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by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:04 am
Novus America wrote:Thermodolia wrote:That wall won't stop illegal immigration at all, as most of them come in from the airports and overstay their visas.
It will not stop all. But will stop some. But not really the point. Whether or not you think it is a good idea, walksxand fences along the border will be expanded.
by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:05 am
by Romalae » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:05 am
Minoa wrote:Those who can fight the bad things about populism, please do: I count on you.
For me, I can't because of my disability and my inability to cope in such environments: this is why I have contemplated either emigration or suicide (apologies for being brutally honest).
by Minoa » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:06 am
The Rich Port wrote:Minoa wrote:Chavez was to some extend lucky due to the high oil prices, although I didn't agree with his excessive takeovers of the media because for a good social democracy, one needs to allow open debate from all sides (apart from those that promote racial hatred, which is understandable since we’re all human beings).
... Did you just compare Hugo Chavez favorably to Donald Trump?
... Yeah, no, sounds about right. I'm just saying. Never thought about it that way before.
by Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:07 am
by Lady Scylla » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:07 am
by Ashmoria » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:08 am
Minoa wrote:Lazarus Happy Insurance Corp wrote:Protest. I respect and admire your courage. I even hope you win.Novus America wrote:And sure protest if you wish. As long as peacefully. Just it will not change the situation. Sure it can have use in certain cases. But will not be effective here.
Those who can fight the bad things about populism, please do: I count on you.
For me, I can't because of my disability and my inability to cope in such environments: this is why I have contemplated either emigration or suicide (apologies for being brutally honest).
by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:09 am
The Rich Port wrote:Novus America wrote:It will not stop all. But will stop some. But not really the point. Whether or not you think it is a good idea, walksxand fences along the border will be expanded.
Whether it is, at all, a good idea.
Also, I doubt it. I think even Trump's cabinet and the almost-all-Republican senate is already sick of Trump's shit and will not be passing anything regarding his more ridiculous measures.
by Minoa » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:09 am
Ashmoria wrote:Minoa wrote:
Those who can fight the bad things about populism, please do: I count on you.
For me, I can't because of my disability and my inability to cope in such environments: this is why I have contemplated either emigration or suicide (apologies for being brutally honest).
you should still send a message to the republican elite telling them how the measures they intend to enact will hurt you. the more people who do that the more they might start thinking of the effect these things might have, even if its only politically.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:11 am
by Ashmoria » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:12 am
Minoa wrote:Ashmoria wrote:you should still send a message to the republican elite telling them how the measures they intend to enact will hurt you. the more people who do that the more they might start thinking of the effect these things might have, even if its only politically.
In my case, it’s the Brexit and the IPA. Privacy International is taking up on the IPA case.
by Novus America » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:12 am
The Rich Port wrote:Novus America wrote:It will not stop all. But will stop some. But not really the point. Whether or not you think it is a good idea, walksxand fences along the border will be expanded.
Whether it is, at all, a good idea.
Also, I doubt it. I think even Trump's cabinet and the almost-all-Republican senate is already sick of Trump's shit and will not be passing anything regarding his more ridiculous measures.
by Arlenton » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:14 am
by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:16 am
Arlenton wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:If he was running for president, why not just say it?
He seems to be taking baby steps. Did Jeb Bush/Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz/Marco Rubio/Rand Paul/etc announce in 2013? No, but they began travelling around more, doing stunts, and grabbing attention.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:16 am
Novus America wrote:
The Republicans won, and will implement their policies as the have every right and power to do.
You have every right to protest. But it will not change their minds. They do not really care what you think. Most people will simply wait and see if the economy improves anyways, which is what they care about the most.
by Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:16 am
Arlenton wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:If he was running for president, why not just say it?
He seems to be taking baby steps. Did Jeb Bush/Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz/Marco Rubio/Rand Paul/etc announce in 2013? No, but they began travelling around more, doing stunts, and grabbing attention.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:18 am
Arlenton wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:If he was running for president, why not just say it?
He seems to be taking baby steps. Did Jeb Bush/Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz/Marco Rubio/Rand Paul/etc announce in 2013? No, but they began travelling around more, doing stunts, and grabbing attention.
by Novus America » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:18 am
Thermodolia wrote:Novus America wrote:
It will not stop all. But will stop some. But not really the point. Whether or not you think it is a good idea, walksxand fences along the border will be expanded.
I'm not so sure if the wall will be built. I mean the W Bush fence still isn't finished. I think a small portion maybe a mile or two will be built an Trump will make a big scene about it but I think the rest of it will never see the light of day
by Arlenton » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:19 am
Balkenreich wrote:Arlenton wrote:He seems to be taking baby steps. Did Jeb Bush/Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz/Marco Rubio/Rand Paul/etc announce in 2013? No, but they began travelling around more, doing stunts, and grabbing attention.
>Zucc 2020
Yea, id unironically vote for trump if that dickhead is the best the democrats can come up with.
by Balkenreich » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:20 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:21 am
Novus America wrote:Thermodolia wrote:I'm not so sure if the wall will be built. I mean the W Bush fence still isn't finished. I think a small portion maybe a mile or two will be built an Trump will make a big scene about it but I think the rest of it will never see the light of day
Well an actual wall the entire border will not be built of course. Something even Trump acknowledged. But existing walls and fences will be improved and expanded.
Build the wall is a Twitter meme, not an actual policy. The actual policy will be different than what some picture "build the wall" to mean, sure.
by Arlenton » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:21 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Arlenton wrote:He seems to be taking baby steps. Did Jeb Bush/Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz/Marco Rubio/Rand Paul/etc announce in 2013? No, but they began travelling around more, doing stunts, and grabbing attention.
Hillary was going to run anyway, poor example.
But, if so then,he has the right to.
If his policies are good, then I will support him.
If he wins DNC, I will support him.
If he has a chance at beating Trump in 2020, I will support him.
by Novus America » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:21 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Arlenton wrote:He seems to be taking baby steps. Did Jeb Bush/Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz/Marco Rubio/Rand Paul/etc announce in 2013? No, but they began travelling around more, doing stunts, and grabbing attention.
Hillary was going to run anyway, poor example.
But, if so then,he has the right to.
If his policies are good, then I will support him.
If he wins DNC, I will support him.
If he has a chance at beating Trump in 2020, I will support him.
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