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Do You Approve Of The Manner In Which Trump And His Team Are Handling The Transition?

Yes, absolutely
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28%
Generally yes, but with some reservations that I'll post in the thread.
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11%
Not sure/Neutral
98
13%
Generally no, but with some hopeful signs that I'll post in the thread
49
6%
Not at all
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Postby Zapato » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:27 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
It was the Obama administration that oversaw the rise of this phenomena, and did shit like the dear colleague letter, race-baiting over BLM etc.
I think he's a cultural marxist of the frankfurt kind, and abused his office to try and push it on the public.

The legalization of propaganda is one way he did so.

We'll see if when Trump takes office and all the SJW crap dies off within a year or so. Then we'll know never to elect a Democrat like him again.

Because cultural Marxists love private health insurance mandates and free trade deals.

It's what Marx dreamt of.


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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:27 pm

Patridam wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:It was the Obama administration that oversaw the rise of this phenomena, and did shit like the dear colleague letter, race-baiting over BLM etc.
I think he's a cultural marxist of the frankfurt kind, and abused his office to try and push it on the public.

The legalization of propaganda is one way he did so.

We'll see if when Trump takes office and all the SJW crap dies off within a year or so. Then we'll know never to elect a Democrat like him again.


The SJW's won't go down without a fight. You might think that they'd take the election as a sign that they're loathed because their terrible, but no, they doubled down with muh patriarchy/systemic oppression. They're going to keep up their autistic screeching until the bitter end.

Is it Godzilla? Is it King Kong? Is it Galactus, the Devourer? No, it is the gigantic straw-man you just created!

Also, systemic oppression and patriarchal status-quo really are problems in society that need addressing.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:28 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
It was the Obama administration that oversaw the rise of this phenomena, and did shit like the dear colleague letter, race-baiting over BLM etc.

BLM? You mean the one that manages land or the one that does terrorism?

TIL wanting police to not gun down African-Americans willy-nilly like zombies is TERRORISM.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:29 pm

Zapato wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:Because cultural Marxists love private health insurance mandates and free trade deals.

It's what Marx dreamt of.

Alternatively, what he had nightmares about. But hey, what are dreams but flowery nightmares?
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Postby Patridam » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:30 pm

Gauthier wrote:Opinion echoing? Naaah...


Can't let a man have one person agree with him, can you? No, you prefer to be part of the 12 in the 12-on-1 gangbang, and it messes up the narrative if it's 12 on 2 instead.

Beautiful ableism by the way.


You aren't familiar with the "autistic screeching" meme, are you?

EDIT: Wrong Link, I was posting on the car thread same time as this.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:30 pm

Patridam wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Hey, if conflict-of-interest laws don't apply to the President-Elect...


I really wish people would stop making opinion-echo statements at questions very clearly directed at me. This is the fifth time it's happened in this thread in just the past few days.

That tends to be Gauthier's existence.
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Crockerland
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Postby Crockerland » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:30 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Crockerland wrote:BLM? You mean the one that manages land or the one that does terrorism?

TIL wanting police to not gun down African-Americans willy-nilly like zombies is TERRORISM.

If 90% of the African-Americans in question were attempting to murder the people that shot them or gave them clear reason to believe they were going to attempt to do so then yes, you are correct.
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Postby Patridam » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:31 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Also, systemic oppression and patriarchal status-quo really are problems in society that need addressing.


Haha, nope. Actually existing is part of the prerequisite for something to be a problem.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:32 pm

Crockerland wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
More representative democracy by design.

Baseless assertions.
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:It's still has NDP/ Conservative members of parliament.

Sentence fail. If by "It's" you meant to type "Canada", are you trying to say that Canada's parliament has members of opposition parties, and the US doesn't? Because that's obviously wrong.
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Also, Obama won with won with 51.1%.

And Bush won with 47.9%
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Your argument doesn't hold water.

Actually it does, and at least I made one, rather than asserting nonsense.


It's more representative because each member won there constituency and therefore the house of commons looks like what the people want it to be.

TL;DR I was saying that the system is not winner take all.

