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Do You Approve Of The Manner In Which Trump And His Team Are Handling The Transition?

Yes, absolutely
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28%
Generally yes, but with some reservations that I'll post in the thread.
84
11%
Not sure/Neutral
98
13%
Generally no, but with some hopeful signs that I'll post in the thread
49
6%
Not at all
320
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Total votes : 770

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Postby Arlenton » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:26 pm

Gauthier wrote:Kim Jong-Un would be jealous of the devotion Trump is getting right now.

Dictators tend to be hated. Leaders tend to be admired.

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:26 pm

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Hittanryan wrote:Trump should want this Russia matter cleared up. The only way an investigation poses a threat to Trump is if there's something to the Russia connection.

This would've been nice to hear for consistency's sake eight years ago.
'Obama should want this birtherism matter cleared up...'

Well, I mean, I guess we did hear it. Just from ideologically opposite conspiratorial kooks.

How isn't that at all anywhere near the same? One has backing from intelligence officials and is about to be investigated by a republican congress, and the other is born out of unsubstantiated racist lies. There wasn't a shred of evidence to support birtherism, but the Russia connections have at least some credibility.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:26 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Kim Jong-Un would be jealous of the devotion Trump is getting right now.

Dictators tend to be hated. Leaders tend to be admired.

Sure.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:26 pm

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Corrian wrote:I'm not referring to just that, but the whole state of the world in general right now.


Not really. It looks a lot more like the proxy wars during the cold war.

This^ I'm going with the idea that Trump is going to end up like Carter
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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

They are talking not about polling but about the vote count on election night


He said why would the votes shift 10 points in PA.

I pointed out the state was close to begin with.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:27 pm

Corrian wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:We go to war because we're looking for someone to blame for a lost election. Yeah that sounds like America.

I'm not referring to just that, but the whole state of the world in general right now.

Because the world is actually reverting back to the status quo of before the World Wars of every nation for itself.

The Global order is collapsing because the status quo has proved to be unsustainable and as the internal issues increase nations are turning insular because their own problems are growing to the point that they don't have time to care about the global order.

Nationalism is rising and internationalism is dying. Partly because the US, the one role that was supposed to be the stabilizing force of the status quo, spent the past 8 years stepping back.

This is the "Post American World"
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Postby Corrian » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Not really. It looks a lot more like the proxy wars during the cold war.

This^ I'm going with the idea that Trump is going to end up like Carter

Carter 2016?
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Postby Blakk Metal » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:28 pm

New Dukaine wrote:My stance on the hacking case is with the CIA. I completely think that they interfered to help trump win. How else would the vote shift 10 points in Pennsylvania at 75%?

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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:28 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Corrian wrote:I'm not referring to just that, but the whole state of the world in general right now.

Because the world is actually reverting back to the status quo of before the World Wars of every nation for itself.



Neat~
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Postby Neuwland » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:28 pm

Gauthier wrote:Kim Jong-Un would be jealous of the devotion Trump is getting right now.

Kim Jong un another ass wipe that is arrogant and will surely rot in the pits of hell.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:28 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They are talking not about polling but about the vote count on election night


He said why would the votes shift 10 points in PA.

I pointed out the state was close to begin with.

Ten points on election night with 75% of the vote in. At one point in the night Clinton was up by about 9 points or so
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Not really. It looks a lot more like the proxy wars during the cold war.

This^ I'm going with the idea that Trump is going to end up like Carter

With hopefully a Democratic Reagan leading us to 8 years of progressive glory.

So what would be Trump's equivalent of Operation Eagle Claw?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:29 pm

Corrian wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:This^ I'm going with the idea that Trump is going to end up like Carter

Carter 2016?

Pretty much
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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:29 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
He said why would the votes shift 10 points in PA.

I pointed out the state was close to begin with.

Ten points on election night with 75% of the vote in. At one point in the night Clinton was up by about 9 points or so


There's this thing of votes from certain counties being reported first.

If we go by this logic we should be investigating why Trump didn't get Virginia, when really it was red for a long time because NOVA hadn't reported.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:29 pm

Its funny watching Clinton supporters sound like the Bernie supporters in the primary.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:29 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:This^ I'm going with the idea that Trump is going to end up like Carter

With hopefully a Democratic Reagan leading us to 8 years of progressive glory.

So what would be Trump's equivalent of Operation Eagle Claw?

Trade war with China
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:29 pm

Neuwland wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Kim Jong-Un would be jealous of the devotion Trump is getting right now.

Kim Jong un another ass wipe that is arrogant and will surely rot in the pits of hell.

And he needs complete state control and propaganda to get the population worshipping him. Trump doesn't even need complete state control. As for propaganda, the internet gives it to him for free.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Neuwland » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:30 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:This^ I'm going with the idea that Trump is going to end up like Carter

With hopefully a Democratic Reagan leading us to 8 years of progressive glory.

So what would be Trump's equivalent of Operation Eagle Claw?

The battles of the apocalypse with Russia and it's filthy allies.

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Postby Uxupox » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:30 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:With hopefully a Democratic Reagan leading us to 8 years of progressive glory.

So what would be Trump's equivalent of Operation Eagle Claw?

Trade war with China


Don't think we gonna lose this one though.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:30 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:With hopefully a Democratic Reagan leading us to 8 years of progressive glory.

So what would be Trump's equivalent of Operation Eagle Claw?

Trade war with China

And maybe even a shitstorm over Taiwan.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Dushan » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:30 pm

New Dukaine wrote:My stance on the hacking case is with the CIA. I completely think that they interfered to help trump win. How else would the vote shift 10 points in Pennsylvania at 75%?


It was initial Meme Magic.

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More relevant to us, who is our Belgium?


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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:30 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:This would've been nice to hear for consistency's sake eight years ago.
'Obama should want this birtherism matter cleared up...'

Well, I mean, I guess we did hear it. Just from ideologically opposite conspiratorial kooks.

How isn't that at all anywhere near the same? One has backing from intelligence officials and is about to be investigated by a republican congress, and the other is born out of unsubstantiated racist lies. There wasn't a shred of evidence to support birtherism, but the Russia connections have at least some credibility.

Not especially, honestly, since one has backing from intelligence officials as told secondhand by an anonymous source (who is contradicted by other intelligence officials).
Such is especially not backed if by 'Russia connections' one means 'Russia hacked the election'. Which has less evidence than birtherism even, honestly, since the White House came out and said such didn't happen and nobody (including Jill Stein) has been able to locate any shred of impropriety.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:31 pm

Corrian wrote:Its funny watching Clinton supporters sound like the Bernie supporters in the primary.

Quite.
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Postby Arlenton » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:31 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
He said why would the votes shift 10 points in PA.

I pointed out the state was close to begin with.

Ten points on election night with 75% of the vote in. At one point in the night Clinton was up by about 9 points or so

Pennsylvania has a Democratic counting bias. The Philly area comes in first and then the rural west comes in. Look at Virginia as a reverse, the Republican leads at first and for the rest of the night and then the Democratic votes shoot up at the last second when the urban northern areas come in.

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Postby Neuwland » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:31 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Neuwland wrote:Kim Jong un another ass wipe that is arrogant and will surely rot in the pits of hell.

And he needs complete state control and propaganda to get the population worshipping him. Trump doesn't even need complete state control. As for propaganda, the internet gives it to him for free.

Donald Trump is a spawning of a succubus that's why.

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