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Do You Approve Of The Manner In Which Trump And His Team Are Handling The Transition?

Yes, absolutely
219
28%
Generally yes, but with some reservations that I'll post in the thread.
84
11%
Not sure/Neutral
98
13%
Generally no, but with some hopeful signs that I'll post in the thread
49
6%
Not at all
320
42%
 
Total votes : 770

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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:58 pm

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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:59 pm



And "it seems like this might have happened" =/= "this definitely happened".
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Postby Trumpostan » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:00 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
The EU yes, because they are our direct competitor and it would be good to see them gone. NATO as Trump mentioned, doesn't pay up like its supposed to. He also right that it has many problems.


If Europe can be intimidated by Russia.
They'd be scared shitless if we parked a Carrier Group in the english channel or the north sea.

Not like they can do shit about it.


And that is exactly what the Euros want us to do. Pick up the tab so they do not have to. One of the few things I sort of agree on with mr Trump is that the Euros aren't carrying their weight.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:01 pm

Trumpostan wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
If Europe can be intimidated by Russia.
They'd be scared shitless if we parked a Carrier Group in the english channel or the north sea.

Not like they can do shit about it.


And that is exactly what the Euros want us to do. Pick up the tab so they do not have to. One of the few things I sort of agree on with mr Trump is that the Euros aren't carrying their weight.


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Trumpostan
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Postby Trumpostan » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:02 pm

The East Marches wrote:


The EU yes, because they are our direct competitor and it would be good to see them gone. NATO as Trump mentioned, doesn't pay up like its supposed to. He also right that it has many problems.


Europe might actually be better off without the EU. Every single decision made there seems to be "not enough for half the countries, and too much for the other half". Too much compromise, and there are times when compromise is the worst possible thing (not always, but sometimes).
I do not support Donald J. Trump
Inverted Flag Law: US Code Title 4 Section 8 Paragraph (a): The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
The United States of America has been in a state of dire distress since November 8, 2016. Flying the flag upside down is not only our right, it is our duty!
Make Maine Massachusetts again!

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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:03 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Meeting with someone =/= agreeing with them on everything you know.


And "it seems like this might have happened" =/= "this definitely happened".


What are you trying to say? Sure Trump has advocated skepticism of global warming, my point was merely that you were incorrect to claim that meeting with a person means agreeing with them on everything, or a change of policy.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Balkenreich
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:04 pm

Trumpostan wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
If Europe can be intimidated by Russia.
They'd be scared shitless if we parked a Carrier Group in the english channel or the north sea.

Not like they can do shit about it.


And that is exactly what the Euros want us to do. Pick up the tab so they do not have to. One of the few things I sort of agree on with mr Trump is that the Euros aren't carrying their weight.


Nah nah nah, That carrier group would have orders to fire upon any Euro Naval or aircraft that Looks at the Carrier's funny.
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Vassenor
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:04 pm

Novus America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And "it seems like this might have happened" =/= "this definitely happened".


What are you trying to say? Sure Trump has advocated skepticism of global warming, my point was merely that you were incorrect to claim that meeting with a person means agreeing with them on everything, or a change of policy.


I said it could suggest that. Not that it definitely meant that.
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:07 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Trumpostan wrote:
And that is exactly what the Euros want us to do. Pick up the tab so they do not have to. One of the few things I sort of agree on with mr Trump is that the Euros aren't carrying their weight.


Estonia is!


U.S., U.K., Poland, Greece and Estonia. Maybe NATO should be just those five for now.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Frenequesta » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:08 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Novus America wrote:
What are you trying to say? Sure Trump has advocated skepticism of global warming, my point was merely that you were incorrect to claim that meeting with a person means agreeing with them on everything, or a change of policy.


I said it could suggest that. Not that it definitely meant that.

I'm struggling to figure out what was actually newsworthy in that article. It admitted that it wasn't clear the guy was going to get a post, and the reason for the visit wasn't entirely clear.
I’m mostly here for... something to do, I suppose.

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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:08 pm

Trumpostan wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
The EU yes, because they are our direct competitor and it would be good to see them gone. NATO as Trump mentioned, doesn't pay up like its supposed to. He also right that it has many problems.


Europe might actually be better off without the EU. Every single decision made there seems to be "not enough for half the countries, and too much for the other half". Too much compromise, and there are times when compromise is the worst possible thing (not always, but sometimes).


At the very least the EU is going to have to reform, to keep from falling apart.
___|_|___ _|__*__|_

Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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The United Colonies of Earth
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:10 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Trumpostan wrote:
And that is exactly what the Euros want us to do. Pick up the tab so they do not have to. One of the few things I sort of agree on with mr Trump is that the Euros aren't carrying their weight.


Nah nah nah, That carrier group would have orders to fire upon any Euro Naval or aircraft that Looks at the Carrier's funny.