Constituencies being smaller and tighter than Electoral college.
Obama again won with 52.9% of pop vote.

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Uiiop » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:33 pm

Patridam wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Opinion echoing? Naaah...


Can't let a man have one person agree with him, can you? No, you prefer to be part of the 12 in the 12-on-1 gangbang, and it messes up the narrative if it's 12 on 2 instead.

Beautiful ableism by the way.


You aren't familiar with the "autistic screeching" meme, are you?

You may have the wrong link but you're going to have to explain to me on how the context here makes it not Ableist.
"But they sound that dumb." Isn't a good response since autism /=/ dumb.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:34 pm

Patridam wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Also, systemic oppression and patriarchal status-quo really are problems in society that need addressing.


Haha, nope. Actually existing is part of the prerequisite for something to be a problem.

Yes, it is. Wage gaps, for example. Sexual assaults still exist. Job opportunities are far better for white men such as myself than for black men, white women, or black women. This is simple statistics. But I guess you're not the one facing racism, are you?
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:35 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Patridam wrote:
Haha, nope. Actually existing is part of the prerequisite for something to be a problem.

Yes, it is. Wage gaps, for example. Sexual assaults still exist. Job opportunities are far better for white men such as myself than for black men, white women, or black women. This is simple statistics. But I guess you're not the one facing racism, are you?

Not that you're necessary wrong on all of them but you should back up your stats.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:36 pm

Patridam wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Opinion echoing? Naaah...


Can't let a man have one person agree with him, can you? No, you prefer to be part of the 12 in the 12-on-1 gangbang, and it messes up the narrative if it's 12 on 2 instead.

Juust pointing out the hypocrisy of ranting about me opinion-echoing only to turn around and echo one yourself not too many posts later.

Beautiful ableism by the way.


You aren't familiar with the "autistic screeching" meme, are you?

EDIT: Wrong Link, I was posting on the car thread same time as this.

A meme. How shocking.
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The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:37 pm

Corrian wrote:
Patridam wrote:
I really wish people would stop making opinion-echo statements at questions very clearly directed at me. This is the fifth time it's happened in this thread in just the past few days.

That tends to be Gauthier's existence.

But I'm the opinion echoer. *nod*
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Patridam » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:37 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Patridam wrote:
Can't let a man have one person agree with him, can you? No, you prefer to be part of the 12 in the 12-on-1 gangbang, and it messes up the narrative if it's 12 on 2 instead.



You aren't familiar with the "autistic screeching" meme, are you?

You may have the wrong link but you're going to have to explain to me on how the context here makes it not Ableist.
"But they sound that dumb." Isn't a good response since autism /=/ dumb.


I fixed the link.

But I don't really care if you or anyone else randomly call me racist/sexist/ableist/misogynist/islamaphobe/alt-right/nazi or whatever, because I've seen them all used to discredit people and they've lost any sense of meaning, impact, or insult to me.
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:39 pm

Patridam wrote:
Uiiop wrote:You may have the wrong link but you're going to have to explain to me on how the context here makes it not Ableist.
"But they sound that dumb." Isn't a good response since autism /=/ dumb.


I fixed the link.

But I don't really care if you or anyone else randomly call me racist/sexist/ableist/misogynist/islamaphobe/alt-right/nazi or whatever, because I've seen them all used to discredit people and they've lost any sense of impact or insult to me.

So because a label has been used stupidly clearly means all uses of the label can be completely dismissed without any thinking on your part.
Wow....such effort. That's clearly a rational tact to take.
And i hardly call someone associating a condition i have with inherent irrational and stupidity as a random thing to call out on.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:39 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Corrian wrote:That tends to be Gauthier's existence.

But I'm the opinion echoer. *nod*


Opinion Echo Man, awayyyy.
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:41 pm

Ebliania wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I'd like off Mr.Bones Wild Ride now. Do you know where the stop is?

Take off your seat belt.


You win sensible chuckle of the day, I see what you did there.
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:43 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Patridam wrote:
The SJW's won't go down without a fight. You might think that they'd take the election as a sign that they're loathed because their terrible, but no, they doubled down with muh patriarchy/systemic oppression. They're going to keep up their autistic screeching until the bitter end.

