Trump MAGAthread II: Donald and Mike go to the White House

[Opfornia]

The live commentary is actually providing the opportunity to examine the irrational hate for Trump in real time.

[Ifreann]

I think it's funny Trump is taking buzzfeed seriously.

Normal people ignore or shrug off allegations if they're likely to be bullshit. Trump comes off as if he's desperately hoping nobody realizes they're true.

Which raises the question: What could Trump possibly be hiding at this point? What could he think he needs to keep secret? Because so far, nothing has stuck.

Well, I guess everything has stuck, but nothing seemed to matter. I mean, I think even Trump's supporters don't deny much that's been said about Trump. So I guess it's less water off a duck's back and more filth off a pig's. It sticks. Everyone knows about it. No one cares.

Anyway, point is, after everything that has stuck to Trump and not lost him a single vote, what skeletons could Trump possibly want to keep hidden in his (presumably vast and homogeneous) closet?

[Ashmoria]

The live commentary is actually providing the opportunity to examine the irrational hate for Trump in real time.

irrational

lol

[Liriena]

The live commentary is actually providing the opportunity to examine the irrational hate for Trump in real time.

Good joke.

[Ashmoria]

Normal people ignore or shrug off allegations if they're likely to be bullshit. Trump comes off as if he's desperately hoping nobody realizes they're true.

Which raises the question: What could Trump possibly be hiding at this point? What could he think he needs to keep secret? Because so far, nothing has stuck.

Well, I guess everything has stuck, but nothing seemed to matter. I mean, I think even Trump's supporters don't deny much that's been said about Trump. So I guess it's less water off a duck's back and more filth off a pig's. It sticks. Everyone knows about it. No one cares.

Anyway, point is, after everything that has stuck to Trump and not lost him a single vote, what skeletons could Trump possibly want to keep hidden in his (presumably vast and homogeneous) closet?

embarrassing things like how he makes less than $500,000 per year as a freaking multibillionaire.

[Novus America]

Nixon and LBJ. Both took offense more often and easily than they should. LBJ was more Trump like in that he could be loud and vulgar and actually physically threatened people. Nixon was secretive and would plot some scheme rather than publicly blowing up.

LBJ also didn't like being in Kennedy's shadow.

True. He was not a nice person at all, and Trump like in several ways. Though very different in others.

Some even claim he had Kennedy killed but of course that is not verified and the only "evidence" offered circumstantial. It is still possible but not at all proven and seems implausible. Not that he would be morally above it but that he would take the risk, succeed and not get caught.

[Lady Scylla]

The live commentary is actually providing the opportunity to examine the irrational hate for Trump in real time.

You're going to need a bigger horse, and a smaller stable.

[Gauthier]

Normal people ignore or shrug off allegations if they're likely to be bullshit. Trump comes off as if he's desperately hoping nobody realizes they're true.

Which raises the question: What could Trump possibly be hiding at this point? What could he think he needs to keep secret? Because so far, nothing has stuck.

Well, I guess everything has stuck, but nothing seemed to matter. I mean, I think even Trump's supporters don't deny much that's been said about Trump. So I guess it's less water off a duck's back and more filth off a pig's. It sticks. Everyone knows about it. No one cares.

Anyway, point is, after everything that has stuck to Trump and not lost him a single vote, what skeletons could Trump possibly want to keep hidden in his (presumably vast and homogeneous) closet?

That he's not rich like he's been braying and that the Russians have him by the wallet and the balls.

[Lady Scylla]

LBJ also didn't like being in Kennedy's shadow.

True. He was not a nice person. Some even claim he had Kennedy killed but of course that is not verified and the only "evidence" offered circumstantial. It is still possible but not at all proven and seems somewhat implausible. Not that he would be morally above it but that he would take the risk, succeed and not get caught.

Well, we have seen Nixon's sabotage of the Vietnam peace deal. Being the President, or even VP means having access to quite a bit of resources no-one else has.

[Hittanryan]

The live commentary is actually providing the opportunity to examine the irrational hate for Trump in real time.

Why is it irrational to hate an asshole con artist?

[Lady Scylla]

The live commentary is actually providing the opportunity to examine the irrational hate for Trump in real time.