They would just dismantle their militaries and let us keep doing all the work :p
Novus America wrote:
Trumpostan wrote:
Europe might actually be better off without the EU. Every single decision made there seems to be "not enough for half the countries, and too much for the other half". Too much compromise, and there are times when compromise is the worst possible thing (not always, but sometimes).


At the very least the EU is going to have to reform, to keep from falling apart.
I agree, but what would those reforms consist of?
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to represent the interests of humankind to the other governments of the Galaxy;
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Balkenreich
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:12 pm

Novus America wrote:
Trumpostan wrote:
Europe might actually be better off without the EU. Every single decision made there seems to be "not enough for half the countries, and too much for the other half". Too much compromise, and there are times when compromise is the worst possible thing (not always, but sometimes).


At the very least the EU is going to have to reform, to keep from falling apart.


Oh no.

Europe always needs a devastating conflict before it rights itself.
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:14 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
Nah nah nah, That carrier group would have orders to fire upon any Euro Naval or aircraft that Looks at the Carrier's funny.

They would just dismantle their militaries and let us keep doing all the work :p
Novus America wrote:
At the very least the EU is going to have to reform, to keep from falling apart.
I agree, but what would those reforms consist of?


More workable, more accountable system of government, the current EU system is a mess. Less red tape for the sake of red tape. Less overbearing and micromanaging, more a lose association focused on a few issues. Something like the 10th amendment, but with more teeth.
Possibly have the EU be a lose association of several, smaller organizations. Say separate Nordic, Eastern European, Southern European, Central unions, with the EU a overarching coordinator, but most things delegated to lower levels.

Just some thoughts. But that is their problem, not ours.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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The United Colonies of Earth
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:14 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Novus America wrote:
At the very least the EU is going to have to reform, to keep from falling apart.


Oh no.

Europe always needs a devastating conflict before it rights itself.

We'll reform the Union into a Russian-killing death machine's logistical support network! :p
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to bring about the settlement of all planets not yet inhabited by a sapient species within this Galaxy and Universe by the Human Race, or all members of the species Homo sapiens;
to ensure the observation and protection of the rights of all human beings;
to defend humankind from invasion, catastrophe, fraud and violence;
to represent the interests of humankind to the other governments of the Galaxy;
to facilitate the perpetuation of the unity of human civilization and infrastructure between otherwise self-governing colonies;
and to promote technological advancement and scientific discovery for the perpetuation and expansion of the unity and empowerment of all human beings.
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:15 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
Oh no.

Europe always needs a devastating conflict before it rights itself.

We'll reform the Union into a Russian-killing death machine's logistical support network! :p


Nah nah nah.

More like Joint Russo-American-Polish-Anglo occupation zone.

Hey if the fucking Czechs want in on this shit too.

Get serbia.

Fuck Nato, We need a new alliance.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:19 pm

Novus America wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:They would just dismantle their militaries and let us keep doing all the work :p
I agree, but what would those reforms consist of?


More workable, more accountable system of government, the current EU system is a mess. Less red tape for the sake of red tape. Less overbearing and micromanaging, more a lose association focused on a few issues. Something equivalent to the 10th amendment, but with more teeth.

Just some thoughts. But that is their problem, not ours.

It seems to be the only way to appease the more sovereigntist groups in the Union.
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to ensure the observation and protection of the rights of all human beings;
to defend humankind from invasion, catastrophe, fraud and violence;
to represent the interests of humankind to the other governments of the Galaxy;
to facilitate the perpetuation of the unity of human civilization and infrastructure between otherwise self-governing colonies;
and to promote technological advancement and scientific discovery for the perpetuation and expansion of the unity and empowerment of all human beings.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:34 pm

Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?

Totally unfunny one sided show SNL gets boring unfunny Alec Baldwin to ridicule my huge press conference!


NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:40 pm

Trick question, they're both Trump?
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The East Marches
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Postby The East Marches » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:40 pm

Galloism wrote:Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?

Totally unfunny one sided show SNL gets boring unfunny Alec Baldwin to ridicule my huge press conference!


NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!


Top one is yours. :^)
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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:43 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Galloism wrote:Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?





Top one is yours. :^)

I'll work on my delivery.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Blakk Metal
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:45 pm

Galloism wrote:Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?

Totally unfunny one sided show SNL gets boring unfunny Alec Baldwin to ridicule my huge press conference!


NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!

The latter

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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:51 pm

Galloism wrote:Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?

Totally unfunny one sided show SNL gets boring unfunny Alec Baldwin to ridicule my huge press conference!


NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!


The former!
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Postby Galloism » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:51 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Galloism wrote:Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?




The latter


The Rich Port wrote:
Galloism wrote:Now let's play a new game. Which is Donald Trump and which is me mocking Donald Trump?





The former!


I have no idea what these answers mean.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby The East Marches » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:54 pm

Galloism wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Top one is yours. :^)

I'll work on my delivery.


The sentence is too long. Trump is a fan of short sentences. That was the only give away.
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