Opinion echoing? Naaah...

Beautiful ableism by the way.


Gauthier my friend, must we bring up your "HURR HURR HURR" incident? It is impolite to call somebody out a topic like that while being guilty of it yourself :^)

Making fun of developmentally disabled as a joke isn't funny : (
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Patridam » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:45 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Wage gaps, for example.


I study mechanical engineering, one of the highest paid fields in the country, and for good reason, because it is difficult. There are 57 males in my grade and major, but only 2 females. Meanwhile, across the quad, in the Gender Studies department, there are 32 females and 1 male in the same grade. There is the earnings gap. Not wrought by sexism, but by personal choice.

Sexual assaults still exist. But I guess you're not the one facing racism, are you?


DECODING: "This poster is probably a white male, and so that means his position is less valid!"

And I do face racism. Everyone does. If anything, anti white racism is only getting worse as anti-black racism disappears.
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Postby Hittanryan » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:46 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Patridam wrote:
Haha, nope. Actually existing is part of the prerequisite for something to be a problem.

Yes, it is. Wage gaps, for example. Sexual assaults still exist. Job opportunities are far better for white men such as myself than for black men, white women, or black women. This is simple statistics. But I guess you're not the one facing racism, are you?

As a lifelong liberal, this line of attack is not working. It failed us in 2016 and we will need to get away from identity politics to win again. Winning is important, lest that con artist and his party saddle our country with shitty economic and foreign policies for 8 years instead of 4.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:47 pm

Patridam wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Wage gaps, for example.


I study mechanical engineering, one of the highest paid fields in the country, and for good reason, because it is difficult. There are 57 males in my grade and major, but only 2 females. Meanwhile, across the quad, in the Gender Studies department, there are 32 females and 1 male in the same grade. There is the earnings gap. Not wrought by sexism, but by personal choice.

Sexual assaults still exist. But I guess you're not the one facing racism, are you?


DECODING: "This poster is probably a white male, and so that means his position is less valid!"

And I do face racism. Everyone does. If anything, anti white racism is only getting worse as anti-black racism disappears.


Tbf, the reasons for the gender gap in STEM are still not fully understood, and far too complicated to boil down to "gurls dont engineer". It's a bit disingenuous to assert that the gender gap exists because of choice.
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:48 pm

Patridam wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Wage gaps, for example.


I study mechanical engineering, one of the highest paid fields in the country, and for good reason, because it is difficult. There are 57 males in my grade and major, but only 2 females. Meanwhile, across the quad, in the Gender Studies department, there are 32 females and 1 male in the same grade. There is the earnings gap. Not wrought by sexism, but by personal choice.

Sexual assaults still exist. But I guess you're not the one facing racism, are you?


DECODING: "This poster is probably a white male, and so that means his position is less valid!"

And I do face racism. Everyone does. If anything, anti white racism is only getting worse as anti-black racism disappears.

Well Commonwealth says he's a white male so your decoding is stupid. He's saying that you don't see further than what you have to deal with in your own life.
Granted he could have worded it better.
Also anecdotal is not valid evidence.
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Postby Balkenreich » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:48 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Patridam wrote:
Haha, nope. Actually existing is part of the prerequisite for something to be a problem.

Yes, it is. Wage gaps, for example. Sexual assaults still exist. Job opportunities are far better for white men such as myself than for black men, white women, or black women. This is simple statistics. But I guess you're not the one facing racism, are you?


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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:48 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Yes, it is. Wage gaps, for example. Sexual assaults still exist. Job opportunities are far better for white men such as myself than for black men, white women, or black women. This is simple statistics. But I guess you're not the one facing racism, are you?

As a lifelong liberal, this line of attack is not working. It failed us in 2016 and we will need to get away from identity politics to win again. Winning is important, lest that con artist and his party saddle our country with shitty economic and foreign policies for 8 years instead of 4.


The "I guess you're not the one facing racism" line is unlikely to win hearts or minds, at a stab. Solidifying identities in opposition to a social cause has rarely borne fruit.
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