

Turns out I was wrong.


They do when the little bastards are stuck in the carpet and you step on them. I heated a pocket knife and doused it in alcohol to try and get it, yeah, that wasn't happening. Tried using tweezers and an exacto knife, nope. By that point, I may as well, so I scheduled an appointment, paid what I could on a previous bill so they'd see me, and voila. Even the doctor had a hard time trying to pull it out, she finally just yanked on it.


I guess there was no other option than to do that. Did she at least give you local anesthetics?
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"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:16 pm

Patridam wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
5


So you're approximately 1.7 times richer less poor than me. Fun.


Wanna see the house I grew up in?

Tada!

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When I say I grew up poor, I grew up poor.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:16 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
They do when the little bastards are stuck in the carpet and you step on them. I heated a pocket knife and doused it in alcohol to try and get it, yeah, that wasn't happening. Tried using tweezers and an exacto knife, nope. By that point, I may as well, so I scheduled an appointment, paid what I could on a previous bill so they'd see me, and voila. Even the doctor had a hard time trying to pull it out, she finally just yanked on it.


I guess there was no other option than to do that. Did she at least give you local anesthetics?


Yeah. They actually let me keep the toothpick too. :lol2:

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:17 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Patridam wrote:
So you're approximately 1.7 times richer less poor than me. Fun.


Wanna see the house I grew up in?

Tada!

Image


When I say I grew up poor, I grew up poor.

Isn't that Michael Myers' house?
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:18 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:*watches in fascination*


EVERY time I see your name I am nervous you're going to hit us with the banhammer! :p :hug:

Ahem, to not derail this thread into a casual chat, yea, I think Trump's right when he says that an alternative to ACA should appear concurrently in the congress floor along with a repeal of it as well.

"Repeal and delay" like McConnell was hoping, just would do more harm than good.


I doubt that's their plan, though, given how the first vote went.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:18 pm

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The big thing with that is that a repeal only takes 50 votes but to replace it takes 60 votes. There aren't 60 Republicans in the senate, and even if there were we are far from unanimous in what the replacement for Obamacare should even look like.


Which is, honestly, the bigger problem.

I feel McConnell's faction in DC are trying to rush Obamacare out without regard of consequences towards the already insured.

I'd be much less concerned about it if McConnell had a viable replacement bill that a majority of congress republicans agreed with.
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:18 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Wanna see the house I grew up in?

Tada!

Image


When I say I grew up poor, I grew up poor.

Isn't that Michael Myers' house?


Well, we were surrounded by cornfields. :lol2:

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:19 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Patridam wrote:
The big thing with that is that a repeal only takes 50 votes but to replace it takes 60 votes. There aren't 60 Republicans in the senate, and even if there were we are far from unanimous in what the replacement for Obamacare should even look like.


Which is, honestly, the bigger problem.

I feel McConnell's faction in DC are trying to rush Obamacare out without regard of consequences towards the already insured.

I'd be much less concerned about it if McConnell had a viable replacement bill that a majority of congress republicans agreed with.

They seem intent on reverting back to "Don't get sick, and if you do die quickly".
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:20 pm

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I doubt that's their plan, though, given how the first vote went.


Well, their vote pretty much has given them a few weeks to rush a framework before congress.

I am not sure they can do in a few weeks what they haven't been able to do in several years since the ACA passed.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:22 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
I doubt that's their plan, though, given how the first vote went.


Well, their vote pretty much has given them a few weeks to rush a framework before congress.

I am not sure they can do in a few weeks what they haven't been able to do in several years since the ACA passed.


They wouldn't even hear arguments from the Dems on the first vote.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:23 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
I doubt that's their plan, though, given how the first vote went.


Well, their vote pretty much has given them a few weeks to rush a framework before congress.

I am not sure they can do in a few weeks what they haven't been able to do in several years since the ACA passed.

They were so focused on banishing the Icky-Poo Obama Cooties also known as the ACA they didn't even bother thinking up of a replacement plan. Hence "Don't get sick, and if you do die quickly."
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:23 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Well, their vote pretty much has given them a few weeks to rush a framework before congress.

I am not sure they can do in a few weeks what they haven't been able to do in several years since the ACA passed.


They wouldn't even hear arguments from the Dems on the first vote.


I mean, I hope they prove me wrong, but apparently if they are this bullheaded I wouldn't be surprised if this all flops back in McConnell's face as nothing but a stunt and other Republicans end up abandoning him.
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"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby Patridam » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:24 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Patridam wrote:
So you're approximately 1.7 times richer less poor than me. Fun.


Wanna see the house I grew up in?

Tada!

Image


When I say I grew up poor, I grew up poor.


"ROUND TWO OF THE WAR OF THE POORS! FIGHT!"

Image


I don't throw the term poor around loosely.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:24 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
They wouldn't even hear arguments from the Dems on the first vote.


I mean, I hope they prove me wrong, but apparently if they are this bullheaded I wouldn't be surprised if this all flops back in McConnell's face as nothing but a stunt and other Republicans end up abandoning him.

Mitch got cocky successfully cockblocking Garland's nomination. Wouldn't surprise me.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:24 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Patridam wrote:
The big thing with that is that a repeal only takes 50 votes but to replace it takes 60 votes. There aren't 60 Republicans in the senate, and even if there were we are far from unanimous in what the replacement for Obamacare should even look like.


Which is, honestly, the bigger problem.

I feel McConnell's faction in DC are trying to rush Obamacare out without regard of consequences towards the already insured.

I'd be much less concerned about it if McConnell had a viable replacement bill that a majority of congress republicans agreed with.

Interesting enough rank and file House republicans won't repeal unless there is an immediate replacement
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:25 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
They wouldn't even hear arguments from the Dems on the first vote.


I mean, I hope they prove me wrong, but apparently if they are this bullheaded I wouldn't be surprised if this all flops back in McConnell's face as nothing but a stunt and other Republicans end up abandoning him.


I'm wagering the latter at this point.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:26 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Which is, honestly, the bigger problem.

I feel McConnell's faction in DC are trying to rush Obamacare out without regard of consequences towards the already insured.

I'd be much less concerned about it if McConnell had a viable replacement bill that a majority of congress republicans agreed with.

Interesting enough rank and file House republicans won't repeal unless there is an immediate replacement

They know leaving their base strung out to die is a bad idea.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:27 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Interesting enough rank and file House republicans won't repeal unless there is an immediate replacement

They know leaving their base strung out to die is a bad idea.

Only because it would cost them votes
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:They know leaving their base strung out to die is a bad idea.

Only because it would cost them votes

They realized it wasn't just Democratic voters who were going to die off without the ACA.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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