Trump MAGAthread II: Donald and Mike go to the White House

[The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster]

You can debate percentages all you want, but it did help Trump more because, unlike Obama, he would have lost without the electoral college.

*DECODING* "You can use your fancy facts and figures and logical analysis, but I know in my liberal heart that the electoral college is ebul because it helped Trump who is ebul. I am now going to decry the electoral college even though both candidates acknowledged it and ran their campaigns relying on it, until such a time when it helps a candidate I do like, and then I will deny that I ever had a problem with it."

...that's...I...the hell are you smoking???

OBAMA WOULD HAVE WON ANYWAY. THE TWO SITUATIONS ARE DIFFERENT.

[Farnhamia]

In terms of winning or losing, though, it didn't help him.

Okay, so you're moving your goalposts to the other side of the field I see.

The electoral college helped Democrat Grover Cleveland win in 1888 even though Republican Benjamin Harrison won the popular vote.

Other way around. Cleveland won the popular vote, Harrison the EC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... tion,_1888

[Patridam]

...that's...I...the hell are you smoking???

I don't smoke. My hippie parents and high school friends have offered to let me partake in the devil's lettuce, but I chose the noble and legal addiction: alcoholism.

[The Portland Territory]

As far as the whole thing with the EC helping the Dems more, I think it is true. They only need to win a handful of states to win the presidency, and most of which always go solid blue. It's hard for a Republican to win the presidency nowadays.

Now, even after Trump's victory because of the Electoral College, I still believe it should be replaced with a two-round system, the first round being purely popular vote and second being a proportional version of the EC

[The Portland Territory]

Okay, so you're moving your goalposts to the other side of the field I see.

The electoral college helped Democrat Grover Cleveland win in 1888 even though Republican Benjamin Harrison won the popular vote.

Other way around. Cleveland won the popular vote, Harrison the EC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... tion,_1888

Someone mustve changed the article a bit.......

Perhaps....... Russia?

[Lady Scylla]

Who?

Perfect.

After looking him up, reading about his policies and past positions. Also watching his input during the Sessions' hearing. If he ran, I'd probably vote for him. I like him.

[The Grene Knyght]

Well firstly it didn't help Obama as much as it helped trump, because the system doesn't work proportionately to how much they won by.
Secondly, you seem to be implying I like Obama...
I've always had a problem with how needlessly complex the US's presidential elections are in comparison with my own country's, for as long as I've been aware that such a system was in place.

I was always a fan of the Northern Irish system myself :^)

an old woman with a shiny hat will be none to pleased to discover that the northerners have been having presidential elections behind her back if what this post implies is true

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So, deporting people suspected of crime.

Not charged, not convicted, suspected.
Wat.

Out of curiosity, when did the electoral college vote help the Dems?

You don't need to look too far, just to the 2012 election. Obama won 51% to 47%, but he won 332 to 206 by the electoral college. Proportionally, that would equate to a 62% to 38% vote for Obama.

For 2016 the same numbers are 46% vs 48% (Trump vs Hillary) popular vote, and 57% vs 43% electoral vote. The difference between the electoral college and the popular vote was the same advantage for both Trump and Obama, at 11%, while the difference disadvantaging Romney was 4 percent more than the one against Hillary, at 9% versus 5%.

The Electoral college helped Trump no more than it helped Obama in 2012.

Except that Obama still won 51% of Pop vote.

Trump got a 2% pop vote boost.

[Lady Scylla]

So, deporting people suspected of crime.

Not charged, not convicted, suspected.
Wat.

Huh?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So, deporting people suspected of crime.

Not charged, not convicted, suspected.
Wat.

Huh?

It's what Trump wants.

[The East Marches]

I was always a fan of the Northern Irish system myself :^)

an old woman with a shiny hat will be none to pleased to discover that the northerners have been having presidential elections behind her back if what this post implies is true

Please, we all know that the DUP's Arlene Foster has declared herself Lord Protector of Norn Iron and will refuse to give up her throne of bayonets to the weak woman in England.

[Lady Scylla]

Huh?

It's what Trump wants.

Watching something?

[Community Values]

Huh?

It's what Trump wants.

I see. And we know that he wants this based on what sources?

Did he say it in the press conference?

[Washington Resistance Army]

It's what Trump wants.

I see. And we know that he wants this based on what sources?

Did he say it in the press conference?