Why is it irrational to hate an asshole con artist?

Don't take the bait.

[Gauthier]

Why is it irrational to hate an asshole con artist?

Don't take the bait.

It'll be interesting to see if he still supports Trump near the end of the term or if he's backpeddling the Tour de France like many will be.

[Novus America]

Trump on tax returns: "I won, No one cares."

Welp is there anything we can do to get it?

Hm. Could file a collective lawsuit.

On what legal grounds? Tax returns are protected from being involuntarily revealed by the government by law. They are protected government records, and not subject to FOIA.

You could get them in a lawsuit but you need actual standing and grounds to file the suit in the first place. Like he signed a contract with you and they are relevant to proving something about it.

[Ashmoria]

it will be very interesting to see the analysis of the non-blind trust that trump is putting his assets into.

[Lady Scylla]

Hm. Could file a collective lawsuit.

On what legal grounds? Tax returns are protect from being revealed by the government by law. They are protected government records, and not subject to FOIA.

Yeah, it'd probably get thrown out. Though, if you could argue it from a general concern over the ethical obligations of his tenure while in office, then it might go somewhere. Optionally, you could create a petition and try to pressure the release of them.

[Ifreann]

Trump on tax returns: "I won, No one cares."

Welp is there anything we can do to get it?

Hm. Could file a collective lawsuit.

You'd never get a lawyer to take that case, much less a judge who'd let it go anywhere.

[Opfornia]

Don't take the bait.

It'll be interesting to see if he still supports Trump near the end of the term or if he's backpeddling the Tour de France like many will be.

Can you predict the future? Who did you think was going to win the election? I didn't think Trump could.

[Gauthier]

Trump vowing to donate foreign profits from his hotels to the Treasury.

Like how he vowed to donate to veterans' groups?

[Lady Scylla]

Hm. Could file a collective lawsuit.

You'd never get a lawyer to take that case, much less a judge who'd let it go anywhere.

Most likely. Especially since it could open up a dangerous precedent.

[Ashmoria]

Trump vowing to donate foreign profits from his hotels to the Treasury.

Like how he vowed to donate to veterans' groups?

his contract on that hotel doesn't allow him to own it while he is in office. donating "profits" is irrelevant.

[Novus America]

On what legal grounds? Tax returns are protect from being revealed by the government by law. They are protected government records, and not subject to FOIA.

Yeah, it'd probably get thrown out. Though, if you could argue it from a general concern over the ethical obligations of his tenure while in office, then it might go somewhere. Optionally, you could create a petition and try to pressure the release of them.

You still have a problem with standing and grounds. You CAN get tax returns in legal discovery but it can be difficult. Most importantly you have to show you were specifically harmed by something he wrongfully or negligently did, and the tax returns are relevant to proving your case. And even then you could not reveal them outside of court and you could go to jail for doing so. Some in the government of course has access, but the general public does not.

To keep people honest the IRS keeps them from going public. General ethical concerns is not any valid legal grounds to get them. You need some law saying you have aright to get them. And know law I am aware of gives the general public that right.

[Gauthier]

Repeal and Replace in the same day.

Replace with what? The same old crap with pre-existing conditions and abrupt cancellations?

Oh and still trying to take credit for the Carrier racket.

[Ashmoria]

Repeal and Replace in the same day.

Replace with what? The same old crap with pre-existing conditions and abrupt cancellations?

Oh and still trying to take credit for the Carrier racket.

why does the plan have to be a freaking secret? HE WON HE CAN TELL ALL NOW

[Ashmoria]

geez Donald whats the PLAN for getting mexico to reimburse us for the wall? a mexico tax?

[Novus America]

Repeal and Replace in the same day.

Replace with what? The same old crap with pre-existing conditions and abrupt cancellations?

Oh and still trying to take credit for the Carrier racket.

The same old would just be repealing. Not replacing. But "repeal and replace" is not really his writing legislation works since codification. It is changing the code as you cannot delete the whole code, and even deleting whole sections, while ocassionally done is problematic. Codified laws are almost never fully repealed, just a new law passed the changes the code.

Think of it like editing a book ratther than writing a new one.

But it is a simplified explanation for people who do not understand how legislation is actually done.