Na, he was too busy talking about Fake News®

[Patridam]

As far as the whole thing with the EC helping the Dems more, I think it is true. They only need to win a handful of states to win the presidency, and most of which always go solid blue. It's hard for a Republican to win the presidency nowadays.

Now, even after Trump's victory because of the Electoral College, I still believe it should be replaced with a two-round system, the first round being purely popular vote and second being a proportional version of the EC

Never mind the fact that Democratic news agencies were defending the electoral college when their candidate won but denigrating it as a racist relic of slavery when the other guy won.

[The Portland Territory]

As far as the whole thing with the EC helping the Dems more, I think it is true. They only need to win a handful of states to win the presidency, and most of which always go solid blue. It's hard for a Republican to win the presidency nowadays.

Now, even after Trump's victory because of the Electoral College, I still believe it should be replaced with a two-round system, the first round being purely popular vote and second being a proportional version of the EC

Never mind the fact that Democratic news agencies were defending the electoral college when their candidate won but denigrating it as a racist relic of slavery when the other guy won.

This is too beautiful, I love the Huffington Compost

[Farnhamia]

It's what Trump wants.

I see. And we know that he wants this based on what sources?

Did he say it in the press conference?

He did make a number of speeches during the campaign outlining what he wants and I believe there was some talk of deporting people who are here illegally. Of course, he may have changed his mind.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It's what Trump wants.

I see. And we know that he wants this based on what sources?

Did he say it in the press conference?

I think it was C-span or fox news.

[The Black Forrest]

As far as the whole thing with the EC helping the Dems more, I think it is true. They only need to win a handful of states to win the presidency, and most of which always go solid blue. It's hard for a Republican to win the presidency nowadays.

Now, even after Trump's victory because of the Electoral College, I still believe it should be replaced with a two-round system, the first round being purely popular vote and second being a proportional version of the EC

Never mind the fact that Democratic news agencies were defending the electoral college when their candidate won but denigrating it as a racist relic of slavery when the other guy won.

Are you telling us Carl is wearing a Leon mask?

[The Portland Territory]

Never mind the fact that Democratic news agencies were defending the electoral college when their candidate won but denigrating it as a racist relic of slavery when the other guy won.

Are you telling us Carl is wearing a Leon mask?

I know it was in the blog section, written by different people, but I still find it funny that it was on the same site, of course it being Huffington

[Wallenburg]

I am getting really sick of that eternally half-a**ed argument.Firstly, the will of the people is also represented by a Republican majority in both houses of congress.

Secondly, the popular vote in the presidential election is a goddamn meaningless statistic, because both candidates campaigned to win the electoral college vote, not the popular vote. If the campaigns had been run for the popular vote, Trump wouldn't have had eleven million rallies in Pennsylvania and would have had some in California.

If y'all Democrats hate the popular vote so much and find it so misrepresentative of the people, why did you try to get it changed when it was helping you? It's just something for you to whine about to help feed your victim complexes and patriarchy/white conspiracy theories.

Out of curiosity, when did the electoral college vote help the Dems?

Three miles past Neverland, when Fluttershy became president-for-life of Petoria.

[Patridam]

Never mind the fact that Democratic news agencies were defending the electoral college when their candidate won but denigrating it as a racist relic of slavery when the other guy won.

Are you telling us Carl is wearing a Leon mask?

Huffington post puts its op ed "blog" posts in all of its emails and lists it among all of its supposedly news articles with no distinguishing separators. The HuffPost and its twin sister, BuzzFeed, are the most abhorrent excuses for journalism that the world has ever seen.

[The Black Forrest]

Are you telling us Carl is wearing a Leon mask?

I know it was in the blog section, written by different people, but I still find it funny that it was on the same site, of course it being Huffington

I am failing to see the problem. The blog is basically an opinion page. Now if it was the same guy? That would be a good argument.

[Galactic Assembly of Free Planets]

Out of curiosity, when did the electoral college vote help the Dems?

Three miles past Neverland, when Fluttershy became president-for-life of Petoria.

The first EC victory not won with a PV majority inspired the birth of our Party, actually.

[The Black Forrest]

Are you telling us Carl is wearing a Leon mask?

Huffington post puts its op ed "blog" posts in all of its emails and lists it among all of its supposedly news articles with no distinguishing separators. The HuffPost and its twin sister, BuzzFeed, are the most abhorrent excuses for journalism that the world has ever seen.

But of course Fox News or the average con blog is the light of truth.